Starting 5/Rotation given CURRENT Roster? Is SCHEDULE Toughest in History? IOWA #16(USA Today)
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I does look like Jbo, CJ, Weezy & Garza might be locks now.
Kriener as the 5th starter; that would be interesting; I do think he has great skills; it will be interesting to see which of Kriener/Pemsl/Nunge starts
right now do you see anyone Fran can afford to redshirt? can we afford to be under 10 scholarship players as far as players available? i think that would be too risky because injuries will likely happen
I honestly think Fran has to find someone from the transfer portal; only problem is that player might want to see major minutes and Fran might not (probably doe not) have that for him
I like your 11 man depth chart (10 scholarship players plus Till, a walk on).
I agree that 3 starters are locks:
J Bo
Weezy
Garza
Leistikow of HawkCentral/the Des Moines Register seems to think CJ will be the 2 based on what he has heard.
So the only starter to figure out is the 4; do you want Nunge, Pemsl, or Kriener? All bring something to the table.
interesting you have CMac starting.
USA Today had them at #16 in the country before the Moss announcement.
Do we really go from #16 in the country to out of the Big Dance? Hope not!
I had not thought about Connor starting at PG; that would be an interesting starting 5.
I hope he gets some shots up this summer, especially since he will be playing baseball in New York over the summer.
- 4 African-Americans on scholarship last year
- 1 redshirted and 3 transferred or declared early without clear path to NBA
Is it just some sort of weird coincidence that Iowa football and Iowa basketball are the whitest P5 teams in the country, year in and year out?
- 1 redshirted and 3 transferred or declared early without clear path to NBA
Is it just some sort of weird coincidence that Iowa football and Iowa basketball are the whitest P5 teams in the country, year in and year out?
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yeah, based on what is out there on highlight tapes, JoeT looks too good to sit, especially what he does offensively
how is he defensively? can he stay in front of the guy he's guarding? I hope so!
Will JoeT start at PG where JBo can move to the 2? Will be interesting to see.
Or is CJFredrick as good as rumored where JBo starts at PG and CJF starts at the 2, with JoeT coming off the bench for energy?
Will JoeT eat into Connor's minutes?
JoeT looks like a tough kid who won't back down; Iowa needs that
i hope Connor makes time/has time to get shots up in the offseason; he is playing baseball for Iowa now & once the Iowa baseball season is over he will head to New York to play baseball thru early August
So we can go 17-14 and make it in with NET
What the monkeys??? USA T ranks us Top 16..........we are already in
the Big Dance !!
Or, maybe they will make us play the games...........
Medical, not a red shirt. Technicality, I know, but one requires NCAA approval.
I stand corrected, but that's besides the point that nobody seems to want to address.
You are trying to make this about race. I don't believe these kids are leaving because of race issues, at least not with the staff or the team. They all have their reasons, for sure, but not what you are pushing. Think about it
I'm not pushing that they left because of race issues, but it certainly seems odd to me that 3 AA scholarship players out of the 4 decided to hightail it out of here before their eligibility was up.
What I'm asking is why Iowa's football and basketball team consistently carry a disproportionate amount of white kids compared to every P5 school in the nation. I believe there is premeditation behind the racial makeups of both sport's rosters, particularly in football. If you guys don't agree, that's fine. Just one man's opinion.
The football team isn't any whiter than say Wisconsin or Northwestern. You have to look at where Iowa is getting the majority of its players from. The midwest and especially Iowa. If the University was in say Alabama, the makeup of the roster would look a lot different.
Same with the basketball team. look at the amount of Iowans on it this past year. Bohannon, Baer, Wieskamp, Kriener, Connor, the walk ons.
I believe I read where Leistikow had JBo at the 1. Unsure though how it will play out, especially with CJ playing. Regardless, Fran has some good options.
#16 based on Cook not coming back & Moss coming backWhat the monkeys??? USA T ranks us Top 16..........we are already in
the Big Dance !!
now we have lost 2 starters & our 6th man
I agree with you.
Of the 4 departures:
1) Baer graduated
2) Cook wants to be paid; he wanted to be gone last year
3) Dailey was a back up; but the Dolph comments probably did not help
4) Moss is the only head scratcher; he is a 3 year starter; what could he be looking for that he already does not have?
Chad thinks CFJ will start based on what he's heard.
So that would mean JBo, CJF, Weezy and Garza penciled in as starters.
So the only question is who starts in place of Cook? Pemsl, Kriener or Nunge?
Its gonna be an interesting jig saw puzzle for me...I mean, for Fran to figure out.
