CBS write think Has are a bit over rated....hope we prove him wrong!!
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All ready lost the W and now the K, next man in
The article is spot on. They didn’t really say Iowa can’t compete for a final four, but said the big 10 is so tough Iowa will have enough losses to keep them out of the top 5 at year end. Can’t really argue that.
I must be missing something, the link goes to an article about Duke's 5 toughest opponents?
I can't recall an Iowa team being as stellar offensively, while simultaneously incompetent defensively, as Iowa has been of late. The D is an obvious area for the pundit class to pick apart and likely something that will give them pause about considering the Hawks a true top 5/FF type team.
It's up to this group to show that they can either : 1. score so much and so frequently that D isn't important 2. Play MUCH better team D than last season 3. Some combination of defensive improvement and increased offensive efficiency that they find ways to win.
I suspect, as probably most of us do, that #3 is the pathway to the NCAA title game.
It's up to this group to show that they can either : 1. score so much and so frequently that D isn't important 2. Play MUCH better team D than last season 3. Some combination of defensive improvement and increased offensive efficiency that they find ways to win.
I suspect, as probably most of us do, that #3 is the pathway to the NCAA title game.
Yeah the link is bad. Scroll down and there is another article with “overrated” in the headline
Scroll down past that for the article......it is actually the 3rd article down I believe.
All about the defense. I think that one thing that could help is playing Toussaint a lot. I know Bohannon is back but I really think he should be a bench gunner. I think Frederick can be a decent defender and I think Wieskamp has that ability as well. If you can improve the perimeter defense with those three it will help cover up some of the defensive weaknesses of Garza.
Amazing how our expectations have grown to the point that finishing #11 in the country would be a disappointment.
I wouldn’t call it disappointing at all. Especially if Iowa would make at least the sweet 16. In my opinion, sweet 16 or bust. Anything further would just be more impressive.
I get it that we want to look at the Sweet 16 as a "realistic" expectation. But no Iowa team has done that since 1999, before many of the players on today's team were born. Iowa could have a very good season, finish top 3 in the Big 10, top 15 in the polls, get a 2 or 3 seed and lose a second-round game and have it not be a huge upset if they did so.
If the team is reasonably healthy and Garza is able to play every game, they should have a good season. What that means for W-L I don't really know. But it's not impossible to see a 12-8 conference record and whaling and gnashing of teeth on this board.
People know how the B1G will be a grind this season, even more than normal. I guess once football is over some of the wackos will come to the bball board to freak out about every loss.
But most everyone, especially people that are here talking throughout the offseason, won't be doing that.
I expect the Hawks to have 5-7 losses but also expect them in the final four. But with a one game elimination postseason (which I don't like) anything can happen.
I see your point, but if Iowa finishes as a 4 seed or better, then they are technically “expected” to win each of their first two games based on seeding alone. Hence, I see it as a realistic expectation to make the Sweet 16, and borderline the Elite 8
If we finish lower than a 4 seed, then a run in the Dance will be the only thing that could salvage an already-disappointing season in my eyes (of course there are circumstances - injuries, COVID - which don’t make this an all-encompassing statement)
I understand what you’re saying. I’ve never seen Iowa in the sweet 16. I’ve seen plenty of Fran teams make the second round. I’m expecting sweet 16 this year which I think is a reasonable expectation. A lot of people are setting up for disappointment thinking big title and final four.
Not saying it is totally realistic, but given the hype surrounding this team, I think if we failed to advance to at least the final eight in the tournament, many will feel as though we fell short of our potential.
Some time too much emphasis is put on the tournament. For example, let's say they win the Big Ten but lose in the round of 32 just because they had a bad shooting night or something. A lot of people will be pissed and think the season was a failure but in reality it was a huge success. The tournament is just not a good way to choose a champion and determine who the best team or teams are. Great entertainment for sure but not a good way to choose a champion. Winning the conference in year where there are a lot of good teams is way more impressive than winning two games in a win or go home tournament.
I think our defense may improve into the 50s ranking. Garza worked this summer (with Dad) on improving foot speed and lateral movement (for defense). And I thought JBO last year moved well and stayed in front of some pretty good players - and that was on one good hip. So with JBO doing better to stop drives and Garza doing better at the rim, we should be decent (I hope!!).
Then add in Nunge helping guard the rim and his outside shooting. Would you rather have Pemsl playing center or Nunge?
Then add in Nunge helping guard the rim and his outside shooting. Would you rather have Pemsl playing center or Nunge?
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