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Clinton's Emails (Yea, I know)

Jan Itor

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Question: Putting aside the classified when they were sent or received argument, aren't the emails the FBI are and aren't releasing these days ones that they had to retrieve from the server after it had been "wiped clean"?

If so, wouldn't that mean that Hillary, or someone in her camp, deleted official emails along with personal emails? And if so, isn't that illegal? Aren't they supposed to hand over business related emails (all of them) when they leave office?
 
Jan Itor said:
Question: Putting aside the classified when they were sent or received argument, aren't the emails the FBI are and aren't releasing these days ones that they had to retrieve from the server after it had been "wiped clean"?

If so, wouldn't that mean that Hillary, or someone in her camp, deleted official emails along with personal emails? And if so, isn't that illegal? Aren't they supposed to hand over business related emails (all of them) when they leave office?
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Admittedly, I haven't kept entirely up to date, but the claim was that Hillary (or her minions) only deleted personal emails. At least that was the claim.
 
Actually, the emails being withheld as well as the 1500+ that have been classified, are from the 55,000 pages she provided to the State Dept. According to reports, the FBI has been retrieving deleted emails from her server but we have no info (yet) about the level of classification those may or may not have. The decision to indict or not will depend mostly on what the FBI finds in the 30,000+ deleted emails along with the 22 top secret or above chains found in her disclosed batch, IMHO.
 
Jan Itor said:
Question: Putting aside the classified when they were sent or received argument, aren't the emails the FBI are and aren't releasing these days ones that they had to retrieve from the server after it had been "wiped clean"?

If so, wouldn't that mean that Hillary, or someone in her camp, deleted official emails along with personal emails? And if so, isn't that illegal? Aren't they supposed to hand over business related emails (all of them) when they leave office?
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I'm confused by what you mean when you say the FBI is releasing emails. Comey has been quite clear that the FBI is releasing no information until the investigation is over.
 
I have zero respect, I mean zero, for anyone who would vote for that woman.
 
But she stuck by her man!!!!!!!!! Did you see the look in Bill's eyes during her great victory speech in Iowa? You can tell he really loves her.
 
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What difference does it make? It was only 4 lives. A small price to pay for the Democrats ideology!! I mean, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

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Herkmeister said:
What difference does it make? It was only 4 lives. A small price to pay for the Democrats ideology!! I mean, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

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Can't believe you guys are still using this after she owned you on Benghazi.
 
No way she is the only crusty old politician that doesn't understand email. I'd bet at least 90% of those dirty old bastards have downloaded spyware via porn banners in the last week.
 
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Huey Grey said:
I'm confused by what you mean when you say the FBI is releasing emails. Comey has been quite clear that the FBI is releasing no information until the investigation is over.
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Okay, the emails that are being released by the agency releasing them.
 
Not a big Hillary fan but thus far it is uncertain that the newly classified emails they have found, should have been classified at the time they were being sent. If the investigation does decide they should have been, Hillary is in trouble. It is these reclassified emails that the FBI is not going to release due to sensitive information.
 
h-hawk said:
Not a big Hillary fan but thus far it is uncertain that the newly classified emails they have found, should have been classified at the time they were being sent. If the investigation does decide they should have been, Hillary is in trouble. It is these reclassified emails that the FBI is not going to release due to sensitive information.
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The investigation isn't even about Hillary. The FBI said as much. It's hard to take this thing seriously when the only updates we get are from people not even involved with the investigation. Yawn.
 
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Yeah, it's not about Hillary - it's about her server. I wonder if the server has lawyered up yet? Do you think the server will take the 5th? If convicted, will her server lose it's gov't pension? I heard the FBI is considering granting immunity to her Blackberry in hopes that it will rollover and provide information so they can indict her router.
 
Greenway12 said:
Yeah, it's not about Hillary - it's about her server. I wonder if the server has lawyered up yet? Do you think the server will take the 5th? If convicted, will her server lose it's gov't pension? I heard the FBI is considering granting immunity to her Blackberry in hopes that it will rollover and provide information so they can indict her router.
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This is what I tried to tell him last week. He's such an idiot, poor thing doesn't even realize it.
 
h-hawk said:
Not a big Hillary fan but thus far it is uncertain that the newly classified emails they have found, should have been classified at the time they were being sent. If the investigation does decide they should have been, Hillary is in trouble. It is these reclassified emails that the FBI is not going to release due to sensitive information.
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No, that's just back-asswards. You could say that about some of the earlier ones, but these are the most sensitive yet -- which is why the State Department won't release them, even in redacted form. Some of these most recent ones deal with operations in the field, sources & agents.
 
There's at least 22 emails that are classified as beyond TOP SECRET, and that's according to the STATE DEPARTMENT.
Wake up people.

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Having your assistants remove the classification and\or snapshot the document and send it by other means is not the proper way to handle sensitive electronic communications.
 