If we don't add a grad transfer (who can play immediately) in the spring/summer, I don't see how anyone can redshirt because right now we are down to 10 scholarship players plus Till (would be needed, like last year, for a few minutes when anyone gets in foul trouble).
How about a supportive fan base?
McC has been Moss's biggest cheerleader since he stepped on campus.
If Moss (or any player for that matter) acted like Fran on the court, all of you would be begging for him to transfer. Fran's antics are a disgrace and I'm willing to bet that his outbursts are not limited to just refs. Some people don't like to be coached like that.
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McC is not all that different from most D1 coaches. I think you are pushing it a little on this one.
My starting 5 and rotations next season:
Bohannon
C Mccaffery
Wieskamp
Pemsl
Garza
Guards who rotate in - Toussaint, Fredrick
Wing - P Mccaffery
Forwards/Centers - Kriener, Nunge, Till
That is a thin rotation, but IF there are no complications, it could work very well. Iowa has enough depth inside with Garza, Pemsl, Kriener, and Nunge where hopefully they can avoid foul trouble. Till is strictly a last ditch option in B1G games, at least based on what I have seen to date.
I am more worried about shooting guard and wing depth. A lot of unproven players there that will be heavily depended on. One thing is for certain - all scholarship players will see floor time.
Bohannon
C Mccaffery
Wieskamp
Pemsl
Garza
Guards who rotate in - Toussaint, Fredrick
Wing - P Mccaffery
Forwards/Centers - Kriener, Nunge, Till
That is a thin rotation, but IF there are no complications, it could work very well. Iowa has enough depth inside with Garza, Pemsl, Kriener, and Nunge where hopefully they can avoid foul trouble. Till is strictly a last ditch option in B1G games, at least based on what I have seen to date.
I am more worried about shooting guard and wing depth. A lot of unproven players there that will be heavily depended on. One thing is for certain - all scholarship players will see floor time.
Yes, Iowa could. But it would take some luck and definitely improvement by the existing players, and help from the new kids.
JoBo
CJF
Weezy
Luka
Pemsl, Kriener, Nunge
Conner first guard off bench with two of the three above and that 8 def finishes top 6 in the league. Offense goes through Luka and Joe. JoBo and CJF on the 3 line.
CJF
Weezy
Luka
Pemsl, Kriener, Nunge
Conner first guard off bench with two of the three above and that 8 def finishes top 6 in the league. Offense goes through Luka and Joe. JoBo and CJF on the 3 line.
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I think it's important to remember that before Moss' departure, USA Today pegged Iowa as the #16 team in the country.
USA Today knew Baer was gone; they knew Cook was very likely gone, too.
Will the Moss loss have that big of an impact? Will Iowa plummet in the rankings by losing Moss?
It's early but from what I have heard, CJ Fredrick is ready to step in.
We have 10 on scholarship plus Till, who played when a big got in foul trouble.
Everyone complains when the rotation is too big; with the current 11 man roster, there should not be many complaints when Fran is forced to use a shorter rotation.
I am excited to see what Nunge looks like after a red shirt season.
I am also excited to see how Pemsl looks coming off surgery.
It could be a fun mix of Nunge/Pemsl/Kreiner/Garza playing the 4/5.
May 15, 2019 UPDATE:
The 2019-2020 Roster:
On May 2, Moss announced he was transferring.
Tyler Cook is skipping his senior year to pursue his NBA dreams.
On May 15, Riley Till was put on scholarship.
BEFORE THE MOSS TRANSFER & WHEN I WAS STILL HOPING COOK WOULD COME BACK, I was thinking preseason that we were looking at a top 10 team. Our 13 man (minus Dailey but including Cook and Moss) scholarship roster WAS loaded with talent and experience. Could we stay in the top 10 WAS the question.
We are now down to 11 on scholarship; how many of the 2 remaining scholarships will Fran try to fill?
Current Roster (11 currently on scholarship; 2 scholarships available):
2023 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'4" SG CJ Fredrick (***); in early Nov, 2018, was decided CJ would redshirt the 2018-2019 season
6'6" SF Patrick McCaffery (****)
5'10" PG Joe Toussaint (***)
2022 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'5" SG Joe Wieskamp (****)
6'5" SG Connor McCaffery (****; announced on Apr 28, 2017 that he will play baseball in the Spring of 2018 and redshirt in basketball in the fall of 2017; ended up, however, playing in 4 games in Dec 2017 as a true freshman, mostly because of the Christian Williams departure; however, after missing two games due to a sprained ankle, eight contests due to mononucleosis, and 19 games after undergoing a tonsillectomy in December, 2017, he was granted a hardship waiver on March 26, 2018, where he will have 4 years of basketball eligibility remaining; on April 11, 2018, Connor was put on scholarship).
