No longer transferring to Michigan. Either one of two things happened.
Check bounced
OR
Couldn't get in academically.
Check bounced
OR
Couldn't get in academically.
Caleb Love
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Hunter Dickinson made it pretty clear he didn't think he was getting paid enough at Michigan.
And then when it came down to Kentucky (no NIL money guarantees) or Kansas (they did make NIL money guarantees), he picked the sure thing, Kansas.
Idk, Love picked them after all of the bidding. So who knows. Wonder if Chapel Hill bridge is burnt.
Guess those UNCheat fake classes weren’t accepted for transfer.
Note that Hunter Dickinson was complaining about getting less than $100,000/year at Michigan
He's getting more at Kansas and it's all guaranteed
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I have children, dogs, and a mortgage. You have no responsibility but playing around with a ball. There is no comparison.
Yep. Different times when it comes to the dynamic between fans and college players for sure......
Agree completely, but it's always been that way with how professional athletes are out of touch with the average fan. That's what these upper-level players are now: professional.
His point is a good one, I think it's crap that he did what he did, but I also can't fault him for doing what he did....as much I would like to be able to.
Hate the system, not those who use it.
All NIL has done is open the doors to what some programs had been doing for decades. Those programs still have an edge in experience and stockpiled NIL monies as far as I’m concerned so it’ll take time for the rest to catch up. If that’s possible.
Hunter wasn’t going to a second tier program offering more money. It’ll be the same name schools cherry picking who they want now that the money doesn’t need to be hidden. NIL sucks.
Some of these guys have moms, dads, kids, baby mamas, and other entourages already. Supposed friends who want a piece of them. They think everyone has won the lottery.
Poor baby. Given UM's season, maybe he should have gotten a pay cut? (I realize it has more to do with their coaching than Hunter's performance)
Players are starting to act and sound like employees. They are looking at other employers (schools) who are willing to play more for their services.
People bitched about Iowa being slow in getting collectives up and running; now we have SWARM & it did wonders for Iowa football but it's clear there is not much money left over for men's basketball.
And how bad must Michigan's collectives be when they can't hold on to their star players?
I don't blame Hunter Dickinson. He's incredibly valuable in college basketball and won't make a ton of money after college because he's not really a NBA player. Michigan made over $20 million off of men's basketball.
Anybody who can do the same thing and increase their income from under 100k to around 1 million and doesn't do it is a lunatic IMO.
there needs to be a rule stating that these players be committed and enrolled in their new school BEFORE they can be contacted for these deals.
they also must show how much they were offered BY WHO and WHEN. this will slow things down
sorry but there needs to be more transparency involved.
no more 7 figures to hs SR's. doesn't matter what they do in HS all that matters is what they do in college.
they also must show how much they were offered BY WHO and WHEN. this will slow things down
sorry but there needs to be more transparency involved.
no more 7 figures to hs SR's. doesn't matter what they do in HS all that matters is what they do in college.
Where did you get that 20 million figure?
Is that net income on men's BB alone?
Now, will their net income on BB drop next season without HD?
Are their supporters of HD or the U. of Mich?
I would argue many college fans identify with the school more than individual players...Caitlyn Clark is the exception of course.
No shit. Hunter Dickinson or whatever complaining about only getting paid about $90K a year at Mich. He is actually unemployed, not working at a real job but making that kind of dough . He made an agreement to play at Mich but is ditching them for an extra 10%. Wow, this is ludicrous.
not sure he is just getting a extra 10 grand, I am willing to bet its far north of 100 grand. for this season.
I am curious what sorts of agreements are being signed with NIL. Is there a standard contract for a university, or across universities? Maybe universities are going to need to be legally tougher on these kids, who now don't have any sense of obligation. If I am shelling out six figure deals, I would expect the athlete to sign a binding agreement specifying what they owe the university in return for their "salary". I don't see anyway that most of this is not taxable income.
So what about if the so called collective or whatever they had at Texas A & M that didn’t supposedly uphold their end of the bargain because the team didn’t do as well as the crybaby fans wanted them to do?
I am talking about the agreement between each athlete and the university or NIL collective. Obviously, you can't specify wins and losses or even individual achievements, but showing up, giving effort, listening to coaches, and maybe even staying a specified number of years, could be contractually required to earn the agreed $$$.
Tell me you don't know how NIL works without telling me you don't know how NIL works.
It would be interesting to see what it took to get Cade McNamara, Erick All, Kaleb Brown, etc to sign with Iowa. All of the details are private, of course.
Does Michigan have more problems than Iowa?
* NIL -- players leaving because not getting paid enough
* NIL -- not enough money to attract transfers
* Admissions not letting transfers in
* Howard simply is not a good head coach
Greed could eventually lead to the downfall of college sports. There may come a day when it will collapse and the well will run dry. Anything is possible.
It's absolutely taxable income.
The requirements they can put on an athlete are few. What some of them have been doing in the SEC is if you're getting money from the Ol' Miss collective, they'll put stuff in it saying things like "The Athlete must live in Oxford, MS, to be eligible for funds from our collective". They can't put playing time, performance, stuff like that into their contracts so it has to be stuff around where they live. That's about as restrictive as they can get though.
Michigan generated $21.1 mil and had $10.7 mil in expenses. Profit of $10.4 mil, which was 3rd most in the B1G.
Iowa generated $14.6 mil and had $10.3 mil in expenses. Profit of $4.3 mil, which was 9th in the B1G.
https://www.sportico.com/business/c...finances-database-intercollegiate-1234646029/
I sort of like your first idea, but I don't think that's "policeable". And if a college is willing to throw 7-figures at a kid isn't that just business? If the kid ends up being a bust, that's the school's boosters problem/fault.
I'm with you completely that this is a disaster (not to put words in your mouth) in it's current form. It's going to take a LONG time to figure out the correct solution, and by the time they do, it'll likely be way too late.
the only hitch is that the school can't be involved with the money. the only ones that can pay out the money is oganization like the swarm or what ever they call themselves at each school.
or in Oregon's case a single donor footing the bill. or Miami who has their own billion dollar sugar daddy. if congress gets involved and decides to impose a income tax they will have to right down to the last penny where the monies came from. not even the SCOTUS can fight that.
With the same number of games played, is the difference in income from more seats in the building so more tickets? Or do they charge more per ticket. Or is it advertising revenue? Just wondering where the difference comes from.
I think what this shows is there will be very few, if any, multi sport power house universities. There is only so much coin to go around, so if you want to be a football school you pay football players, if you want to be a basketball school, you pay bb players. Most schools will not be able to afford both.
is there a potential Billion Dollar sugar daddy here in Iowa? as that would help in getting these top players from the portal or the HS ranks.
