California gonna California....

[The Tradition]

(CNN) — In a few years, you'll no longer be able to rely on hotels in California for those travel-size bottles of shampoo and lotion.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a bill Wednesday that bans hotels from supplying such bottles in an effort to reduce the number of plastic containers being thrown away by hotels and guests.

The bill, set to take effect in 2023, will apply to lodging establishments with more than 50 rooms.

Hotels with less than 50 rooms must stop using the tiny bottles by 2024.

This would not impact hospitals, nursing homes, residential retirement communities, prisons, jails or homeless shelters, according to the bill.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/shampoo-plastic-bottles-ban-trnd/index.html

Marriott is already moving to shower wall-mounted dispensers for body wash, shampoo and conditioner.

I can't imagine there's a way to give free mouthwash or skin lotion without little plastic bottles so you can kiss those freebies goodbye.

 

[BelemNole]

If by that you mean lead - yes, yes we will.

 

[Joes Place]

God Forbid they put in "dispensers" for your shampoo and soaps, right?



(You know....them things that exist in virtually EVERY bathroom at things like hotel public bathrooms, convention centers, offices, etc)

 

[TJ8869]

This could have huge ramifications for people who travel for work.

 

[Joes Place]

If by that you mean lead - yes, yes we will.

It'll end up being a cost-savings for most hotels, anyway. Sucks that Trad won't get any free, crappy shampoos anymore though.

 

[timinatoria]

Of all the things to bitch about California, this is pretty low on my list.

I spend about 100 nights a year in hotels. I like the shower dispensers. It should cut costs for the hotels from cheap bastards hoarding shampoo and lotion to take home.

 

[BelemNole]

This could have huge ramifications for people who travel for work.

Huge?

 

[The Tradition]

Of all the things to bitch about California, this is pretty low on my list.

I spend about 100 nights a year in hotels. I like the shower dispensers. It should cut costs for the hotels from cheap bastards hoarding shampoo and lotion to take home.

I take them and drop them in a collection box at our office. We donate all those little bottles and soaps to a local organization that helps homeless people.

 

[Fijimn]

Only someone who relies on mileage reimbursement as a large chunk of their take home pay would complain about this. Central Florida is going to central Florida

 

[Fijimn]

I take them and drop them in a collection box at our office. We donate all those little bottles and soaps to a local organization that helps homeless people.

So full of shit

 

[The Tradition]

So full of shit

Yeah, I made that up.

 

[pablow]

Must ban straws, must ban little plastic bottles, must ban . . .

 

[billanole]

Only someone who relies on mileage reimbursement as a large chunk of their take home pay would complain about this. Central Florida is going to central Florida

He still hasn’t recovered from the day that free matchbooks disappeared from restaurants, bars, hotels, etc...

 

[Joes Place]

He still hasn’t recovered from the day that free matchbooks disappeared from restaurants, bars, hotels, etc...

LMAO!!!

 

[The Tradition]

He still hasn’t recovered from the day that ashtrays disappeared from restaurants, bars, hotels, etc...

FIFY....

 

[billanole]

FIFY....

I still have one from the old Frisches Big Boy restaurant on Tennessee Street. That was my first public job.

 

[khael-hawk]

You know if we could figure out a way to reuse plastics, that would go a long way to solving the "problem."

 

[The Tradition]

God Forbid they put in "dispensers" for your shampoo and soaps, right?



(You know....them things that exist in virtually EVERY bathroom at things like hotel public bathrooms, convention centers, offices, etc)

I don't take a shower in any of those places...

 

[billanole]

You know if we could figure out a way to reuse plastics, that would go a long way to solving the "problem."

The market for plastic recycling has totally tanked, and the volume available is stunning.
Most people have no concept of how expensive it is to landfill, nor how bruising is the fight to site a new landfill or lay a full one to rest.
Get away from single use plastics. That is only a last generation or so phenomena that has played its course.

 

[The Tradition]

The market for plastic recycling has totally tanked, and the volume available is stunning.
Most people have no concept of how expensive it is to landfill, nor how bruising is the fight to site a new landfill or lay a full one to rest.
Get away from single use plastics. That is only a last generation or so phenomena that has played its course.

I'm seeing wooden coffee stir sticks at hotels more and more, instead of the plastic ones.

 

[khael-hawk]

The market for plastic recycling has totally tanked, and the volume available is stunning.
Most people have no concept of how expensive it is to landfill, nor how bruising is the fight to site a new landfill or lay a full one to rest.
Get away from single use plastics. That is only a last generation or so phenomena that has played its course.

