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Trump's problem was trying to downplay the pandemic because it would hurt his reelection chances. It's really that simple.

If he would have acknowledged it right away, he would have been reelected in a landslide.
Damn why didn't he have you as a campaign manager?
 
Yep, this is w

Trump's problem was trying to downplay the pandemic because it would hurt his reelection chances. It's really that simple.

If he would have acknowledged it right away, he would have been reelected in a landslide.
he downplayed it so much he shut the economy down and had the development of the vac started.
 
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he downplayed it so much he shut the economy down and had the development of the vac started.
You do remember what a cluster%$@# the distribution plan was, right? Same as the PPE deal where he was looking for States to kiss his ass to get stuff.

Just admit that he lost the election because of his Covid handling and this will be more understandable to you.
 
Pelosi downplayed it. Start at 1:30 mark.


Biden was in LaLa Land too.

Lots of goodies in here.

But as we’ve written, Biden didn’t say in the op-ed that the outbreak was already a pandemic. He said it was a “possibility.” He said Trump was not prepared to lead the country through a “global health challenge,” which Biden did predict would “get worse before it gets better.” (The World Health Organization didn’t declare COVID-19 a pandemic until March 11.) In fact, a month after that op-ed, Biden still said it wasn’t yet a pandemic. “Folks, we can beat this virus. We can keep it from being a pandemic,” Biden said at a a campaign rally on Feb. 28. “But it takes a lot of work.”
 
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You do remember what a cluster%$@# the distribution plan was, right? Same as the PPE deal where he was looking for States to kiss his ass to get stuff.

Just admit that he lost the election because of his Covid handling and this will be more understandable to you.
the distribution was happening until sleepy joe came out of his basement. you watch way too much of the liberal fake news outlets. PPP, yeah like NY wanting 4000 ventilators, another intake center, and a hospital ship which weren’t used. California as well. joe would still be trying to read his notes to see what his handlers want him to say.
 
Yep, this is w

Trump's problem was trying to downplay the pandemic because it would hurt his reelection chances. It's really that simple.

If he would have acknowledged it right away, he would have been reelected in a landslide.
Although there is no clearly definitive answer to this topic, it is important to consider all costs associated with this pandemic. That may be a more suitable topic for this thread! What are the unspoken opportunity costs of this pandemic in economic terms?


In microeconomic theory, the opportunity costof a particular activity option is the loss of value or benefit that would be incurred (the cost) by engaging in that activity, relative to engaging in an alternative activity offering a higher return in value or benefit.

In basic equation form, opportunity cost can be defined as:

Opportunity Cost = (returns on best Forgone Option) - (returns on Chosen Option)[1]
Directly or indirectly, opportunity cost underpins the majority of day-to-day economic decisions that are made in society.[citation needed][dubiousdiscuss] For example, the opportunity cost of mowing one’s own lawn for a doctor or a lawyer (who might otherwise make $100 an hour if they elected to work overtime during that time instead) would be higher than for a minimum-wage employee (who in the United States might earn $7.25 an hour), which would make the former more likely to hire someone else to mow their lawn for them.
 
Well, in the end there are only so many people willing to sell out their country and destroy a democracy under false pretense. And that’s the bottom of societies barrel, imo.
you really want to say that with hillary paying for fraudulent documents and hunter getting paid for access to his dad? but then if you only watch cnn you probably don’t get that news? one more thing as far as destroying our democracy……biden’s nominee for director of the currency was educated in Russia and advocates for the removal of our current banking system making it completely government controlled ….that sound like any other country?
 
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you really want to say that with hillary paying for fraudulent documents and hunter getting paid for access to his dad? but then if you only watch cnn you probably don’t get that news? one more thing as far as destroying our democracy……biden’s nominee for director of the currency was educated in Russia and advocates for the removal of our current banking system making it completely government controlled ….that sound like any other country?
Educated in Russia? Is that like T-Rump sucking (up to) Putin? If you only get your news from fringe websites, then you'll believe any lie that they spread.
 