6'9" F Jack Nunge (***); in early Nov, 2018, was decided Jack would redshirt the 2018-2019 season
2021 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'10" C Luke Garza (****)
6'8" SF Cordell Pemsl (***); had surgery on his knee Dec 18, 2018, which caused him to miss the remainder of the 2018-2019 season; was scheduled to graduate in 2020; since he played in just two games in the 2018-2019 season (logging a total of just 31 minutes), he will be granted a medical redshirt for an additional year.
6'6" Riley Till (redshirted in 2016-2017). On May 15, 2019, was put on scholarship.
2020 (when scheduled to graduate): 2 players
6'9" PF Ryan Kriener (***)
6'0" PG Jordan Bohannon (***)
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Notable Walk on players:
2021 (when scheduled to graduate): 1 player
6'2" Guard Austin Ash
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The 2019-2020 Schedule:
Read these 2 tweets. Note that Fran says the schedule will be toughest ever in the history of Iowa basketball. Do you agree?
Looks like this is our 11 game nonconference schedule:
1. S. Illinois
2. Prelim Las Vegas Invite home game
3. Prelim Las Vegas Invite home game
4. Creighton, Las Vegas Invite
5. SD State or Texas Tech, Las Vegas Invite
6. Iowa State
7. Oral Roberts
8. Cincinnati (played in Chicago)
9. Kennesaw St
10. B1G / ACC Challenge game
11. Big East team (part of Gavitt Games)
And here is our 20 GAME CONFERENCE SCHEDULE:
CLICK ON IMAGE FOR LARGER VIEW
Iowa is #16 in the Country heading into 2019-2020, per USA Today.
Here's their take:
16. Iowa (23-12). There's a strong possibility leading scorer Tyler Cook turns pro, but coach Fran McCaffery has enough coming back to contend for a Big Ten title. Forward Luka Garza will be back and sharpshooter Jordan Bohannon is among a group of elite guards returning.
LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ollege-basketball-top-25-rankings/3381228002/
Iowa is #17 heading into 2019-2020, per CBS Sports
Here's their take:
IOWA
Coach: Fran McCaffery
2018-19 record: 23-12
Notable players definitely gone: Nicolas Baer
Other expected departures: Tyler Cook
Notable players expected to return:
Jordan Bohannon ,
Luka Garza ,
Ryan Kriener ,
Connor McCaffery ,
Isaiah Moss ,
Joe Wieskamp ,
Jack Nunge ,
Cordell Pemsl
Expected additions: Patrick McCaffery, Joe Toussaint
LINK to their Top 25 & 1:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...never-too-early-top-25-and-1-for-next-season/
Iowa is #21 heading into 2019-2020, per Sporting News
Here's their take:
#21: Iowa Hawkeyes
2018-19 record and finish:
23-12, NCAA second round
Key players:
PG Jordan Bohannon,
C Luka Garza,
SG Joe Wieskamp,
SG Isaiah Moss,
G Connor McCaffery,
C Ryan Kriener,
PF Cordell Pemsl
Top-100 recruits:
SF Pat McCaffery (247Sports No. 71)
Key decisions:
PF Tyler Cook is not a projected first-round pick, but did go through the early entry process in 2018.
LINK to the ENTIRE Top 25: http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...top-25-for-2019-20/1oplcsov8ioxf18ydgei068fyp
The 2019-2020 Roster:
On May 2, Moss announced he was transferring.
Tyler Cook is skipping his senior year to pursue his NBA dreams.
On May 15, Riley Till was put on scholarship.
BEFORE THE MOSS TRANSFER & WHEN I WAS STILL HOPING COOK WOULD COME BACK, I was thinking preseason that we were looking at a top 10 team. Our 13 man (minus Dailey but including Cook and Moss) scholarship roster WAS loaded with talent and experience. Could we stay in the top 10 WAS the question.
We are now down to 11 on scholarship; how many of the 2 remaining scholarships will Fran try to fill?
Current Roster (11 currently on scholarship; 2 scholarships available):
2023 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'4" SG CJ Fredrick (***); in early Nov, 2018, was decided CJ would redshirt the 2018-2019 season
6'6" SF Patrick McCaffery (****)
5'10" PG Joe Toussaint (***)
2022 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'5" SG Joe Wieskamp (****)
6'5" SG Connor McCaffery (****; announced on Apr 28, 2017 that he will play baseball in the Spring of 2018 and redshirt in basketball in the fall of 2017; ended up, however, playing in 4 games in Dec 2017 as a true freshman, mostly because of the Christian Williams departure; however, after missing two games due to a sprained ankle, eight contests due to mononucleosis, and 19 games after undergoing a tonsillectomy in December, 2017, he was granted a hardship waiver on March 26, 2018, where he will have 4 years of basketball eligibility remaining; on April 11, 2018, Connor was put on scholarship).
