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Hope people show up tomorrow

Again, I understand your disdain. My point is that not showing up to support the program may have long term implications. I also don't think it's fair to the guys putting everything they have into the program to represent us to say "we don't like your coach and think you are soft so we won't support you." That's all I'm saying.

I'll be there tonight.

Have fun. But Fran put the players in this position. I don't blame the players, I blame the boss
 
Then shut up about it being unwatchable. You'll watch if we play well and especially if we win. Even if it is on tape

You like watching no defense, terrible terrible rebounding and free throw shooting? Hey, if that is what you like.....good for you.

And as an Iowa Alumn I'll always want what is best for the athletic programs. I think my comments about the current state of Mens BBall are in line with that philosophy.
 
Unfortunately not even close. Check the secondary markets.

Where would rather play if you're a top player: A place where you play in front of fans or nobody?
You are expecting too much from the fans. The product is stale. Zero defense every year and no post-season expectations. At least with football fans have the tailgating experience. You can make a day of it. That isn't true for bball. It's tough to commit to that drive for many considering the product.
 
I want to see more fight in their games. They've demonstrated it, at times, but it comes far too infrequently. If they're going to lose, go down swinging. When a shot goes up, stop watching the ball, find the nearest guy and stick your ass in his crotch and an elbow in his chest. Close out on a shooter like you mean it. Fight over the top of screens, even if it means you knock some guy on his ass. They need to change the narrative and how they're perceived, particularly by their fans. Not dirty, but tough. Stop being so nice. They ratchet up the intensity from the jump, and maintain that level for the whole game, the fans will appreciate it. And they'll win more. And the fans will start to come back.
 
For the “It’s too far to drive” crowd, i encourage you to buy tickets and donate them to the Boys and Girls Club or a similar organization. There are lots of kids who would love to go to an Iowa basketball game but don’t ordinarily have the opportunity to do so.
 
They fired Tom Davis, who was the all time winning coach at the time

May want to fact check this. Dr Tom wasn’t “fired”. His contract wasn’t renewed, which is exactly what Ronman suggested could happen to Fran. If that is the case with Fran, you’d hope Iowa would handle this one completely different from how they handled Dr Tom’s.
 
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Nebraska has never won an NCAA tourney game...ever.
They sell out most men's home games.
Nebraska has a more loyal fan base.
Neb.Football, I get..but Nebby BB?
This is what I don't understand. What is so different about Nebraska and Iowa hoops fans? Two Midwestern states right next door to each other, yet apparently different people.
 
I've heard every excuse there is. The tip off times change. I don't like weeknight games. Weekend game interfere with kids sports.
Nothing but pissing and moaning. If you have the chance go because nothing beats the value of live sports, and you rarely walk out of CHA feeling like the team didn't put on a good show.
Well I heard there is a slight chance of snow and it's cold outside. So no, I won't be attending.
 
May want to fact check this. Dr Tom wasn’t “fired”. His contract wasn’t renewed, which is exactly what Ronman suggested could happen to Fran. If that is the case with Fran, you’d hope Iowa would handle this one completely different from how they handled Dr Tom’s.
I think that's what happened to Brian, but a lot of people said he was fired. Basically it's giving someone the "it's not you, it's me" line when you're breaking up with them.
 
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May want to fact check this. Dr Tom wasn’t “fired”. His contract wasn’t renewed, which is exactly what Ronman suggested could happen to Fran. If that is the case with Fran, you’d hope Iowa would handle this one completely different from how they handled Dr Tom’s.

I was on campus. Yes, I know the facts. Not renewed = fired. Gave him no reason to recruit. Great job Bowlsby
 
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While IU has played better the last few weeks, they’ve also not played a lot of competition. Will be surprised if IU keeps things close. Until they win a game like this on the road, then come home and beat the Illini, not a lot of Woody believers these days.

Reneau injury has forced old school, double Post Woody into playing only 1 guy (Ballo) inside with Goode, Rice, Galloway and Mgbako with some better results. Mgbako just went 0-13 vs USC, so he’s due, but will give up as many points on the defensive end as he scores. Goode was awful shooting the first 10-12 or so games, but seems to have found his old Illini touch. Rice is a quick driving PG, who struggles from distance. IU can’t be trading Ballo 2’s for Dix/Sandfort 3’s. Better IU teams than this have come back with losses at Carver. Here’s to a good, injury-free game, I hope.
 
Beating IU is always fun.

Carver cones!!!

And we are favored?

Should also be said that for about another week college basketball lines are heavily computer generated.

Once the football slate slim downs you will start to see sharper lines in college hoops, as Vegas gets its intel on the campuses.

If this game were next week Iowa would be closer to a 2 or 3 point favorite
 
I've heard every excuse there is. The tip off times change. I don't like weeknight games. Weekend game interfere with kids sports.
Nothing but pissing and moaning. If you have the chance go because nothing beats the value of live sports, and you rarely walk out of CHA feeling like the team didn't put on a good show.
Most fans complain because it’s tough to get to weeknight games.

Well here’s our chance at a home Saturday game against a prime opponent! AND…..fans will just find some other excuse not to go.

This isn’t about bad defense or a lack of sweet 16s. This is about fans caring just enough to shit all over the team on the Internet but not caring enough to actually support the team.

What a miserable fanbase.
 
Most fans complain because it’s tough to get to weeknight games.

Well here’s our chance at a home Saturday game against a prime opponent! AND…..fans will just find some other excuse not to go.

This isn’t about bad defense or a lack of sweet 16s. This is about fans caring just enough to shit all over the team on the Internet but not caring enough to actually support the team.

What a miserable fanbase.
Sure it is.
 
I assume you will be at the game?

