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Can kneeling during the anthem be bad for black student athletes???

And this is why calling people on the left "snowflakes" was always hypocritical. It just turns out the right is triggered by different things but it's all the same cheap outrage. Those of you saying this disrespects those who served, that is 100% your choice to believe that. But at a certain point, maybe you ought to at least consider what those kneeling say they are kneeling for, instead of allowing yourself to be whipped into a frenzy where you imagine them kneeling to offend your every sensibility.

Everybody has their own taboos. My only problem with people's reaction to this one is I think they are letting themselves get manipulated by people who want to enrage them. He knelt because he was told that was more respectful than just sitting for the flag.

I know people who are very, very upset about the players praying on the field together because it's a public institution. I honestly don't get being that upset about anything these guys are doing. I choose to believe their hearts are in the right place.
 
Everybody has their own taboos. My only problem with people's reaction to this one is I think they are letting themselves get manipulated by people who want to enrage them. He knelt because he was told that was more respectful than just sitting for the flag.

I know people who are very, very upset about the players praying on the field together because it's a public institution. I honestly don't get being that upset about anything these guys are doing. I choose to believe their hearts are in the right place.
So the people that don't like it should just be sheep and go along with the people that told him that?
Sounds you're trying to do the manipulating

What a load crap.....
 
Everybody has their own taboos. My only problem with people's reaction to this one is I think they are letting themselves get manipulated by people who want to enrage them. He knelt because he was told that was more respectful than just sitting for the flag.

I know people who are very, very upset about the players praying on the field together because it's a public institution. I honestly don't get being that upset about anything these guys are doing. I choose to believe their hearts are in the right place.
It is correct that we have freedom of speech/expression in the USA, however it should be taboo to use that freedom of speech to attack those who provide and maintain that freedom.

One thing that everyone in the USA should share is that we want to live here. I am not an overly patriotic person and have never served in the military. But I am smart enough to know that a lot of people have faught and died so that I am able to live this life.

I will always stand for the anthem in support and respect for those who died.
 
For the first time in many years I have very little interest in Hawkeye football. The fun is being squeezed out of life in so many ways. People of color seem to be embracing victimhood all the while participating in the American Dream. Good people white or black or yellow don't get shot by the police.
 
It is correct that we have freedom of speech/expression in the USA, however it should be taboo to use that freedom of speech to attack those who provide and maintain that freedom.

I don't think they are attacking anybody. Obviously there are many people who disagree with me.
 
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Amen to that. Wife and I are Iowa graduates. Over 20 years buying 4 donor section seats. 25 years service in the Army. No thanks. I’m done as well.

You are so done that you’re still here commenting on a paid message board. Sure.
 
There will never again be a coach anywhere for any school that will put a stop to kneeling. It isn't possible for them to day anything and keep their job.
 
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And this is why calling people on the left "snowflakes" was always hypocritical. It just turns out the right is triggered by different things but it's all the same cheap outrage. Those of you saying this disrespects those who served, that is 100% your choice to believe that. But at a certain point, maybe you ought to at least consider what those kneeling say they are kneeling for, instead of allowing yourself to be whipped into a frenzy where you imagine them kneeling to offend your every sensibility.
As a veteran, what I find really disgusting is when I see a flagpole in someone's yard and they are flying a Trump flag below the U.S. flag. As if somehow the Trump flag is equated with the flag that tens of thousands of veterans died for. Never before has a President or Presidential candidate needed his own f'n flag. If anyone is proud of a so-called secondary U.S. flag but don't like players kneeling, your priorities are f'k up in a major way.
 
Honestly. I think my future possible employer would be impressed at the length of my leg stands. They would know they were gettin the real deal .
 
As a veteran, what I find really disgusting is when I see a flagpole in someone's yard and they are flying a Trump flag below the U.S. flag. As if somehow the Trump flag is equated with the flag that tens of thousands of veterans died for. Never before has a President or Presidential candidate needed his own f'n flag. If anyone is proud of a so-called secondary U.S. flag but don't like players kneeling, your priorities are f'k up in a major way.
Does the same thing go for Biden flags or is it just Trump flags that you get all pi$$y about. If so your priorities are just as f'k up. And yes I'm also a veteran.
 
