Chicago and the White Sox in serious discussions for a new baseball only stadium downtown.

[lucas80]

It's an intriguing site. Close to downtown, and well served by multiple CTA lines concerns about parking could be alleviated.
I do have to give Jerry Reinsdorf credit for being a master at leveraging Chicago against other cities.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-...-78-site-south-loop-related-midwest-reinsdorf

 

[JRHawk2003]

If I was the City I would let them walk. What did they do for the neighborhood they were in? Zip for 30 years.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Google 1331 S Lumber St

1331 s lumber st chicago il - Google Search

 

[Rifler]

Good idea,.. Sox need a new stadium in a better location.

 

[jawatkins]

If I was the City I would let them walk. What did they do for the neighborhood they were in? Zip for 30 years.

They put up those pinwheel things.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Good idea,.. Sox need a new stadium in a better location.

Nashville?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

If I was the City I would let them walk. What did they do for the neighborhood they were in? Zip for 30 years.

The area is a shithole. Last time while we were walking through the parking lots there was a punk peddling a community newspaper. He didn't like us turning him down.

 

[Rifler]

Nashville?

Phuck that...

 

[joelbc1]

Wow! Kansas City and now Chicago? WS Stadium isn’t that old a facility, either. Will the move change the White Sox Rep as Chicago's “Southside” team?

 

[DeangeloVickers]

If I was the City I would let them walk. What did they do for the neighborhood they were in? Zip for 30 years.

Weird take. What's the team supposed to do? They generate ridiculous revenue for the city and a lot of jobs for the area. It's the teams fault the city wastes the revenue instead of reinvesting it in the neighborhoods near the stadium? It wasn't always a gang and poverty wasteland and the team certainly isn't to blame for what became of those neighborhoods.
That said, the area isn't nearly as bad as it was in the 80s and 90s.

 

[Rifler]

Wow! Kansas City and now Chicago? WS Stadium isn’t that old a facility, either. Will the move change the White Sox Rep as Chicago's “Southside” team?

White Sox current stadium is the Walmart of stadiums,.. it's crap, in a crap location.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Weird take. What's the team supposed to do? They generate ridiculous revenue for the city and a lot of jobs for the area. It's the teams fault the city wastes the revenue instead of reinvesting it in the neighborhoods near the stadium? It wasn't always a gang and poverty wasteland and the team certainly isn't to blame for what became of those neighborhoods.
That said, the area isn't nearly as bad as it was in the 80s and 90s.

What revenue for the City? They pay rent to the State of Illinois. Sales taxes?

 

[JRHawk2003]

White Sox current stadium is the Walmart of stadiums,.. it's crap, in a crap location.

Its better now than it was, which makes this move all the more puzzling. I would let them go.

 

[Rifler]

What revenue for the City? They pay rent to the State of Illinois. Sales taxes?

The revenue that would become nonexistent were the Sox to leave,... that revenue.

 

[Rifler]

Its better now than it was, which makes this move all the more puzzling. I would let them go.

I'm sure you would,.. Thanks for solidifying my position.

 

[ThorneStockton]

I like the idea of packing a few beers on to a water taxi rather than the red line, even easier bike ride too

 

[JRHawk2003]

The revenue that would become nonexistent were the Sox to leave,... that revenue.

So you have no idea what you are talking about basically?

You cant quantify the revenue.

 

[Rifler]

So you have no idea what you are talking about basically?

You cant quantify the revenue.

Are you licensed to act like a clown or are you just a clown in training?....

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

The area is a shithole. Last time while we were walking through the parking lots there was a punk peddling a community newspaper. He didn't like us turning him down.

ZOMG!!! Someone tried to sell you a newspaper?!? Did you call the police??

 

[JRHawk2003]

Are you licensed to act like a clown or are you just a clown in training?....

I didnt see a number in there of how much money the City of Chicago is getting.

You got that number or not?

 

[hawkirugged17]

 

[ThorneStockton]

ZOMG!!! Someone tried to sell you a newspaper?!? Did you call the police??