Ah, the old “blame the fans” tactic.
I do agree there needs to be more fans at the games. There used to be plenty in the stands in years past. There is a reason they don’t show up now.
Yeah, I'll be there. The only reason I'm not there more is because I coach two sports and the 6 pm games are tough to get to.

I'm blaming the fans in addition to other things going on. I just didn't realize how we became so fair weathered. Just disappointed in us.
 
Yeah, I'll be there. The only reason I'm not there more is because I coach two sports and the 6 pm games are tough to get to.

I'm blaming the fans in addition to other things going on. I just didn't realize how we became so fair weathered. Just disappointed in us.
People tend to spend disposable income on things they enjoy. Edit: Just to clarify, you are angry that people don't spend their money and time on a product they aren't satisfied with? Just checking.
 
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Snowball's chance in hell that McCaffery gets fired. You just don't fire your all time winning coach. Now resigning is a different matter and I could see that happening after the season.
And I would dispute your "fact" that the fans want McCaffery gone. It might seem that way on this board, but I doubt that is the sentiment of most casual Iowa fans.
All time winningest coach doesn't mean squat. (See Ferentz, Kirk).

The great 1970 Iowa team played 20 games in the regular season. This year's team will play, I think, 31 games, several against teams in the 300-range. You do the math.
 
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Yeah, I'll be there. The only reason I'm not there more is because I coach two sports and the 6 pm games are tough to get to.

I'm blaming the fans in addition to other things going on. I just didn't realize how we became so fair weathered. Just disappointed in us.
4 ncaa in tourney wins in 14 years and the same problems with bad D and rebounding kind of hard to get fans excited....but I will watch every game and hope they win em all
 
Yeah, I'll be there. The only reason I'm not there more is because I coach two sports and the 6 pm games are tough to get to.

I'm blaming the fans in addition to other things going on. I just didn't realize how we became so fair weathered. Just disappointed in us.
I try to go to a few every year. Going to 3 this season (I live in Des Moines metro).
 
Snowball's chance in hell that McCaffery gets fired. You just don't fire your all time winning coach. Now resigning is a different matter and I could see that happening after the season.
And I would dispute your "fact" that the fans want McCaffery gone. It might seem that way on this board, but I doubt that is the sentiment of most casual Iowa fans.

The winningest only because of length of time at Iowa. Also the most losses. 15 years and only one big tournament title. He needs to go.
 
It is like Sox and cubs.
Sox fans demand a winner or will not attend.
Sox owner see bad attendance and cuts player budget.
Team gets worse. Fans stay home ..owner cuts even more. Ugly spiral.

Cubs fans attend no matter record.
Team sucks. Fans come...owner invests in players...team turns corner...win world series 2016.

Nebraska has never won an NCAA tourney game...ever.
They sell out most men's home games.
Nebraska has a more loyal fan base.
Neb.Football, I get..but Nebby BB?

Nebraska put in a new arena and have made coaching changes to try to improve.

We've made minor arena upgrades and have the same no defense coach for 15 years. We've seen the ceiling for the current staff years ago.

With the existing staff, I expect Nebraska to make a sweet 16 before Iowa..... They may not do it.... But Fran is NOT doing it EVER
 
Nebraska put in a new arena and have made coaching changes to try to improve.

We've made minor arena upgrades and have the same no defense coach for 15 years. We've seen the ceiling for the current staff years ago.

With the existing staff, I expect Nebraska to make a sweet 16 before Iowa..... They may not do it.... But Fran is NOT doing it EVER
But they haven't really improved. They are stuck where they have been.
 
Well, you can watch it and enjoy watching our team get shredded on defense, boards, and FTs
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People tend to spend disposable income on things they enjoy. Edit: Just to clarify, you are angry that people don't spend their money and time on a product they aren't satisfied with? Just checking.
Fair enough. But if you don’t care enough to spend your time or money supporting the program, then don’t come on the Internet bashing the program.

Pretty simple.
 
You are expecting too much from the fans. The product is stale. Zero defense every year and no post-season expectations. At least with football fans have the tailgating experience. You can make a day of it. That isn't true for bball. It's tough to commit to that drive for many considering the product.
People couldn’t have driven to IC and had a nice pre-game dinner with friends, and maybe even spent the night?
The product seemed zesty, not stale yesterday.
 
Fair enough. But if you don’t care enough to spend your time or money supporting the program, then don’t come on the Internet bashing the program.

Pretty simple.
lol that’s just dumb. Guessing people that have tuned out are ones that used to care a lot and got tired of caring because we get the same product every year. Screw them, i guess. Oh, and i don’t see a lot of “program” bashing, i see a lot of “fran” bashing, which is 100% warranted
 
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lol that’s just dumb. Guessing people that have tuned out are ones that used to care a lot and got tired of caring because we get the same product every year. Screw them, i guess. Oh, and i don’t see a lot of “program” bashing, i see a lot of “fran” bashing, which is 100% warranted
Good grief….the Hawks won! No need to slam Fran.
 
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I assume you will be at the game?

Ah, the old “blame the fans” tactic.
I do agree there needs to be more fans at the games. There used to be plenty in the stands in years past. There is a reason they don’t show up now.
Yep, it’s called fancy flat screen TVs and laziness. 😉
 
It is like Sox and cubs.
Sox fans demand a winner or will not attend.
Sox owner see bad attendance and cuts player budget.
Team gets worse. Fans stay home ..owner cuts even more. Ugly spiral.

Cubs fans attend no matter record.
Team sucks. Fans come...owner invests in players...team turns corner...win world series 2016.

Nebraska has never won an NCAA tourney game...ever.
They sell out most men's home games.
Nebraska has a more loyal fan base.
Neb.Football, I get..but Nebby BB?
Because there’s nothing else to do in the winter in Lincoln, NE other then to attend women’s volleyball and men’s basketball games.
 
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