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Educated in Russia? Is that like T-Rump sucking (up to) Putin? If you only get your news from fringe websites, then you'll believe any lie that they spread.
Yep, that guy must love Newsmax and Brietbart.

Real reputable sources.
 
Yep, that guy must love Newsmax and Brietbart.

Real reputable sources.
Come on Mitch. You are suppose to be smarter than this. If it is something you don't like, attack the info with facts. Attacking the messenger makes you look uneducated.
 
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Why is this even an issue anymore, Hell even Biden himself who got the most votes of any president in history endorsed "Lets go Brandon" less than a week ago, I for one agree with anything he fully endorses...and as a drifter who comes here for relevant talk....lets get Back to Wrestling Please!!!!

 
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Well this got out of hand quickly. We should change this threads name to trash fire of the month, only problem with that idea is that there have been several.

Here’s a hint guys… no one gives a shit about politics. Save it all of you. You’re not changing anyone’s mind.

Covid sucks, but it sucks worse having a thread like this every week. I come here to discuss wrestling and forget about crap like covid, work, and most other things. So, let’s change the damn subject and jump off this merry-go-round of political bs.
 
you really want to say that with hillary paying for fraudulent documents and hunter getting paid for access to his dad? but then if you only watch cnn you probably don’t get that news? one more thing as far as destroying our democracy……biden’s nominee for director of the currency was educated in Russia and advocates for the removal of our current banking system making it completely government controlled ….that sound like any other country?
You’re so full of shite it’s unreal.
 
It’s been around for 2 years. We know more than a little about it at this point. One of the biggest sins committed by our leaders—and there are plenty—is that they do a poor job of evolving and changing their messaging as new things are learned and prior things disproven. They allow these misnomers to stay in the public eye instead of resetting the table and sending clear messages. This leads to distrust and fuels the crazies more than anything else.

The vaccine is incredibly effective against the worst effects of covid. A near supermajority of Americans are vaccinated yet a clear supermajority of the most sick are not. That’s not a coincidence.

Whether you take the vaccine or not, that’s your call in my opinion—the government shouldn’t require it. Make the best decision for you. But for the love of all things holy, don’t become a mouthpiece for misinformation. It doesn’t help the cause.

Here’s a great example of what I’m talking about. This isn’t new information. It’s easily 18 months or more old. But we stuck with it. Through both White Houses.

 
you really want to say that with hillary paying for fraudulent documents and hunter getting paid for access to his dad? but then if you only watch cnn you probably don’t get that news? one more thing as far as destroying our democracy……biden’s nominee for director of the currency was educated in Russia and advocates for the removal of our current banking system making it completely government controlled ….that sound like any other country?
Your guy was a Russian operative. He gave state secrets to the Russians. He was a cad and fraud. A circus barker. A molester of women. A liar and thief.
 
Here I thought you were a moral, classy, caring kind of guy. 🤣
not in the least..... I’m exactly the kind of guy you shouldn’t piss off..... a grumpy old son of a bitch that don’t give a shit.... and you are like a pestilent child just trying you’re damndest to do that.... fing idiot..... I’m done responding to your stupidity
that make you happy?
 
This is what the anti vaxxers don't understand. The purpose isn't necessarily to stop from getting Covid, it's to help prevent hospitalization and/or death.

Spreading Covid to those with compromised immune systems is another purpose, but many on the Right are too selfish to consider that.

What is puzzling to me from your post is you admit people get Covid after having three shots. After having the shots and then getting Covid they may not get hospitalized but they can still spread Covid to those with compromised immune systems. So is getting Covid and having antibodies not the end to the means as in herd immunity?
Some of this logic around the new variant is quite unbelievable. Still a crap shoot in Vegas for most people isn't it?
 