Does the same thing go for Biden flags or is it just Trump flags that you get all pi$$y about. If so your priorities are just as f'k up. And yes I'm also a veteran.
You really wanna have this conversation? I don't see a hundred Biden pickup trucks with Biden flags trying to run a Trump bus off the road like what happened in Texas. Try again.
 
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As a veteran, what I find really disgusting is when I see a flagpole in someone's yard and they are flying a Trump flag below the U.S. flag. As if somehow the Trump flag is equated with the flag that tens of thousands of veterans died for. Never before has a President or Presidential candidate needed his own f'n flag. If anyone is proud of a so-called secondary U.S. flag but don't like players kneeling, your priorities are f'k up in a major way.

But it's not equated if the Trump flag is flying below the US flag. I would think you would know that as a veteran. Let me know if you see someone flying a t Trump flag above the US flag.
 
But it's not equated if the Trump flag is flying below the US flag. I would think you would know that as a veteran. Let me know if you see someone flying a t Trump flag above the US flag.
Who gives a shit if it's below or above. A Trump rag doesn't belong on the same flag pole with the U.S flag. But I understand that's too f'n complicated for you to understand.
 
The next 4 years are going to blow away what's left of your mind ....hahahaha
 
Thank you, answered like a true brain dead MAGAt. Yep, it's ok for a hundred pickups to try to run a bus off the road. I hope you're not a father because I pity your kids. God knows what you are teaching them.

Says the idiot who stands behind rioting, looting, beating the shit and shooting trump supporters. Your the one who backs this behavior, dip
 
I made a very difficult decision after yesterday's game when I saw for the first time Iowa players kneeling for our flag. As I mentioned in a post a few weeks ago I was in the Navy for 26 years and I did those years so everyone has the right to express their feelings. I also have the right to find it disgusting. I consider it parallel to ripping the flag, burning the flag,etc. I have gone to Hawk games for well over 50 years and spent probably 10s of thousands of dollars for events or gear. So my decision is I am done. I turned off the TV yesterday and will not come back unless we get a new coach who says enough of this crap. I know some on here will say negative things about this decision. I respect your decision if you want to continue to support the team but also respect mine for deciding to cut loose.

Cool story.
 
Good people white or black or yellow don't get shot by the police.
This is absolutely not true. Lots of good people have been shot by the police over the years.

Breonna Taylor is one of the most recent examples. Sleeping in her own home when plainclothes police(that means not in uniform) barged in with a no knock warrant while not having body cams on them for some reason. Her boyfriend tried to defend from what he thought were illegal intruders and she was shot 6 times. He fired 1 bullet, they fired over 30. She was a licensed EMT working as a technician in an emergency room. She did nothing illegal.

Was she not a good person? Because you said good people don't get shot by the police and she sure as shit was shot by the police.

There are a bunch of other examples that I don't have the time to detail here. I don't understand how so many people can be so intentionally blind that there are cops out there doing bad things and other cops helping to cover up those bad things. It isn't every cop and when you factor in the volume of interactions that occur with cops in the country day to day it doesn't happen with all that high of a percentage. But they still happen and the government doesn't seem to be doing much to prevent more situations from occurring. That is why people are pissed at the government and in some cases protesting the government by refusing to stand.

This isn't like Vietnam when soldiers were being spat on after coming back home. I would guess overwhelmingly that the people doing the kneeling have no problems with our military. And would in fact prefer the military over our police since our military seems to know how to interact with people in high stress situations without "fearing for their life" and shooting first. When the military was rolling through the streets of Minneapolis this summer, the protestors had zero issues with them whatsoever. Do you know why? Because they weren't firing teargas into peaceful protestors and weren't shooting bean bags, rubber bullets, or paint balls at people's faces trying to intentionally blind them like the police were. These protestors are not protesting against the military.

The flag does not belong to our military. It belongs to our country. The kneeling is a protest by citizens against their own country saying that it can do better. Both sides can be correct in this situation. Our country is one of the best places that people of color can live in the entire world. But, it can also make some changes to be an even better place for people of color to live too.
 
Did I say anywhere in my comment that the Minneapolis protests were completely peaceful? No. But you can't argue that there were peaceful protestors out that the police brutalized. There were also impartial reporters that were brutalized by the police too.

