Caitlin is UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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Without a doubt. If people think she’s a top pick for the WNBA, she ought to be able to handle a guy who will be playing in a rec. league next year.
I’ve got a good question to throw in here….why the hell does it matter? Why does it matter if you think she could play vs men? 1v1 vs JBo? Why the hell do you care?
I’m probably the youngest guy on here at 22, but I can tell you she is one of the best I’ve seen. Steph Curry is the only one bold enough to take the same shots she does. She’s a headliner for national player. She scored 116 points this week in 3 games. If she stays at this scoring pace for 4 years, she has a shot at breaking the ncaa women’s scoring record, all while leading the nation in assists each year.
I said yesterday, Caitlin is absolutely someone I’ll sit down and think about in 50 years at the end of my sports journalism career as one of the best I covered. She is a special basketball player. Done end of argument. There doesn’t need to be more.
I’m probably the youngest guy on here at 22, but I can tell you she is one of the best I’ve seen. Steph Curry is the only one bold enough to take the same shots she does. She’s a headliner for national player. She scored 116 points this week in 3 games. If she stays at this scoring pace for 4 years, she has a shot at breaking the ncaa women’s scoring record, all while leading the nation in assists each year.
I said yesterday, Caitlin is absolutely someone I’ll sit down and think about in 50 years at the end of my sports journalism career as one of the best I covered. She is a special basketball player. Done end of argument. There doesn’t need to be more.
Yeah, she just drained four 3s and got fouled on another attempt, and she was pretty open. It's a high percentage shot under the circumstances.
And consider this. Clark missed two free throws in the game, one of which was from the foul on her 3-point attempt. Had she made those 2, she would have brought Iowa all the way back at that moment. Iowa wouldn't have to foul on the next Michigan possession. At that time, O'Grady and Affolter were still running like gazelles on fast breaks, Michigan might not be able to get back to catch up with them and Clark's pass if they miss a shot.
The guys who show up and say “she could barely score on a guy, it’s a fact” make me laugh. Put your insecurities aside and just enjoy the show. She’s unbelievably talented and we get to watch her for TWO MORE YEARS. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
I will give you the smaller womens ball makes a difference. But no way is JBO faster that Clark.
Where exactly in this thread is the "she could barely score on a guy, it's a fact" statement made? And Kyle, you as a reporter should take the time to actually fact check it before "liking" it. All I see here that is negative towards her is the fact she is a women going against a man in the same physical contest. She is a multi-generational women's talent. Absolutely a phenomenal player. In a one on one match-up against JBo, it would not be close. That is all anyone with any common sense is saying.
Your own post, post #12, about playing 1-on-1 vs JBo and then again in post #30 about a decent high school boys player. Therefore, you should take your own advice about fact checking.
Umm - JBo is not a "guy" and once again, when you put something in quotation marks - it means exactly that is what was said. Nowhere was that exact quote said. Therefore - educate yourself on what it means to be accurate.
Guess I missed the story about JBo’s transition. You’re right another poster used quotes, but doesn’t take away from the fact you and another poster said she would barely score on JBo and wouldn’t score on a decent high school boy, respectively.
You're right - I did say that. And I put JBo in this form "guy" because he is being compared to walk on level talent when in fact he is a D-1 level player. While you're at it, why don't you quote my other posts about what kind of talent I believe Caitlin Clark is? You won't because it will spoil your argument. One person makes a stupid comment that she could not score against an average high school player and somehow she is being disparaged by so many. Just not happening.
Agreed, and I feel that ANY sort of critique is quickly jumped on as bashing or not appreciating what she does.
Unquestionably a legend and they aren't in some of the games they are without her. But at times it almost feels like she tries things that up the degree-of-difficulty just to see if she can, because the earlier one was successful so try it. The play you mention was spot on, when others were open for a chance at an open shot. No, they aren't within a few without her incredible play, but....
and again, not bashing, just saying
On some possessions after a made Michigan bucket they had 3 defenders of Clark to deny the inbounds pass…just insane.
AND MC was in early foul trouble and that crippled our inside game on both sides of the floor. Even when MC was out there she basically let everything get past her so she didn't pick up another foul. Trying to keep Naz off the boards is a tall rask.....
Hell after she made three of those logo three pointers they were putting THREE players on her in the backcourt to force Iowa to throw it in to ANYBODY but her! Bluder responded by having her throw the ball in, so she could come in and get the return pass. It was crazy when they had three players on her and two players left to guard the other four Iowa woman....
what's even crazier is that SHE MANAGED TO SCORE WITH 3 PLAYERS GUARDING HER!!!Hell after she made three of those logo three pointers they were putting THREE players on her in the backcourt to force Iowa to throw it in to ANYBODY but her! Bluder responded by having her throw the ball in, so she could come in and get the return pass. It was crazy when they had three players on her and two players left to guard the other four Iowa woman....
“Couldn’t compete on a major men’s team. Just being real”
“JBo wins 10-3. Keep you money in your pocket”
“Put a decent HS boys player on her and she doesn’t score”
But let’s not get hung up on the exact wording. My point still stands that whenever a woman is exceptionally good at something there are guys who feel like it’s necessary to step up and defend men, and point out that she isn’t as good as a man. Why? Why is it so necessary to point that out and argue about it? It’s like, “yeah, we know she’s good FOR A GIRL. She could never compete with a MAN.” Take a step back and listen to yourselves and ask if that’s really who you want to be. If it is, then that’s your choice and we can move on.