6'9" F Jack Nunge (***); in early Nov, 2018, was decided Jack would redshirt the 2018-2019 season
2021 (when scheduled to graduate): 3 players
6'10" C Luke Garza (****)
6'8" SF Cordell Pemsl (***); had surgery on his knee Dec 18, 2018, which caused him to miss the remainder of the 2018-2019 season; was scheduled to graduate in 2020; since he played in just two games in the 2018-2019 season (logging a total of just 31 minutes), he will be granted a medical redshirt for an additional year.
6'6" Riley Till (redshirted in 2016-2017). On May 15, 2019, was put on scholarship.
2020 (when scheduled to graduate): 2 players
6'9" PF Ryan Kriener (***)
6'0" PG Jordan Bohannon (***)
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Notable Walk on players:
2021 (when scheduled to graduate): 1 player
6'2" Guard Austin Ash
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The 2019-2020 Schedule:
Read these 2 tweets. Note that Fran says the schedule will be toughest ever in the history of Iowa basketball. Do you agree?
Looks like this is our 11 game nonconference schedule:
1. S. Illinois
2. Prelim Las Vegas Invite home game
3. Prelim Las Vegas Invite home game
4. Creighton, Las Vegas Invite
5. SD State or Texas Tech, Las Vegas Invite
6. Iowa State
7. Oral Roberts
8. Cincinnati (played in Chicago)
9. Kennesaw St
10. B1G / ACC Challenge game
11. Big East team (part of Gavitt Games)
And here is our 20 GAME CONFERENCE SCHEDULE:
CLICK ON IMAGE FOR LARGER VIEW
Iowa is #16 in the Country heading into 2019-2020, per USA Today.
Here's their take:
16. Iowa (23-12). There's a strong possibility leading scorer Tyler Cook turns pro, but coach Fran McCaffery has enough coming back to contend for a Big Ten title. Forward Luka Garza will be back and sharpshooter Jordan Bohannon is among a group of elite guards returning.
LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ollege-basketball-top-25-rankings/3381228002/
Iowa is #17 heading into 2019-2020, per CBS Sports
Here's their take:
IOWA
Coach: Fran McCaffery
2018-19 record: 23-12
Notable players definitely gone: Nicolas Baer
Other expected departures: Tyler Cook
Notable players expected to return:
Jordan Bohannon ,
Luka Garza ,
Ryan Kriener ,
Connor McCaffery ,
Isaiah Moss ,
Joe Wieskamp ,
Jack Nunge ,
Cordell Pemsl
Expected additions: Patrick McCaffery, Joe Toussaint
LINK to their Top 25 & 1:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...never-too-early-top-25-and-1-for-next-season/
Iowa is #21 heading into 2019-2020, per Sporting News
Here's their take:
#21: Iowa Hawkeyes
2018-19 record and finish:
23-12, NCAA second round
Key players:
PG Jordan Bohannon,
C Luka Garza,
SG Joe Wieskamp,
SG Isaiah Moss,
G Connor McCaffery,
C Ryan Kriener,
PF Cordell Pemsl
Top-100 recruits:
SF Pat McCaffery (247Sports No. 71)
Key decisions:
PF Tyler Cook is not a projected first-round pick, but did go through the early entry process in 2018.
LINK to the ENTIRE Top 25: http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...top-25-for-2019-20/1oplcsov8ioxf18ydgei068fyp
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Bart Torvik, who really became a favorite of mine last year, would preseason tab Iowa at #46. Obviously this is going to be fluid as rosters fill out and schedules are completed.
http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php
Nunge and Garza together, Pemsl and RK together. That gives two sets of guys with low post ability and a reasonable shooter.
CJ, Weez and Jordan raining from outside.
Weez can drive so if CJ can drive as well in occasions they will be tough.
If Joe has the D people talk about it will be fun to see him torment the PG while giving Jordan a blow. Tenderize the opponent a bit for him. CM can backup either spot and if he preps a bit on shooting there wont be a drop off.
He's pushing it more than a little. I have known plenty of kids, including myself back in the day, that had high school coaches with many more outbursts than Fran. Any kid that hasn't experienced it to some extent is living a charmed (and sheltered) life.