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not in the least..... I’m exactly the kind of guy you shouldn’t piss off..... a grumpy old son of a bitch that don’t give a shit.... and you are like a pestilent child just trying you’re damndest to do that.... fing idiot..... I’m done responding to your stupidity
that make you happy?
Pestilent? Whoa. I was thinking petulant at worst.
 
Don’t confuse me with a rich big grain farmer ! Lol. I’m just a dumb dirt business owner who really likes to hunt big deer. And nowhere in this world is better than the southern Hawkeye state for that ! I love Iowa and if it weren’t for my business would live there in a heartbeat.
the deer have covid now. please mask up brother
 
I got nothin for this dumpster fire. But I like quotes and wanted to share some that seemed relevant (and I need at least 1 Like to boost my ratings).

1. When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?

2. We 'prove' what we want to prove, and the real difficulty is to know what we want to prove, and why.

3. The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest one to fool.

4. It's usually impossible to use logic to talk somebody out of something that logic did not talk them in to in the first place.

5. What you believe can influence what you remember.

6. We prefer to believe what we prefer to be true.

7. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.

Long live the cesspool.

Go Hawks.
 
You’re so full of shite it’s unreal.
don’t like the facts I see. problem with most liberals they want and expect all their rights but if you disagree you of course get censored or called names,,,,you fit right in
 
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don’t like the facts I see. problem with most liberals they want and expect all their rights but if you disagree you of course get censored or called names,,,,you fit right in
The fact is your guy lost an election and then led to a seditious uprising against a duly elected government.

The fact is some of you guys have been radicalized by your moral-less leader and have been duped into believing treasonous lies.
 
The fact is your guy lost an election and then led to a seditious uprising against a duly elected government.

The fact is some of you guys have been radicalized by your moral-less leader and have been duped into believing treasonous lies.
facts are: I’m not a huge Trump fan, Hillary has been PROVEN to be a crook yet your liberal media ignores it. Joe withheld aid and bragged about it while hunter was on the board of the energy company that was being investigated. everything you say are your opinions and you are entitled to them but calling those who don’t agree with you names does not change the facts. lastly, I do not agree with riots wether in DC or anyplace in the US including Seattle.
 
The fact is your guy lost an election and then led to a seditious uprising against a duly elected government.
Let me know when there is actually evidence. I never heard of a "seditious uprising" where the folks were not armed.
The fact is some of you guys have been radicalized by your moral-less leader and have been duped into believing treasonous lies.
"moral-less leader" Does it bother you concerning the morals of Biden, Obama, and Clintons?
I don't know what "treasonous lies" means. Be specific.
 
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facts are: I’m not a huge Trump fan, Hillary has been PROVEN to be a crook yet your liberal media ignores it. Joe withheld aid and bragged about it while hunter was on the board of the energy company that was being investigated. everything you say are your opinions and you are entitled to them but calling those who don’t agree with you names does not change the facts. lastly, I do not agree with riots wether in DC or anyplace in the US including Seattle.
Hillary lost the election and has been out of politics for over 5 years so how is she relevant to any current political discussion?

Unlike the nepotism of the last administration, Hunter Biden does not hold a political office, so again, how is he relevant to any current political discussion?

The far right media continues to get you guys triggered over things that are have no political merit. There are plenty of legitimate things to criticize the current administration about but focusing on Clinton and Hunter is just a red hearing at this point.

As for the "riots", it is rather dubious to compare what happened in Seattle with the mob that stormed our nation's capital to stop the certification of an election while chanting hang Mike Pence and Nancy Peloisi.
 
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Hillary lost the election and has been out of politics for over 5 years so how is she relevant to any current political discussion?
Seems how the far left always talks about Trump, the recent Trump presidency is of current value. 5 years is very recent and apropos. I fully understand why you want to sweep it under the rug. ;)
Unlike the nepotism of the last administration, Hunter Biden does not hold a political office, so again, how is he relevant to any current political discussion?
Influence and blackmail by our enemies is certainly on the table. Creepy Uncle Joe has been taking bribes under the table. This makes him "compromised". EXTREMELY DANGEROUS situation.
 
