Homelessness went up!
How is that possible?
How is that possible?
California spent $24B “fighting homelessness”
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Can we see the house and car of the person in charge of fighting homelessness with the $24B?
Estimates put the number of homeless in California at roughly 185,000 people. If they gave every single one of them $100k, the State would have saved $7 billion.
Homelessness will never be fixed until we accept that it is mostly a mental health and drug addiction problem, not an economic one.
Homelessness will never be fixed until we accept that it is mostly a mental health and drug addiction problem, not an economic one.
Or hear me out, the “government agencies” tasked with fixing the problem are incentivized NOT to fix the problem. Their funding would dissapear.
It is all one big grift on the California taxpayer!
It is all one big grift on the California taxpayer!
How much of that was pocketed by California Democrats and laundered through charities?
Nobody does less, with more, than Gavin Newsome.
I would love to see what specific “programs” each of those $24 billion dollars went to.
Shit like this is exactly why we need sane conservatives to step up and be the adults in the room. @Tom Paris, this is exactly why I am not a liberal and reject liberalism.
Wait till yall learn about Newsom's state of the art high speed rail system 😅
As we say on our dealer group calls that have every state represented, when the CA rep asks a question. Everyone responds that's California - there is no rhyme or reason what they do over there. If you incentivize something you will get more of it. All about the $.
You might be right. Maybe all Dems do is throw money at the problem.
What would the approach by conservatives be to reduce or eliminate homelessness?
I don't read PF's posts...they are mostly BS from a BS source so I really won't have an opinion.
Do you struggle sleeping at night? Do you have any addictions that cause restlessness?
To further this point, homelessness is about as complex of an issue as you can find. For the majority of homeless, each person needs mental health help, has a substance abuse problem to address, needs money, needs a job, needs housing, and needs a support network of some sort (among many other things). Positive outcomes are hard to achieve and sustain on any meaningful level.
The problem is almost unsolvable at this point (not that we shouldn’t try).
Stop incentivizing the behavior for starters. Reopen mental institutions after that.
I take a lot of Twitter posts with a grain of salt too, but I have yet to see any credible challenges to the problem of homelessness in California and the government’s abject failure at solving it.
The state encourages drug use and offers zero consequences to bad behavior, even in public. Wanna get high as a kite on a major sidewalk? Go for it. Feel like relieving yourself on the doorstep of the local business? Don't hold it in, comrade! Just clean your shit up when the CCP comes into town.
I am convinced money for homelessness and green projects are 100% money laundering schemes.
The weather and the state encourages it.
The weather is generally conducive to sleeping/staying outside, many municipalities have policies that facilitate it, an overall tolerance and there is enough wealth "around" to float it.
Edit to add...AND it costs A LOT of money to not be homeless in CA.
Decent weather and good funding...
I don't really know, but I think it's more complex that simply because it's a D state. Four of the top 10 are red states.
Yeeeesh. The people who commit their money, time, and lives to help these people also have to deal with this kind of attitude from people on the sidelines. Disheartening to say the least.
What are the incentives for being homeless?
I'm all for reopening mental health institutions, but participation is generally voluntary.
Tax billionaires and corporations and maybe we could end homelessness, but for whatever reason, we, as a nation, aren't interested in doing that. Taking care of its citizens is not a great American pastime.
First you need to build a facility to house them.
Then you plow up their shit every night and place them in facility. They can leave when they are sober. Rinse repeat.
Let it be loud and clear it isn’t a lifestyle choice in our community.
They can go somewhere else or do something different.
Frankly, they are a lost cause. Be tough to let others know it isn’t an option.
Then you plow up their shit every night and place them in facility. They can leave when they are sober. Rinse repeat.
Let it be loud and clear it isn’t a lifestyle choice in our community.
They can go somewhere else or do something different.
Frankly, they are a lost cause. Be tough to let others know it isn’t an option.
Part of that was tongue n cheek but part of it is real cynicism. How do you blow through that amount of money and basically make the problem worse? How does the government spend $8 billion on EV charges and in two years they are able to build one? Things like that are why people are skeptical of the government being involved in such things. I would rather non profits and churches lead the way and people send their money there instead of the tax payers being pilfered.
I don’t know. That’s why I posed the question.
Obviously, you need to make six figures to afford a cardboard box in San Francisco, but given how much money California has spent on the problem, I haven’t a clue.
Correct, but it's not even government agencies. It's mostly the activist and advocacy groups that get money from governments. They are absolutely grifting it, and these groups fight tooth and nail against shelters. These groups are almost openly fighting to maintain the homeless situation that enriches them.
I've always been a small government guy, who believe the public sector delivers better and more efficiently than government bureaucracy. But from the left to the right, we've really outsourced a massive amount of money to groups and NGOs and orgs that are little more than a scam, and exhibit almost all the same negatives that government agencies do, it terms of waste, corruption, etc.
There is almost no path anymore to fixing a problem.
Ok, sorry again. And, you can't even buy a decent box unless you buy a refrigerator. I realize these people aren't too mobile, but if they could scape up enough dough for a bus ticket they should get out of San Fran.
On the other hand, if they could scrape together $449,000 and afford over $5,000 in property taxes they could buy this beauty,
3229 Jennings St, San Francisco, CA 94124 | MLS #424082575 | Zillow
This 2166 square feet Single Family home has 3 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. It is located at 3229 Jennings St, San Francisco, CA.
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