3rd and 8 from their own 8.
7 step drop and throw.
It’s called trust. I wish we would develop some this offseason
7 step drop and throw.
It’s called trust. I wish we would develop some this offseason
Brian - do you see how UGA trusts it’s FR-QB
- Thread starter HawkNole09
- Start date
Wow ... not a fan of this post. Do you have some examples?
What the fvck? They've run on third and long multiple times tonight. Our fans would be furious if he had called this game so far. I hate a lot of our fans, sigh.
Are you kidding me? BF KF neither would work the center of the field when we’re inside our own 20. Only boundary throws, PA rollout, or plays angling toward the sideline, where an overthrow isn’t dangerous.
I'll trust Brian's assessment of Stanley's grasp of the game and his confidence level. Georgia QB came from a much higher pressure high school environment where he threw the ball alot more than Stanley. The offensive plan was to protect Stanley this year and rightfully so. They will develop more trust in him. Stanley has to take his own strides toward more confidence in his abilities and those of his teammates as well.
A 7 step drop woulda had Stanley on his ass 90% of the time
Lets not also forget the fact that Georgia might have WR's with enough speed to actually get separation.
3rd and long .....and they run the ball up the middle. Why do the "dumb" so called Iowa fans claim Kirk is the only Coach in the country that does this?? These people that get pissed at Kirk ans company should really watch more football!
What about Saban--- 1st half no offense, so he makes a QB change. KF/BF it's against their DNA to pull a QB in a season, let alone in a game.
Wildcat, direct snap to a RB/or dual threat QB....no, too radical for Iowa, good enough for National Title competitors though.
Wildcat, direct snap to a RB/or dual threat QB....no, too radical for Iowa, good enough for National Title competitors though.
That's the difference between our offense and theirs on display: WRs who can create separation and a 5* QB.
I would guess if Iowa had a QB of that caliber on the bench they may try the same thing.......oops ....there ya go! Freshmen QB throws interception ...maybe that why it's not a good idea??
How convenient of you to not mention a thing about the escape he just made, 5-6 on a Touchdown Drive to get them back in the game. Guess that didn't count.
Exactly. Not every rookie QB can play at a high level. I'm not watching this game, but I saw the kid play against Oklahoma and he was impressive. Stanley still has a lot of things to work out before he can handle every game situation. He'll progress, hopefully, and as he does he'll be given more responsibility. He didn't play like he did against Iowa State and Ohio State in every game. He made some poor reads at times, took too long to make reads at other times, seemed flushed and rattled at other times, was wildly inconsistent with the deep ball (which created a lot of third and long situations), held the ball too long a lot, and had difficulty "feeling" the pocket and the pressure around him. Are people expecting every Iowa QB to be Chuck Long or, hell, Tom Brady?
In addition, how about the route running and drops of a lot of wide receivers last year. This isn't all on BF. Plus, it was his first year as coordinator playing with thin talent at key positions, guys trying to learn a new system or at least new wrinkles in a new system that also had new language. BF called way more creative games than Greg Davis ever did and sometimes it hurt the team because the guys weren't capable of executing a complex offensive game plan. Give them time to gel. I was frustrated as anyone that they weren't further along in their development, coaches and players, but with time to reflect it's just unreasonable to think that these guys are going to just "get it" straight out of the gate.
Plus, most of the players don't have the same level of talent and ability as the players on a team like Georgia. People can say, "Oh, well then the recruiting is bad." But it's going to be difficult to compete to recruit kids away from the southeast against Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, Florida State, Miami, etc., etc., etc., partially due to location and partially due to tradition/reputation. It's just not realistic. That's not to say Iowa can't improve in all those areas, but expecting an explosion of improvement in all areas in one year is unrealistic.
Yeah, but both of their QBs are 5* guys who were rated higher than most other 5* QBs. There aren't a lot of teams with a 5* starter and a 5* backup waiting on the bench. We're comparing Iowa to Alabama and Georgia now???
Watching this Georgia OC I think if he called this type of game for the Hawks this board would melt down. All he's done is run on first two downs and half the time throw on 3rd. The other half would run on third. Talent always makes the OC look good.
Agreed ....totally .....some of us don't understand this! We just want to complain!
per rivals......42 4/5* players in GA this year.
Ouch. All seniors? That's insane. But when you look at the number of 5* guys that Bama and the like get each year (10 for Bama, 6 for Georgia, 7 for Ohio State, and so on), there aren't many left over for anyone else. We have four four stars lined up in the 2018 class which is more than Iowa's had in a single class since probably the late 2000s. Late 2000s or early 2010s was the last time Iowa had a recruiting class in the top 40 of the country. If you look at recruiting rankings from 2014 to now it's obvious that Iowa's improving. They had 3 classes in a row with classes ranked in the mid-50s. Last year was low 40s and this year is projecting toward right around forty (right now 37th). We'll see what happens.
Yeah, not good idea. Zero points in 1st half, 21 in 2nd half with backup QB. Why not shake things up?
Freshman QB comes in cold off the bench to lead his team to within a chip-shot field goal of a National Championship in regulation, then the kicker chokes. Yep, bad idea.................. LOL! (and I'm glad the kicker choked, as long as Alabama still loses)
A game like Wisconsin, since we weren't blocking and Stanley was a statue, having a QB that could evade the rush would have been worth a try. I don't understand why it takes an act of God to make a QB change at Iowa, even for half a game. Look at Beathard, severely injured and KF has him finish last year's bowl game.
Sure Saban is at a program with history, but he also is superior recruiting/manager.
Who does Iowa have on the bench that can evade Wisconsin's pass rush??? Yes. Saban is a stud, but nearly every coach from every program in the country is looking up at him in terms of coaching and, especially, recruiting. There are only a few teams that come close to attracting the talent to compete with Alabama and they are all major league blue blood schools.
If this was 2001 and there was a Brad Banks on the sideline waiting to play, I would agree with you. But Mansell was a true freshman and while he may be somewhat mobile, he didn't play at a big time program. He was a 3-star recruit and three-star guys often take a lot more practice time and/or experience to get up to a B10 playing level. I would have thrown Weigers into that game before Mansell because of his experience in the system, but Weigers wasn't a very mobile QB, either. The real problem besides Stanley against UW was the offensive line getting destroyed in terms of being manhandled, blitzes, and guys coming from places they couldn't see or apparently didn't expect. That was the best UW played all year.
They were fired up on D and, you're right, Stanley played scared. But a new QB in that game wouldn't have made much difference. I think Stanley got sacked eight times? He was under pressure every time he dropped back to throw, too. UW just had more talent, a great 3-4 scheme, and exceptional play calling. UW was 13-1 for a reason. Iowa was just not in their class in 2017. It wasn't just the QB, either. It was nearly everywhere on the field except for pass defense against UW. Run D was okay until late, but that's because the D was on the field so much of the game. Iowa did not have the talent or experience necessary to compete on offense, either starting or on the bench. It's that simple.
Great game. I hate Saban, but watching their true Frosh QB postgame, I can't help but be impressed by his humility and poise. Happy for him.
Alabama proved the doubters wrong. If you think Ohio State, or Wisconsin (LOL) would've played anywhere near their level in the playoffs, then I want some of what you're smoking.
Alabama proved the doubters wrong. If you think Ohio State, or Wisconsin (LOL) would've played anywhere near their level in the playoffs, then I want some of what you're smoking.
Oh St prob would’ve beat both of those teams. I’ve thought they were the best team all year. Still do. Well, maybe C Flo
I don't remember the Wildcat working particularly well for either team last night. Every time Georgia shifted into it, I saw the Bama safties coming right up to the box.
Similar threads