I said that the protestors did absolutely nothing against the military presence that was rolling through the streets because they weren't escalating the situation on the streets by shooting at protestors like the police were doing. My next door neighbor was one of the guardsmen out there on the streets. I didn't hear a single thing about protestors going after the military personnel from him. And there sure as hell wasn't anything in the news about protestors going up against the guardsmen either.

Yes there were non-peaceful protests. But the police were also firing the tear gas, rubber bullets, and bean bags and the peaceful protestors too. That is a big problem.

Which entirely explains one of the the points of my post. The protests aren't against the military, they are against the police. Kneeling isn't protesting against the military, it is protesting against the government that supports and enables the police to continue the bad things that many have been doing.
 
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This is absolutely not true. Lots of good people have been shot by the police over the years.

Breonna Taylor is one of the most recent examples. Sleeping in her own home when plainclothes police(that means not in uniform) barged in with a no knock warrant while not having body cams on them for some reason. Her boyfriend tried to defend from what he thought were illegal intruders and she was shot 6 times. He fired 1 bullet, they fired over 30. She was a licensed EMT working as a technician in an emergency room. She did nothing illegal.

Was she not a good person? Because you said good people don't get shot by the police and she sure as shit was shot by the police.

There are a bunch of other examples that I don't have the time to detail here. I don't understand how so many people can be so intentionally blind that there are cops out there doing bad things and other cops helping to cover up those bad things. It isn't every cop and when you factor in the volume of interactions that occur with cops in the country day to day it doesn't happen with all that high of a percentage. But they still happen and the government doesn't seem to be doing much to prevent more situations from occurring. That is why people are pissed at the government and in some cases protesting the government by refusing to stand.

This isn't like Vietnam when soldiers were being spat on after coming back home. I would guess overwhelmingly that the people doing the kneeling have no problems with our military. And would in fact prefer the military over our police since our military seems to know how to interact with people in high stress situations without "fearing for their life" and shooting first. When the military was rolling through the streets of Minneapolis this summer, the protestors had zero issues with them whatsoever. Do you know why? Because they weren't firing teargas into peaceful protestors and weren't shooting bean bags, rubber bullets, or paint balls at people's faces trying to intentionally blind them like the police were. These protestors are not protesting against the military.

The flag does not belong to our military. It belongs to our country. The kneeling is a protest by citizens against their own country saying that it can do better. Both sides can be correct in this situation. Our country is one of the best places that people of color can live in the entire world. But, it can also make some changes to be an even better place for people of color to live too.
If he wasn't a drug dealing criminal she's still alive. Let's not act like her death is all on the cops.
She was probably a decent person, however it seems she associated with and enabled criminals.
Should be teaching people not to associate with criminals more than teaching to hate cops
 
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....in part because of their freedom to take part in statements/actions of protest.
What statement does kneeling make? From what I gather, it's to spread awareness that racism is bad, and there should be equality for all. Ummm.....who TF is unaware of those two things? The people who don't believe in those two things, will not be swayed into believing in them, by kneeling. The only thing it has succeeded in doing, is creating more divide, and giving attention seekers a spotlight. I don't see anyone kneeling against heart disease, cancer, diabetes, suicide, or the stubbing of toes, but everyone is aware they are bad. This is a ridiculous form of "protest".
 
Freaking Trump suckers that still think Trump actually cares about you or the military. Have you forgot that he was a DRAFT DODGER? Being a silver spoon like he was allows that. But keep being outraged about the kneelers. What a bunch of Freaking Iowa hicks.
 
What statement does kneeling make? From what I gather, it's to spread awareness that racism is bad, and there should be equality for all. Ummm.....who TF is unaware of those two things? The people who don't believe in those two things, will not be swayed into believing in them, by kneeling. The only thing it has succeeded in doing, is creating more divide, and giving attention seekers a spotlight. I don't see anyone kneeling against heart disease, cancer, diabetes, suicide, or the stubbing of toes, but everyone is aware they are bad. This is a ridiculous form of "protest".

Lol what a funny take.
 
Perhaps you should join the children's table. The adults are having a conversation, and you have nothing of merit to contribute.

If the adults are spewing mindless chatter like what you put out then I'm fine being at the children's table. Carry on with your doltish outlooks.
 
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