Central Iowa school districts react to education spending plan passed by Iowa House

[joelbc1]

To be fair, Iowa still ranks as one of the better states (11th in 2024) in the country as far as education goes according to USNews. Our children are receiving a good education and we are getting good bang for our buck.

With that said, this shouldn’t be a GOP versus Dem battle. As an Iowan, we should not skimp on our children’s education. I will typically side with Democrats on education spending in Iowa. I don’t think they were asking too much with a 5% increase.

It is a Dem/Rep thingy Garry because the Republicans have determined it should be. Tying themselves to “the Family Leader” and that nut-job asshole leader of theirs is the best reason I can give why politics and religion should never be allowed to join forces. State collected tax dollars should never go to ant private or church sponsored schools…ever.
This year, the Republicans won an election declaring Biden and the Dems allowed 20% inflation to run rapid in America…. Yet The Iowa/Farm Bureau legislature has seen fit to keep pace with inflation by allowing schools a 2.25% in crease in budgets…..while gutting most Iowa public school districts of additional suns of money by gifting tax dollars to private/church supported schools. Bullshit.

 

[Gus is dead]

No

w you know why public and private schools are not playing by the same rules.

Yes I do. And I also know that residents of Iowa should have options. No reason I should have to have my kids in a school that has kids that are going to distract from my child's learning. This is about my family and my children.

My wife, the public school teacher, and I educated our kids in parochial school. She did not want our kids in that environment. They are in college and are on the Deans and Presidents lists. I think the schools they went to in their childhood had a lot to do with that. I do not regret putting my kids in parochial school one bit. We sacrificed a ton to make it happen. Why should only those that can afford such things be able to take advantage? If one school is better, allow anyone to enroll using the tax dollars they pay. There are good public schools to be sure. If you are in one of those districts, then fantastic. This wont affect you. I feel like because I could afford another option, my kids were given better odds. Does that seem right to you?

Second, public schools are going downhill partly because of the clientele but also the folks that are making curriculum and disciplinary decisions are making the wrong ones. Focusing on the wrong things, forcing a one size fits all technique from what I hear. And do I hear about it....every day.

 

[thewop]

In the article one superintendent spoke of the proposal saying the "2.25% increase wont cut it" while noting that health insurance renewals are 11.3%.

I have news for school officials. Every American has been dealing with these high increases the last few years.

Central Iowa school districts react to education spending plan passed by Iowa House

Lawmakers advanced a package Thursday that would increase per-pupil funding by 2.25%.

www.kcci.com

Yep. Telling your employer your raise won't cut it doesn't go very far in the private sector either.

 

[RileyHawk]

Yes I do. And I also know that residents of Iowa should have options. No reason I should have to have my kids in a school that has kids that are going to distract from my child's learning. This is about my family and my children.

My wife, the public school teacher, and I educated our kids in parochial school. She did not want our kids in that environment. They are in college and are on the Deans and Presidents lists. I think the schools they went to in their childhood had a lot to do with that. I do not regret putting my kids in parochial school one bit. We sacrificed a ton to make it happen. Why should only those that can afford such things be able to take advantage? If one school is better, allow anyone to enroll using the tax dollars they pay. There are good public schools to be sure. If you are in one of those districts, then fantastic. This wont affect you. I feel like because I could afford another option, my kids were given better odds. Does that seem right to you?

Second, public schools are going downhill partly because of the clientele but also the folks that are making curriculum and disciplinary decisions are making the wrong ones. Focusing on the wrong things, forcing a one size fits all technique from what I hear. And do I hear about it....every day.

Except everyone doesn't have options. The schools/churches have options. You and the others supporting this grift are selfish pricks who care only about yourself.

 

[RileyHawk]

Yep. Telling your employer your raise won't cut it doesn't go very far in the private sector either.

WTF? If I don't like my raise I can shop around and potentially get a better salary at another business. What option do public schools have to find additional funding?

You say a lot of stupid shit.

