OK State threw a pass with 4 seconds left on 4th down that was ruled intentional grounding. Untimed play for CMU results in a touchdown with a lateral and everything. Now there is a question on whether they could play an extra play after an offensive penalty call or not with loss of down.
Central Michigan wins? Controversy galore!
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the rule is a loss of down... therefore the untimed play is the right call.
if that is not the rule... it should be.
if that is not the rule... it should be.
Anybody that's ever played a video game knows that you run backwards for 50 yards and throw it out of bounds when the clock expires
The officials on tv read right out of the rule book and it sounds like the refs screwed the pooch.
those damn directional schools causing all kinds of chaos!!
which is the best team from the Big 12?
#3 Oklahoma lost last week; #22 OK State lost this week; Texas pulls off the surprise at home last week vs ND
good lord; and we are just in week 2!!!!
which is the best team from the Big 12?
#3 Oklahoma lost last week; #22 OK State lost this week; Texas pulls off the surprise at home last week vs ND
good lord; and we are just in week 2!!!!
It's ok, Mike Gundy is a MAN he can handle it!
The place should have never been allowed. But I'm perfectly fine with it
@PaulMyerberg: From the NCAA rule book regarding untimed downs:
@PaulMyerberg: From the NCAA rule book regarding untimed downs:
Can the NCAA reverse the final score then, considering that the clock was at zero and not tied?
I honestly don't know whether they actually can reverse a final score, meaning do they have the power to do so.
I'd think that imho a game never really should have it's result changed...but in this case, unless there's something I am missing here...this game should be reversed.
Also, I may be wrong, but I am also thinking that a MAC crew officiated it.
I honestly don't know whether they actually can reverse a final score, meaning do they have the power to do so.
I'd think that imho a game never really should have it's result changed...but in this case, unless there's something I am missing here...this game should be reversed.
Also, I may be wrong, but I am also thinking that a MAC crew officiated it.
There is no question that the MAC should order and that Central Michigan should comply with a request to forfeit the game.
Look at this from an Iowa perspective. We would be popping our heads if this happened to us.
Look at this from an Iowa perspective. We would be popping our heads if this happened to us.
They could but I would never happen. They will say my bad and it will go in the books.
It's part of human referees.
The MAC admitted the refs blew it already, and are letting the result stand.
Stay tuned.
The OkSU fan reaction is interesting. For the most part, they want the loss to stand and Gumby fired.
Stay tuned.
The OkSU fan reaction is interesting. For the most part, they want the loss to stand and Gumby fired.
This reminds me of perhaps the greatest finish to a game that I was in attendance of back in 1974 when Michigan State upset Ohio State 16-13. Was in high school at the time and was at the game with my dad then who was an MSU professor at the time.
MSU was ahead in the final seconds with Ohio State being stopped at the goal line with just seconds left. Archie Griffin then perhaps ran in when the clock was running out. Did they have the ball snapped in time? Were they set long enough before they hiked the ball? There was no instant replay machinery in those days. Only the ABC broadcast cameras. They deferred ruling on who won until Wayne Duke and the Big Ten office reviewed the broadcast game tapes which cut between shots of the clock and the live coverage of whether Griffin went over the goal line or not. I remember when we were walking towards our car in the parking lot when we could hear an announcement from the stadium speakers announcing that the Big Ten had decided in MSU's favor, and everyone in the stadium and in the parking lot cheering heavily then.
Woody Hayes was pretty upset about the outcome of that game, punching a fan on his way out of the building then, and he was rumored to have sic'd the NCAA on MSU's program then which subsequently lead to them being put on probation with then coach Denny Stolz leaving the program when that happened. MSU fans really hated Ohio State then after that, and I still have my "O How I Hate Ohio State" t-shirt in a box some place from those days.
When looking back at last year's Big Ten championship game which was decided in the last minute of the game as well, and also coincidentally by the same score, and you had Archie Griffin handing the most valuable player trophy to Connor Cook then, I just KNEW that memories of that game against the same MSU team had to be going through Griffin's head then, when his touchdown didn't count then, and MSU's touchdown was counted this year in the end.
Also remember many folks I went to high school with in those days going to Central Michigan in those days too. I'm guessing they are pretty happy today!
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If the Colorado 1990 fifth down game still stands, then there must be absolutely, positively nothing anybody can ever do to change the result of a game.
Although in fairness, it's unlikely CU would have spiked the ball on 4th down had that been the down marker.
Now it appears that the B12 replay officials could have reversed the play. Evidently the B12 has a rule which can reverse egregious game clock issues, according to the B12 themselves.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Let's focus on the important thing - that was the easiest cover that you'll get this year. I locked it in at OSU -20.5
I just don't understand how this can happen. They have replay official in the booth (WITH THE RULE BOOK) who could of looked it up for them. I realize the rule book is long, but damn. Sucks for OSU.
The most hilarious part is that Okie St gets to blame their own Big 12 officials - they provided the replay crew for the game - for the gaffe.
1) Big 12 officials were the replay crew - if they had known the rule they could have made sure it was enforced.
2) Absolutely nobody anywhere would feel sorry for Iowa if this had happened to them, so I'm not going to waste my time giving Okie St any sympathy; it's more fun to laugh.
Blatant clipping penalty not called at the 6:57 mark of the video. I think that might even get a player tossed in today's game.
If they couldn't reverse the score for the 2006 Outback Bowl, it wasn't going to happen here.
I'd expect this to be OSU fans' perspective, whether Gundy deserves it or not (I think he's had a pretty solid career for the Cowboys, overall). I'm sure OSU fans were't real pleased to be leading CMU by only 3 at home with time running out, in the first place. That was probably the basis of most of their frustration, regardless of the controversial last-second fluke play.
Interesting. i wonder who the B12 replay officials were at the game. Of course now Walter Anderson(an NFL official) who is B12 supervisor is going to take the heat. When Walt was calling HS ball in Houston long ago I ran some chains for his crew when I used to officiate
Big 12 officials not off to a good start. They missed the targeting call in the Texas/ND game (big 12 replay official). And now this.
But to be honest mistakes will happen and it sucks. I could see this happening at a lower level game where they don't have the replay option.
Officiating is a tough gig and it seems like more and more they are being called out more and more. I know of several guys who have given it up purely because they hate being in the publics eye. They do it because they love to be around the game, but when they are being chased off the field and people posting their photos to social media calling for their jobs/families/and etc to be harmed, then its out of control.
But to be honest mistakes will happen and it sucks. I could see this happening at a lower level game where they don't have the replay option.
Officiating is a tough gig and it seems like more and more they are being called out more and more. I know of several guys who have given it up purely because they hate being in the publics eye. They do it because they love to be around the game, but when they are being chased off the field and people posting their photos to social media calling for their jobs/families/and etc to be harmed, then its out of control.