Nevermind that this was the first stone thrown...
"I’d take her over JBo 9 days a week & quadruple on Sundays!"
I think she's one hell of a basketball player. In this day and age of female sports being compromised by non-XX athletes, I think it's important to maintain the distinction in levels of competition in order to maintain the integrity of female athletics.
Hopefully Bluder can utilize the publicity to surround CC with ELITE talent from the high school ranks for Clark's junior and senior season.
And get that 8th grader from Johnston, too.
And get that 8th grader from Johnston, too.
It's sad that on this board, discussing how great Caitlin is, everything has to turn into an argument.
While the comment is largely true, I don’t understand the need for some to run in here and say that a good HS boys player would shut her down. In direct response to the JBo comment earlier, fine, but I see this with way too much regularity and it’s just a clear, direct shot to belittle her accomplishments. She plays the sport she plays at the level she plays and she is one of the best in recent memory (the best at Iowa that I can recall). Greatness anywhere is special and should be enjoyed for as long as it lasts.
Read my other posts and then tell me if I don't appreciate her talents. She couldn't compete on a major men's D-1 team and she would get destroyed by JBo 1:1. Could she compete on a lower level D-1 team, yes I think she probably could, at least offensively. And I said 10-2. I agree the 3rd comment is absurd. Yes, exact wording matters when you are trying to imply something was said when it really wasn't.
A woman can compete against a man any time she wants. I'm all for it. Just don't tell me in the sport of basketball that it's equal. It's not. I never once said she couldn't compete against a man. I was a decent player and she would beat my ass. I am comparing her to a D-1 men's player. Nothing more, nothing less. If you honestly think she could beat a high level D-1 scholarship player 1:1, you are delusional.
And since you appear to want to make this some sort of equality issue - why do all of the transgender competitors go in one direction? Hmmm? Physical difference means something in a sport as physical as basketball.
I don’t understand why you took this as all being directed only at you, it wasn’t. Anyway, let’s agree that she’s great and move on.
What makes you think a discussion about Caitlin is any different from any other thread? They all go downhill pretty fast.
Because when I post multiple times how great I think she is and someone pulls my wording out of context to try and make a point, I take some degree of offense. All I ever really said negatively towards her, and it's really hardly a negative, is she would not be able to beat JBo 1:1. I have a friend who played at UNI many years ago. I asked him this same question. He said he in fact played the top UNI women's player 1:1 to 20. Spotted her 19 points and gave her the ball to start. She lost 21-19. Try googling Brittany Griner saying she could beat Boogie Cousins 1:1. Basketball is just not a sport where competition is equal.
I don't care if old white men want to unfavorably compare her to JBo.
I'll compare her to better players. She's phenomenal. One of the greatest Hawkeyes in any sport, and one of the greatest athletes playing sports today.
Curry has had all-star talent surrounding him for most of his time at GS, and a few years he had two other MVPs. Clark is the sole big-time star on this team and she's double and sometimes triple teamed, and still making those shots. Reminds me of LeBron in his first stint with the seriously undertalented Cavs when he was double and tripled all the time. Her recent games look a lot like a 22-year-old Lebron versus the entire Pistons defense, when he scored the final 25 points of the game, 48 total.
I'll compare her to better players. She's phenomenal. One of the greatest Hawkeyes in any sport, and one of the greatest athletes playing sports today.
Curry has had all-star talent surrounding him for most of his time at GS, and a few years he had two other MVPs. Clark is the sole big-time star on this team and she's double and sometimes triple teamed, and still making those shots. Reminds me of LeBron in his first stint with the seriously undertalented Cavs when he was double and tripled all the time. Her recent games look a lot like a 22-year-old Lebron versus the entire Pistons defense, when he scored the final 25 points of the game, 48 total.
What the hell are you talking about? Nobody is comparing her to JBo. Nobody (white/black/brown/green/etc) or whatever color you seem to want to bring into this conversation, with any basketball intelligence is saying JBo has her skill set. What I did say is she could not beat JBo 1:1. Argue with any of that if you want. If you think she can, good for you and go back to your video game.
When she leaves she will be considered the greatest Iowa Hawkeye hooper of all time. I am not a guy that seeks out women's basketball games to watch, she makes me, and I am guessing thousands of others want to do just that...she is amazing.
But can she make behind the back passes?
She's WAY better then just the best at Iowa in memory. She's one of the best womens college players ever. There's a reason she was the #1 rated girl in the nation as a soph in high school. Iowa is fortunate that she chose the lady hawks. She had two older girl cousins who starred at Dowling as well, and CC looked up to them as role models. One is an assistant at Iowa State I believe, so she could have been wearing those Ronald Macdonald colors..
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I would tend to agree with that, but I can’t speak to a lot of women’s hoops, as I usually just follow Iowa. She certainly seems to have elite talent and literally all the experts have been raving about her since day 1.
Posters on here love to discount our players for some reason. I don't get it, especially in Caitlin's case.