 

[Gus is dead]

It is a Dem/Rep thingy Garry because the Republicans have determined it should be. Tying themselves to “the Family Leader” and that nut-job asshole leader of theirs is the best reason I can give why politics and religion should never be allowed to join forces. State collected tax dollars should never go to ant private or church sponsored schools…ever.
This year, the Republicans won an election declaring Biden and the Dems allowed 20% inflation to run rapid in America…. Yet The Iowa/Farm Bureau legislature has seen fit to keep pace with inflation by allowing schools a 2.25% in crease in budgets…..while gutting most Iowa public school districts of additional suns of money by gifting tax dollars to private/church supported schools. Bullshit.

This assumes that the reason for failing schools is funding and that decreased funding cause more failure. I disagree.

This simply moves the money that would be spent on my kids in public school to my kids in parochial. Sure the money that the public school would have gotten from the State goes down. That will force more school consolidation and focusing on efficiencies perhaps. Ok.

I have no idea why every problem with our education system is because we don't have enough money.

I have zero issue, and recommend, that if local schools need more money, then get it locally. Bond issues etc. That is the fix IMO. I am for that 100%. Local residents also hold the school board and schools more accountable. If the local bond issue passes and the schools are still failing, then local changes need to be made.

 

[RileyHawk]

This assumes that the reason for failing schools is funding and that decreased funding cause more failure. I disagree.

This simply moves the money that would be spent on my kids in public school to my kids in parochial. Sure the money that the public school would have gotten from the State goes down. That will force more school consolidation and focusing on efficiencies perhaps. Ok.

I have no idea why every problem with our education system is because we don't have enough money.

I have zero issue, and recommend, that if local schools need more money, then get it locally. Bond issues etc. That is the fix IMO. I am for that 100%. Local residents also hold the school board and schools more accountable. If the local bond issue passes and the schools are still failing, then local changes need to be made.

You're ignorant.

 

[Tom Paris]

Thank the teacher unions.

We. Have. No. Power. Could you Republicans EVER understand anything we teach you? Stop blaming unions that were blown up by a governor who has full on attacked public education in Iowa. This is on Kim.

 

[Gus is dead]

Except everyone doesn't have options. The schools/churches have options. You and the others supporting this grift are selfish pricks who care only about yourself.

I 100% dont just care about myself. Quite the opposite. I see the benefit my kids gleaned from their education in parochial schools and think others should be able to benefit as well. It isnt fair to do otherwise.

My kids, if you read the post, don't stand to benefit at all. They are out of K-12.

You will see locally, non religious schools, academies if you will, crop up to meet this need as well. Then those that have issue with religion can have options too. This is already happening in some areas.

 

[joelbc1]

Except everyone doesn't have options. The schools/churches have options. You and the others supporting this grift are selfish pricks who care only about yourself.

They do have options. They can send kids to a neighboring school district hormonal cost…or send them to a parochial/ private school where they need to pay the full freight.
It is bullshit that one cent of my tax dollar goes to any parochial school. Complete bullshit. But then what I have learned the last 19 years in Iowa. Is I don’t have personal rights any more.

 

[Gus is dead]

You're ignorant.

No actually I am quite informed. I also guarantee I have way more knowledge on education, civil policy, and local government than you think I do. Not going to get into why but it is a fact.

I am doing what needs to be done. Walking the walk. This is in the form of civic engagement, policy making and serving my community, helping to improve the quality of Iowa for Iowans in my own way.

Sorry if that doesnt fit your perception. Since you are a rando internet poster it doesnt really matter does it? I come on here to represent conservatism. I watch this board in it seems to suggest that the world is mnoving left. It is not. I try to balance the BS with what I think is right. Now do I probably give in to the toxicity here from time to time? Yes most assuredly.