Not just someone - a punk - anyone care to guess what sort of person Northern had to experience?!?

 

[JRHawk2003]

Not just someone - a punk - anyone care to guess what sort of person Northern had to experience?!?

Like the guys who sell Streetwise on the CTA?

 

[bhawk24bob]

lol at Chicago fans getting excited about this, Reinsdorf isn’t going to pay for a stadium

 

[joelbc1]

White Sox current stadium is the Walmart of stadiums,.. it's crap, in a crap location.

It’s location is shaky...I thought the stadium was pretty nice...that’s where I watched a game once with Bob Grimm, Moose Skowron and my brother on Sunday...from the (vacant) Spanish speaking radio box....

 

[Tom Paris]

White Sox current stadium is the Walmart of stadiums,.. it's crap, in a crap location.

They built it right before all the cool looking stadiums were built. I don't hate it like others do - mostly because of the food - but it's not in a good area.

 

[Rifler]

They built it right before all the cool looking stadiums were built. I don't hate it like others do - mostly because of the food - but it's not in a good area.

This is exactly correct,.. It was built just before the advent of modern stadium design..

 

[JRHawk2003]

Its way better now than it was. The big project buildings are gone.

 

[95Hawk]

Not just someone - a punk - anyone care to guess what sort of person Northern had to experience?!?

Like the guys who sell Streetwise on the CTA?

Scary shit, particularly if you’re the Michael Bolton that doesn’t suck.

 

[Tom Paris]

This is exactly correct,.. It was built just before the advent of modern stadium design..

I remember opening day and thinking, "Meh." I heard the upper deck described perfectly today - "You needed a sherpa to get up to your seats."

 

[ping72]

They built it right before all the cool looking stadiums were built. I don't hate it like others do - mostly because of the food - but it's not in a good area.

I didn’t think the White Sox stadium was all that bad either.

I also didn’t think the location was terrible. I’d rather hang out there than after a Bulls game.

 

[Rifler]

I didn’t think the White Sox stadium was all that bad either. I also didn’t think the location was terrible. I’d rather hang out there than after a Bulls game.

Old Comiskey was more enjoyable...

 

[JRHawk2003]

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

They built it right before all the cool looking stadiums were built. I don't hate it like others do - mostly because of the food - but it's not in a good area.

This is exactly correct,.. It was built just before the advent of modern stadium design..

I believe the Sox brass turned down a design from the same architect that did Camden.

 

[JRHawk2003]

 

[Rifler]

I believe the Sox brass turned down a design from the same architect that did Camden.

I could easily believe this,.. Worst management in the MLB...

 

[bhawk24bob]

This is exactly correct,.. It was built just before the advent of modern stadium design..

It was built at the same time as Camden yards, the Sox were given an option for a retro style park, and reinsdorf/eindhorn went with Comiskey 2 because it accommodated a second level of skyboxes. So rather than set the standard, they went for the cash grab and Baltimore set the standard instead.

 

[AuroraHawk]

This is exactly correct,.. It was built just before the advent of modern stadium design..

Not exactly correct. Reinsdorf was presented with proposed plans that would have made the new Sox park the second "retro" style park after Camden Yards. Reinsdorf didn't like the idea and reportedly told the designers that the idea of "retro" parks would never catch on.

EDIT: Should have read the whole thread before posting.

 

[JRHawk2003]

The things Reinsdorf doesnt get, such as Retro Parks or Jason Benetti, sure seem to cost the team....

 

[TC Nole OX]

The Comiskey effect: Can MLB revive what it lost in the retro building boom?​

The Comiskey effect: Can MLB revive what it lost in the retro building boom?

CHICAGO - During the last season of Comiskey Park's existence, its replacement was rising adjacent to it.As Comiskey's final months ticked away in 1990, the new stadium's giant concrete grandstands began to take shape, eventually towering over the old ballpark across 35th Street on the south...

www.thescore.com