Vroom_C14 said:
Having your assistants remove the classification and\or snapshot the document and send it by other means is not the proper way to handle sensitive electronic communications.
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Except, according to executive order and federal law, the Secretary of State has the authority to classify and declassify documents that originate in the office of the Secretary of State. In any event, here is an interesting article from the Washington Post concerning the troubles that Hillary has. In particular, the idiosyncrasies of the State Department email system and the classification system. Something I did not know, if this same information had been transmitted across the state.gov system, the same problems would exist.

Note this statement that should not be ignored. If Hillary goes down, do Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell have to go down as well? In any event, I don't think it is nearly the cut and dried case that many on the right are making this out to be. We will see.

NBC News reported that the State Department Inspector General concluded that classified information also had been transmitted over the personal email accounts of Clinton’s predecessors, Condoleezza Rice and Colin L. Powell.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ret-emails-end-up-on-hillary-clintons-server/
 
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theiacowtipper said:
Except, according to executive order and federal law, the Secretary of State has the authority to classify and declassify documents that originate in the office of the Secretary of State. In any event, here is an interesting article from the Washington Post concerning the troubles that Hillary has. In particular, the idiosyncrasies of the State Department email system and the classification system. Something I did not know, if this same information had been transmitted across the state.gov system, the same problems would exist.

Note this statement that should not be ignored. If Hillary goes down, do Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell have to go down as well? In any event, I don't think it is nearly the cut and dried case that many on the right are making this out to be. We will see.

NBC News reported that the State Department Inspector General concluded that classified information also had been transmitted over the personal email accounts of Clinton’s predecessors, Condoleezza Rice and Colin L. Powell.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ret-emails-end-up-on-hillary-clintons-server/
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Of course it is not "cut and dried" as many here claim. It is however the only strategy the Party of No has to reclaim the White House in this next election cycle. There is a chance Hillary gets busted by the FBI. There is a far better chance she doesn't. We shall see what we shall see when we see it.
 
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theiacowtipper said:
Except, according to executive order and federal law, the Secretary of State has the authority to classify and declassify documents that originate in the office of the Secretary of State. In any event, here is an interesting article from the Washington Post concerning the troubles that Hillary has. In particular, the idiosyncrasies of the State Department email system and the classification system. Something I did not know, if this same information had been transmitted across the state.gov system, the same problems would exist.

Note this statement that should not be ignored. If Hillary goes down, do Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell have to go down as well? In any event, I don't think it is nearly the cut and dried case that many on the right are making this out to be. We will see.

NBC News reported that the State Department Inspector General concluded that classified information also had been transmitted over the personal email accounts of Clinton’s predecessors, Condoleezza Rice and Colin L. Powell.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ret-emails-end-up-on-hillary-clintons-server/
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Most of her communications were not spawned from her Office, they were received and then forwarded. If the others broke the law, then yes they should be punished as well. Although I am guessing that their emails are long gone by now (well I guess Hillary's are too, at least the ones she didn't want anyone seeing...)
 
Vroom_C14 said:
Most of her communications were not spawned from her Office, they were received and then forwarded. If the others broke the law, then yes they should be punished as well. Although I am guessing that their emails are long gone by now (well I guess Hillary's are too, at least the ones she didn't want anyone seeing...)
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How do you know this (bolded)? Have you read her emails? My understanding is that most were generated from State. Certainly, at least according to my linked article, the one she has been accused of ordering a classification change for was generated by State, and that change was in her prerogative as Secretary of State.

In the 24 hour news cycle of today, things are taken out of context and blown completely out of proportion. Is it fair that Hillary is being targeted for something that was precedent set by previous secretaries? If she is charged, you can bet you butt her defense team will bring that up. I would assume that since the inspector general issued that report, he has some sort of proof of emails from previous secretaries that exist.

I would ask my friends on the right, could you serve on an impartial jury that charged Hillary with violations of security laws?
 
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joelbc1 said:
Of course it is not "cut and dried" as many here claim. It is however the only strategy the Party of No has to reclaim the White House in this next election cycle. There is a chance Hillary gets busted by the FBI. There is a far better chance she doesn't. We shall see what we shall see when we see it.
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And the point is that the right wins either way. If she is convicted she is gone as a candidate. If she isn't charged it is because of a corrupt DOJ.
 
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But isn't whether or not charges are to be going to be the decision of the FBI Director's recommendation? It is the FBI who's ramrodding this investigation, right?
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You think the investigation is worthless?
 
Vroom_C14 said:
Most of her communications were not spawned from her Office, they were received and then forwarded. If the others broke the law, then yes they should be punished as well. Although I am guessing that their emails are long gone by now (well I guess Hillary's are too, at least the ones she didn't want anyone seeing...)
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Punished why? What laws did she break?
 
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