 

[Gus is dead]

They do have options. They can send kids to a neighboring school district hormonal cost…or send them to a parochial/ private school where they need to pay the full freight.
It is bullshit that one cent of my tax dollar goes to any parochial school. Complete bullshit. But then what I have learned the last 19 years in Iowa. Is I don’t have personal rights any more.

Then you should donate the money you are saving on your income tax, from the Iowa retirement income waiver, to the schools. I don't believe this but what if I told you that don't want one nickle of my tax dollars going to support a well-to-do retiree?

 

[joelbc1]

This assumes that the reason for failing schools is funding and that decreased funding cause more failure. I disagree.

This simply moves the money that would be spent on my kids in public school to my kids in parochial. Sure the money that the public school would have gotten from the State goes down. That will force more school consolidation and focusing on efficiencies perhaps. Ok.

I have no idea why every problem with our education system is because we don't have enough money.

I have zero issue, and recommend, that if local schools need more money, then get it locally. Bond issues etc. That is the fix IMO. I am for that 100%. Local residents also hold the school board and schools more accountable. If the local bond issue passes and the schools are still failing, then local changes need to be made.

Parents for the most part don’t care about education. They want their kids to get good grades but dont care if their kids learn how to think for themselves. Not all localities have equal (financial) resources. That limits your “bonding” idea. That is where private/parochial schools can come into play. As long as mom and dad can afford to send Junior to private school, so be it. Don’t be stealing from poor Johnny to be feeding Wealthy William ..let’s wealthy William’s folks pay for his education. And not with my tax dollar.

 

[joelbc1]

Then you should donate the money you are saving on your income tax, from the Iowa retirement income waiver, to the schools. I don't believe this but what if I told you that don't want one nickle of my tax dollars going to support a well-to-do retiree?

Why? I pay for my communities schools twice a year..
Because the State of Iowa is doing something phuquin’ stupid…. Why should I encourage the bastards?
Good luck in not paying you social security..I paid mine for 47 years…and honestly Gus, I could care less what you want your tax money to do.
Iowa (the State of) has violated one of the basic premises of our nation’s constitution by allowing tax dollars to support any aspect of organized religion. Shame in Kim! Shame on Republicans in the Legislature! And Shame on ignorant Iowans who think this is a good idea.

 

[RileyHawk]

I 100% dont just care about myself. Quite the opposite. I see the benefit my kids gleaned from their education in parochial schools and think others should be able to benefit as well. It isnt fair to do otherwise.

My kids, if you read the post, don't stand to benefit at all. They are out of K-12.

You will see locally, non religious schools, academies if you will, crop up to meet this need as well. Then those that have issue with religion can have options too. This is already happening in some areas.

FFS. I can't remember anyone missing the point more than this.

Where is it happening and how do they ensure everyone gets an equal opportunity to attend?

 

[RileyHawk]

No actually I am quite informed. I also guarantee I have way more knowledge on education, civil policy, and local government than you think I do. Not going to get into why but it is a fact.

I am doing what needs to be done. Walking the walk. This is in the form of civic engagement, policy making and serving my community, helping to improve the quality of Iowa for Iowans in my own way.

Sorry if that doesnt fit your perception. Since you are a rando internet poster it doesnt really matter does it? I come on here to represent conservatism. I watch this board in it seems to suggest that the world is mnoving left. It is not. I try to balance the BS with what I think is right. Now do I probably give in to the toxicity here from time to time? Yes most assuredly.

You're not and you don't. You've exhibited that here.

How does the voucher system help the 90% of Iowa students that will not be accepted to private schools?

 

[Doodads and Hoohah]

They were around then, but they've gotten 10 times more entitled since then.

Negative. They have been neutered in many cases.

 

[grayhair81]

WTF? If I don't like my raise I can shop around and potentially get a better salary at another business. What option do public schools have to find additional funding?

You say a lot of stupid shit.

There is an entire world of opportunities outside education if the money isn't good enough.

 

[Doodads and Hoohah]

There is an entire world of opportunities outside education if the money isn't good enough.

Like picking strawberries or roofing houses.