Why do parental wishes matter about this medical decision, but not when the choice is about gender affirmation decisions?
Court rules that Idaho can enforce its travel ban for abortions.
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When I was a teenager, I needed absolutely zero further motivation to bone. Neither a lack of rubbers nor a moat filled with rabid crocodiles would have stopped me. Raging hormonal sex drives are going to win, might as well encourage safe practices.Partially, but that may encourage teens to bone because they think they're safe.
The only 100% safe sex is abstinence.
Just saying.
The DNC literally had abortion trailers outside of their convention. Shut the fvck up.
Yes. You triggered a lack of sorrow to see you leave. Sorry I couldn’t better conform my response to your semi literacy.
Sorry to hear about your feral youth. Hopefully you were placed in good foster care at some point.
No gender affirmations decisions are happening outside of parental wishes. In states where abortion is legal, do you think parents should be able to force a minor to have one if the minor doesn't want to abort the fetus?
Give it time. Baby steps, so to speak. The goal is state control of the uterus of any woman of child bearing age. Your gang is playing the long game here.
It's ok. I have really low expectations as it relates to maga and literacy.
That one probably sounded better when it was still inside your head. Poor little man.
Well...I made a true statement.
Birth control fails sometimes.
Just ask OP's Mom.
Yawn. It was better when you killed hookers. This is just mediocre shit along with your vaccine and religion posts to try to get a rise out of people. You're the 2nd worst kind of attention whore just missing out on @Whiskeydeltadeltatango
My posts in this thread, vaccines and religion are completely serious. I don't troll.
I stopped debating posters almost entirely in 2022 after reading this article.
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No. So you're admitting that the situations are different. What was the point of your original statement conflating the two?
So wrong. Ask Jesus mother Mary.Partially, but that may encourage teens to bone because they think they're safe.
The only 100% safe sex is abstinence.
Just saying.
My posts in this thread, vaccines and religion are completely serious. I don't troll.
I stopped debating posters almost entirely in 2022 after reading this article.
Arguing Is Pointless
It was lunchtime and the seven of us — two kids and five adults — would be in the car for the next three hours as we drove from New York City to upstate Connecticut for the weekend. We decided to get some takeout at a place on the corner of 88th and Broadway. I […]
Thanks for your perspective.
Well then you haven't encountered a pregnant 13 year old raped by her uncle or a 15 year old nearly beaten to death by her drunk, abusive father.
No, the 2nd is a crime now that the dumb, Jesus freaks have taken over and made laws about it.
The situations are different, but both are about parental rights. Idaho criminalizes a minor leaving the state for an abortion without parental consent, but also has a law banning gender affirming care for minors even with parental consent. Both are laws are supposedly protecting children, but the reality is they are about imposing an version of what some believe are "Christian" values.
You don't like the idea of a parent forcing a minor to abort a fetus, but you are totally on board with a parent forcing a minor to carry the fetus to term. These choices should be made jointly by parents, minors, and doctors. The state should have no role in these personal medical decisions.
"These choices should be made jointly by parents, minors and doctors"
That's what this thread is about. The law stops minors from getting abortions without parental consent or even knowledge of the event. Glad you agree with it.
In most cases, I think parents should have a voice in a minor's decision to abort a fetus. So do you agree that the law against minors receiving gender affirming care even with parental consent is wrong?
No, not really. I don't have strong feelings but I think permanent changes should not be done to minors even with parental consent.
To be fair though, I don't think minors should have abortions even with parental consent either unless it's rape, incest or the life of the mother is in danger.
I think your opinion is based on your moral beliefs rather than worry about permanent changes. Nothing could be a more permanently life changing than forcing a minor to give birth to an unwanted pregnancy.
This doesn't exactly feel like freedom. Are there going to be checkpoints on state lines now like they had in Eastern Bloc countries?
It’s weird how you pretend to care about the teen or adult and how little you care about the start of a human life.
For the record, I believe the expecting mother should have the choice but I really get a kick out of dems lately saying they care.
They claim they care about the mother in this situation but don’t give a shit about the unborn child.
They claim they care about women’s right yet want guys to be able to play female sports. Face it, youre the same as 90 percent of American’s, you only care about yourself and what you THINK is right.
I like how you state that you don't really have a strong feeling about something, then state an absolutist position. You've made your position on trans citizens of all ages quite clear.
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Sometimes parental consent is impossible. Lots of scumbags pimp out their daughters/step daughters. Or the child wives still happen in more remote areas.
Partially, but that may encourage teens to bone because they think they're safe.
The only 100% safe sex is abstinence.
Just saying.
Umm nature itself encourages teens to bone.
Not saying that adults should just go ahead and encourage them to do it. But to prepare them for adulthood, EVEN if they wait til marriage they should have all the information.
I would also encourage talk about the side effects and risks of hormonal birth control as when I was a kid I don't think that was covered very heavily.
WTF are you talking about?
So if YOUR pregnant, 13 year old daughter was raped by her uncle and wanted an abortion, you don't want to know about it?
You ****ing moron.
My point is that it's not something I'm going to go scream from the mountain tops like I might for other things. I have an opinion on it but I don't feel strongly enough to sit and argue about it.
And I don't think I mentioned any ages other than minors so whatever else you're reading in to what I wrote is your invention.