What about single use glass and metals? And if single use plastics have played their course, why is virtually everything in a supermarket delivered in single use plastic, derived from recycled plastic?

 

[billanole]

I'm seeing wooden coffee stir sticks at hotels more and more, instead of the plastic ones.

Yep, and paper straws are making a comeback.

 

[brawnoverbrains]

If by that you mean lead - yes, yes we will.

You certainly lead in the amount of human shit you have to step over to get into the coffee shop. And the amount of needles on the sidewalk.

 

[billanole]

What about single use glass and metals?

The metal should go to a salvage yard. Glass is another commodity that has a boom, bust price as a recycled product. At least it not not a toxin and is not ingested by marine life.
Some landfills use it as the daily cover requirement that is supposed keep down vermin and wind blown trash. Other times it is used in place of gravel for road projects.
BTW, refillable milk bottles has become a thing again in some places.

 

[Joes Place]

I'm seeing wooden coffee stir sticks at hotels more and more, instead of the plastic ones.

FUNFACT: Bamboo is a 100% sustainable wood resource for stirring sticks.

 

[TJ8869]

Huge?

Sorry...yuge. This could have yuge ramifications for people who travel for work.

 

[Joes Place]

The market for plastic recycling has totally tanked, and the volume available is stunning.
Most people have no concept of how expensive it is to landfill, nor how bruising is the fight to site a new landfill or lay a full one to rest.
Get away from single use plastics. That is only a last generation or so phenomena that has played its course.

Plus, those homeless shelters you donate plastic hotel bottles to rarely end up in any recycling bins. Homeless folks don't have access to your "home" or "office" recycling bins.

Additionally, you waste a significant fraction of the soap or shampoo in the bottoms of those tiny bottles, compared with dispensers. Completely inefficient source of toiletries for poor/homeless. But, it makes Trad "feel good".

 

[The Tradition]

Plus, those homeless shelters you donate plastic hotel bottles to rarely end up in any recycling bins. Homeless folks don't have access to your "home" or "office" recycling bins.

Additionally, you waste a significant fraction of the soap or shampoo in the bottoms of those tiny bottles, compared with dispensers. Completely inefficient source of toiletries for poor/homeless. But, it makes Trad "feel good".

Where are homeless people going to find a shower with a wall dispenser?

 

[Joes Place]

I don't take a shower in any of those places...

FUNFACT: Dispensers in showers work the same way they do at sinks where you wash your hands.

 

[The Tradition]

FUNFACT: Dispensers in showers work the same way they do at sinks where you wash your hands.

At Four Points properties, the wall-mounted stuff has a "green tea tree" formula that smells like menthol and makes your scalp tingle.

I like having a bottle of shampoo from somewhere else instead of using that shit.

 

[Joes Place]

Where are homeless people going to find a shower with a wall dispenser?

Where did you expect them to find a shower to use the teeny bottle of shampoo you gave them?

 

[The Tradition]

Where did you expect them to find a shower to use the teeny bottle of shampoo you gave them?

They go to hotel pools and use that outdoor shower, dummy.

I've seen it many times. They creep around early in the morning when no one is out there.

 

[Joes Place]

At Four Points properties, the wall-mounted stuff has a "green tea tree" formula that smells like menthol and makes your scalp tingle.

I like having a bottle of shampoo from somewhere else instead of using that shit.

FUNFACT: You can buy travel bottles at Target, and take your own shampoo from home if you don't like 'green tea tree' formula.

FUNFACT II: You can reuse one of the bottles you already have to refill with your own shampoo, too.

 

[Joes Place]

They go to hotel pools and use that outdoor shower, dummy.

....which.........can have the same dispenser installed in it.
/thread

 

[The Tradition]

FUNFACT: You can buy travel bottles at Target, and take your own shampoo from home if you don't like 'green tea tree' formula.

FUNFACT II: You can reuse one of the bottles you already have to refill with your own shampoo, too.

Too much work. Sorry.

 

[The Tradition]

....which.........can have the same dispenser installed in it.
/thread

They don't provide "soap" at the outdoor shower. You're just supposed to rinse before swimming.

 

[BelemNole]

Too much work. Sorry.

Boo hoo

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Seems like a reasonable thing. Why not put it in those little salad dressing foil packs?

 

[lucas80]

Places are already doing this for cost reasons. Less waste is a side benefit. Trad being reduced to impotent rage is just a bonus for all of the rest of us.

 

[Rudolph]

I take them and drop them in a collection box at our office. We donate all those little bottles and soaps to a local organization that helps homeless people.

You mean you use them as stocking stuffers for your wife and kids and nieces and nephews?