Correct call was made.
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Does not say 'correct call was made'. Says it 'was handled right'......big difference.
I think some people misinterpreted the official statements from what I'm seeing here as to say if there was any contact (even after he went out of bounds) the call that was made couldn't be overturned. But couldn't it also have been saying that they didn't have any video evidence showing that there was no video showing what happened before the player went out of bounds to offer clear evidence that there the player went out of bounds before any contact was made? I would like to think that whether or not there was contact made AFTER the player went out of bounds on his own accord, that the play should have at that point already have been dead, since the player already would have went out of bounds on his own accord. But the excuse that there was no valid video evidence to provide proof of what really happened before he went out of bounds to counter the referee's call I think may have been what the Big Ten Office was trying to say, not that a call made for contact after the player being out of bounds disallows any overriding of the call. I think initial video replays made it pretty clear that there was some content at the point the player was already out of bounds, so if the rule was for any contact even after the player was out of bounds, then there doesn't seem like a lot of reason to review the play then does there?
I've seen worse contact get called for illegal touching on the offense. I will leave it at that.
Sorry, that is not at all what that article said. It just restated that the proper procedure was followed. But said once again, replay couldn't overrule a judgement call. It gave no indication that the judgement was the correct call, which to anybody outside of Lincoln, it was not. But if you keep repeating it, you may actually believe that it was the correct call.
The judgement call is the degree which contact was made. Contact was made by the defender which activates the rule. There is no degree component. So know the rule and have your recievers get back onto the field and fight for the ball. The DB did his job and Reilly did his job. Reilly just wanted the ball more then Sparty who fell down before finishing the job. Moral of the story... FINISH.
This.
Red Rover, you are wrong. Now, don't you have a sister to kiss somewhere? Head on back over to your board.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/10/10/9494699/nebraska-loss-wisconsin-final-score
Clearly Nebraska knows how to finish...
BYU, Miami, Illinois and Wisconsin.
4 late losses this year, looks like they "fell down before finishing the job. Moral of the story."
I am glad the skirts won. Now as long as OSU beats MSU the Hawks will most likely be playing for at least a Rose Bowl birth when we play the skirts.
Red the only one you are convincing is yourself. In the end it doesn't matter. It will go down in the books as a UNL win. There is nothing anybody can do about that. But it was a crap judgment. The only "contact" I saw was initiated by the UNL WR. MSU certainly owns the loss as it should have never gotten that far. No team should go 90 yards in a matter of seconds unless the other team just forget to play defense. Which is apparently what happened. But no doubt, UNL was aided greatly by a "judgment" call that was extremely favorable to them. If you were on the receiving end of this crap judgment, your entire board would be screaming bloody murder and claiming a conspiracy against the good people of Lincoln land. Judgment calls happen. That's part of the game. But this was a bad one. And the link you provided, despite what you may think, doesn't dispute that.
Per the rule it was the correct call. Problem is the ref made the wrong judgment call in hindsight. Obviously he wasn't forced out of bounds if you look at it logically, but not all rules in sports are logical.
Yes there is. The rule says the player must be out "due to contact". If there is contact but the player isn't out "due to contact", the player can't re-establish himself in bounds.
MSU certainly owns the loss as it should have never gotten that far.
MSU went 3 and out on their last series, with 3 runs. Another example of teams trying not to lose by being afraid to put the ball in the air. It happens everywhere including my teams. Seen it a thousasnd times.
MSU went 3 and out on their last series, with 3 runs. Another example of teams trying not to lose by being afraid to put the ball in the air. It happens everywhere including my teams. Seen it a thousasnd times.
Great point. Sparty really came unglued at the end of the game. All the focus is on the out of bounds play. But Sparty...
1. Penalty stops the clock on Sparty.
2. Dropped an interception in the endzone.
3. DB fell down defending Reilly.
4. Cook throws the ball out after bobble.
Now that's a complete meltdown.
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According to their fans, Michigan State has never lost a close game where they didn't get screwed by the refs.
I think it would of been easier to handle had the refs thrown the flag. IF the refs throws the flag and allows the play to continue, then they could of looked at it and possibly picked up the flag and over-turned the call.
Im sorry but a player being "forced out" and "guided out" are two different things. That receiver did not know where he was at on the field and actually went out on his own. Hat should of been down and once he touched the ball the flag should of been out. If the DB was facing him and hitting him out of bounds, okay then you have a hat down and no flag because he was "forced out"
I think it was a poor non-call. Tough break for Sparty.
Im sorry but a player being "forced out" and "guided out" are two different things. That receiver did not know where he was at on the field and actually went out on his own. Hat should of been down and once he touched the ball the flag should of been out. If the DB was facing him and hitting him out of bounds, okay then you have a hat down and no flag because he was "forced out"
I think it was a poor non-call. Tough break for Sparty.
The hat was thrown, the proper mechanics were followed, the proper review mechanics were followed.
One side judge standing at the goal line, on the field of play, watching the play transpire in real time (not getting to watch 5 different angles in slow motion), saw the WR be guided out of bounds by a DB who had his hand/forearm on the receiver, and made the split second call that he was forced out.
This call happens in basically every college football game that is played. Perhaps his judgement was wrong. But everything else was correctly followed to the T.
People need to get a grip and educate themselves. Instead they'll just yell and scream, because most people are idiots, and want to be uneducated.
One side judge standing at the goal line, on the field of play, watching the play transpire in real time (not getting to watch 5 different angles in slow motion), saw the WR be guided out of bounds by a DB who had his hand/forearm on the receiver, and made the split second call that he was forced out.
This call happens in basically every college football game that is played. Perhaps his judgement was wrong. But everything else was correctly followed to the T.
People need to get a grip and educate themselves. Instead they'll just yell and scream, because most people are idiots, and want to be uneducated.
While I agree with you, I think that the Sidejudge needs to learn the definition of being forced out. I realize this DB was running stride for stride with the WR and while yes the DB & WR had some contact, that was not what caused the WR to go out of bounds. The WR simply lost track of where he was at on the field and just ran out of bounds. The DB had his hands on him to "guide" the DB where the WR was. He wasn't pushing him.
Actually I think the refs could of called a personal foul on the DB, because he was contacting the WR out of bounds and technically that is a PF for hitting out of bounds i do believe.
Im sorry but most officials deem "forced out" as being jammed at the line of scrimmage and being forced to change your route, due to the defender jamming, hitting you off of the LOS. You see it a lot of times on Punts and teams that play aggressive defense. That is what most people assume being forced out means.
This was just a simple case of a player losing track of where they were on the field and MSU got punished for it. Tough break, hopefully in the off-season the NCAA will alter their review policy and allow for some of these things to be reviewed in the future.