Seems how the far left always talks about Trump, the recent Trump presidency is of current value. 5 years is very recent and apropos. I fully understand why you want to sweep it under the rug. ;)

Influence and blackmail by our enemies is certainly on the table. Creepy Uncle Joe has been taking bribes under the table. This makes him "compromised". EXTREMELY DANGEROUS situation.
If it weren’t for double standards, these maniacs wouldn’t have any standards at all.
 
Help spread covid. Do your part. Go get vaccinated.


Dec 10 (Reuters) - Most of the 43 COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variant identified in the United States so far were in people who were fully vaccinated, and a third of them had received a booster dose, according to a U.S. report published on Friday.

BTW - new reports say the same.
Amazing! Again someone posts a study that they did not read. This study only included 43 cases early in the omicron spread. Study concluded Dec 10. Over half of these people had traveled overseas where they contracted the disease. That , of course, is a typical sample of people to test. It is still true that over 80% of hospitalized Covid patients are unvaccinated even though the unvaccinated in the age group most hospitalized only accounts for 30%? Thus, 30% of the people account for 80% of the hospitaled.
Help spread covid. Do your part. Go get vaccinated.


Dec 10 (Reuters) - Most of the 43 COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variant identified in the United States so far were in people who were fully vaccinated, and a third of them had received a booster dose, according to a U.S. report published on Friday.

BTW - new reports say the same.
 
I don’t know why people keep pushing this BS. It has been absolutely proven that the vaccinated are just as likely to contract covid. They are just as likely to spread covid. The vaccine appears to lessen symptoms and reduce the likelihood of hospitalization and death. If we could stick to facts I think we would have a better chance at getting vaccine hesitant people that really could benefit from the shot to get it. My dad won’t take it because he sees the lies being spread (vaccinated less likely to spread it) and he assumes it’s all lies. Why is it so hard to stick to facts and avoid blatant lies? I know we are being force fed lies on both sides but if we could get to some type of independent thought that might just help.
Not true. The fully vaccinated are less likely to get Covid and less likely to spread it.
 
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This is what vaxxers don't understand - Spreading Covid to those with compromised immune systems is still a problem, but many on the Left are too selfish to consider that. They don't think that they can spread covid. Those with a compromised immune system should get the vaccine because everyone is a spreader.

Again another great study put out by that fine medical journal called Rogue Review which happens to be a right wing antivaxer online site.
 
I got nothin for this dumpster fire. But I like quotes and wanted to share some that seemed relevant (and I need at least 1 Like to boost my ratings).

1. When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?

2. We 'prove' what we want to prove, and the real difficulty is to know what we want to prove, and why.

3. The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest one to fool.

4. It's usually impossible to use logic to talk somebody out of something that logic did not talk them in to in the first place.

5. What you believe can influence what you remember.

6. We prefer to believe what we prefer to be true.

7. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.

Long live the cesspool.

Go Hawks.
That's why all the media combined has us at each other's throats....very sad!
 
Pelosi downplayed it. Start at 1:30 mark.


Biden was in LaLa Land too.

Lots of goodies in here.

But as we’ve written, Biden didn’t say in the op-ed that the outbreak was already a pandemic. He said it was a “possibility.” He said Trump was not prepared to lead the country through a “global health challenge,” which Biden did predict would “get worse before it gets better.” (The World Health Organization didn’t declare COVID-19 a pandemic until March 11.) In fact, a month after that op-ed, Biden still said it wasn’t yet a pandemic. “Folks, we can beat this virus. We can keep it from being a pandemic,” Biden said at a a campaign rally on Feb. 28. “But it takes a lot of work.”
And he would have right if all people had gotten the vaccine. Three hundred thousand people would not have died.
 
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