Everything you say here is true and I completely agree. Not sure what it was in my post that gave you a different impression, or what you disagreed with.
BREAKING: Blume Expelled - Kicked out of school
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Everything you say here is true and I completely agree. Not sure what it was in my post that gave you a different impression, or what you disagreed with.
So when my sons friends got charged with poss alcohol under age off school grounds and the school suspended them for a 3rd of the season before even going to any type of court hearing that was was wrong? Because technically that’s still an open case as they were charged criminally but not yet convicted or plead guilty to charges.
Once an incident happens and the schools find out they don’t have to wait until a conviction or case to be closed to act on it.
Once again the schools don’t have to wait to act on discipline on the court outcome. Once they are charged the schools can take action on their end. Heck they don’t even have to be charged with something for the school to enforce school discipline if student code of conduct is broken .
You’re fighting a losing argument here
Cardsfan you seem to know it all. Good for you. I have nothing left to say on the subject. Enjoy your evening.
Well I certainly do know enough in this matter.
Other things in life not so much.
If you say so.
Respectfully, we aren’t going to reach an agreement. Time to move on.
Prove all of us wrong then that are telling you the same thing. Not intending to argue this but you just are somewhat misinformed.
If my kid was caught drinking and got suspended, I would probably not say anything or complain. However, if the father said he would sue the school because they were not following the letter of the law, then maybe the school would then hesitate to hand out a punishment or wait until a verdict was reached. I think that is what blu guy is saying.
I am guessing that a school can get in trouble for handing out punishments to kids on rumors and I am guessing the legal definition of a rumor is quite different from our layman's definition. The threat of being sued by a person who will not listen to reason, tends to make people get their ducks in a row before taking any action.
As put above, it sounds like a choice between risk averse inaction and courageous action.
Sure, "fortunes favors the bold", but I think there's probably more to it.
Maybe there was some cost and convenience considerations that factored into the decision-making. A suit could mean more work for volunteer board members as well as uncapped unbudgeted costs for the school district. The school district board members have a fiscal responsibility to use the district’s funds in all students' best interest.
This isn’t rocket surgery and being charged with a crime isn’t a rumor. However, that is enough to get a person kicked out of high school sports in Iowa.
I do see your point in some of this. I’m not necessarily speaking of suspension from school. Although this warranted it. I was more speaking of breaking code of conduct and being withheld from competition for an extended period of time. With that being said I did look up Roland Story’s code of conduct and it is very very outdated and vague. From what I saw it did not spell out a pre determined length of time he must sit out. And also didn’t say that that they could withhold him for however long they want either. And you’re probably right that if the family was threatening to sue because of not having the code of conduct policy spelled out in detail then the school might of been legally advised to tread softly for the time being. But if that is the case with the Blume family threatening to sue in order to get their son back on the mat then shame on them for not properly disciplining their child on this matter. Guaranteed most families would be saying that extra curricular activities are a far distant second and getting this matter taken care of and your son help first. Doesn’t really set a good long term example for the kid in my opinion.
Priorities are a bit skewed in this case, maybe. Everyone loves a four timer.
When I was a kid, a bunch of us were accused of throwing eggs at teachers houses. (I went along once and threw two eggs.)
The school district was suspicious, but had no proof. We were told the case would be closed if we confessed. So we did. And then we were kicked out of school a day for every egg we threw and made ineligible for sports.
The district informed us no eggs were thrown the night I went along. They told me I’d thrown no eggs. And then they made me ineligible for sports for intent to throw eggs at a teachers house.
Other families got lawyers. My family made me take my punishment because they knew I’d really thrown two eggs at a teachers house that night. So I ran CC for a season to regain eligibility before wrestling season started.
The law was never involved. The acts happened off the school grounds and a kangaroo court decided our fate. I was deemed ineligible for sports for intent to throw eggs at a teacher’s house.
The school district was suspicious, but had no proof. We were told the case would be closed if we confessed. So we did. And then we were kicked out of school a day for every egg we threw and made ineligible for sports.
The district informed us no eggs were thrown the night I went along. They told me I’d thrown no eggs. And then they made me ineligible for sports for intent to throw eggs at a teachers house.
Other families got lawyers. My family made me take my punishment because they knew I’d really thrown two eggs at a teachers house that night. So I ran CC for a season to regain eligibility before wrestling season started.
The law was never involved. The acts happened off the school grounds and a kangaroo court decided our fate. I was deemed ineligible for sports for intent to throw eggs at a teacher’s house.
So you pretty much fell for the oldest investigative line in the book ("If you tell us the truth, what really happened, then things will workout better for you."). It's why the playbook for some is deny, deny, deny when off the record, and then take the 5th once on it.
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How did the kids whose families got lawyers come out of the whole thing?
I never heard. So nothing probably came of it. But I remember news crews from Sioux City drove up to interview aggrieved parties after decision to punish based on confessions based on promises not kept.
Were these people you went to school with? And you don’t know what their punishment/lack of was? Hmmmm, seems odd
I don’t know what their lawyers accomplished. I don’t know if they accomplished anything. It was a long time back. Lol
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Did anyone at Iowa stand up for the victim? Did Brands stand up for the victim?
The victim was forced between changing schools or being forced to face his abusers on a daily basis. That doesn’t sound like a school district attempting to keep a victim feeling safe.
And would YOU like to be the kid some blame for keeping a potential four timer from school glory?
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Why in the world would the University of Iowa or Brands get involved in this situation? Just seems like an extremely odd and maybe a bit of a stupid thing to ask.
Carjackers deserve to be shot multiple times.
I agree. I'm talking about the ones going around throwing a victory party afterward like they just won the super bowl
I'm gonna take some heat for this but I don't really care.
It's actually too bad for both parties. Yes I actually said BOTH.
Let's face it, hazing has been around for a long time.
Blume might have sharpened someone else's pencil when he was a freshman and it happens every year.
Does that make it right? Of course NOT. But at the time it seemed like harmless fun.
It's definitely good that it came out because I'm sure this has opened some eyes on hazing and will hopefully end or at least diminish some.
Blast away if you want.
LOL
It's actually too bad for both parties. Yes I actually said BOTH.
Let's face it, hazing has been around for a long time.
Blume might have sharpened someone else's pencil when he was a freshman and it happens every year.
Does that make it right? Of course NOT. But at the time it seemed like harmless fun.
It's definitely good that it came out because I'm sure this has opened some eyes on hazing and will hopefully end or at least diminish some.
Blast away if you want.
LOL
There's gotta be a list someone can put you on.
Mr. Machine, why don't you take a seat over here...
Keep it too a minimum though, those self defense rounds are expensive so make your shots count.
Car jackers should get shot, armed robbery is a serious offense and justifies lethal self defense.
