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Dawn Staley blaming Iowa loss on scheduling

Smart enough to not specifically say this, but still unable to digest the fact Iowa knocked them off.

How about the fact that SC played every round up to the FF in their home state, while Iowa was on the road in Seattle for the SS and E8. I agree with you that she still can't get over the fact that they lost to a team with, in her mind, vastly inferior talent.
 
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If the Hawks had had a day less of rest then SC before playing them and lost, 97% of posters here would be bitching about it.

It's a legitimate complaint, the brackets should be designed that teams get an equal numbers of days off before the elite 8 games. If the NCAA is more concerned about TV $, then they should be transparent about it.
 
It's a legitimate complaint, the brackets should be designed that teams get an equal numbers of days off before the elite 8 games. If the NCAA is more concerned about TV $, then they should be transparent about it.
Thank goodness Miami and Jim Larrañaga are not complaining that they got screwed by having to play UCONN in the Final Four on only 5 days rest, compared to the 6 days rest that UCONN got. It is also fortunate that San Diego State was somehow able to overcome the injustice of having to play in the Final Four on 5 days rest, when FAU got 6 days rest. Alternatively, perhaps FAU would have played better had they not had to deal with an additional day of distractions before the Final Four. Maybe the extra day of rest hurt FAU.

The idea that competitive fairness requires an equal number of days of rest is absurd, and completely contrary to the scheduling of college (and pro) basketball. Big Ten teams routinely play conference games where one team has had more days rest than the other team. Should that practice also be banned? South Carolina got to play 4 NCAA games in South Carolina, and then had 3 days rest before playing Iowa. I like Dawn Staley, but her complaints about NCAA tournament scheduling are really off the mark.

Edit: In 2022, when South Carolina won the National Championship, South Carolina had 4 days rest before playing Louisville in the Final Four, who was playing on 3 days rest. But according to the logic of Staley's current complaint about mistreatment of the overall # 1 seed in the 2023 tournament, that unequal treatment of Louisville in 2022 was justified and appropriate because South Carolina, as the # 1 overall seed, should be given favorable scheduling treatment. When you re-read Staley's current complaint, she is not complaining about any inherent unfairness of unequal number of rest days, rather she is complaining that South Carolina should have been the team with more days rest, instead of Iowa, because they deserved that as the # 1 seed. That makes her already weak position even worse.
 
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If the Hawks had had a day less of rest then SC before playing them and lost, 97% of posters here would be bitching about it.

It's a legitimate complaint, the brackets should be designed that teams get an equal numbers of days off before the elite 8 games. If the NCAA is more concerned about TV $, then they should be transparent about it.
Yeah and their travel was brutal. Give me a break. 20 year olds having 4 days off with basically no travel! Cry me a fricking river.
 
If the Hawks had had a day less of rest then SC before playing them and lost, 97% of posters here would be bitching about it.

It's a legitimate complaint, the brackets should be designed that teams get an equal numbers of days off before the elite 8 games. If the NCAA is more concerned about TV $, then they should be transparent about it.
It appears that at least 97% of posters here disagree with you.
 
She just can't get over it because Iowa didn't just beat SC, they clowned Staley as a coach.

She was so used to everyone fawning over her. Coach of Team USA. 42 game win streak. And Iowa had the audacity to pack in their defense and say, "Your team can't shoot." And Staley couldn't adjust.

Her in-game coaching is overrated. Much of her success stems from building teams that are just way, way bigger than their opponents.

Lisa Bluder coached circles around her, and she knows it.
 
If the Hawks had had a day less of rest then SC before playing them and lost, 97% of posters here would be bitching about it.

It's a legitimate complaint, the brackets should be designed that teams get an equal numbers of days off before the elite 8 games. If the NCAA is more concerned about TV $, then they should be transparent about it.
Your comment is not legit because she's talking days off before final 4 and this "scheduling" has existed for mens and womens for what, 40 years?
 
They were outcoached

Quick example is the posts looking like deer in headlights in first half every time they touched the ball getting double teamed. They turned the ball over again and again.

Might want to practice what happens in a double team situation next time there coach.

Resulted in possibly season high 15 TOs.
 
Just such a bad look for her. Just take the L and move on. She's always saying she's not complaining or not making excuses but in fact that's all she's doing. You're the top program in the country. Act like it.
Correct! ^^ She can sure assemble a roster of talented players, that's for sure. But I really cannot think of a time that one coach, Bluder, so thoroughly outcoached the other coach, Staley, AND they didn't adjust in game, as to that Iowa v. SC WBB game.

Immediately after the game she tried to infer that there was some racial component to their loss, there wasn't. Two months later she is pointing at the schedule.

As others have said...take the "L", learn from it and move on. Continued excuse making, no matter how delicately you try to preface it, just takes away from your accomplishments.
 
I added this to my earlier post, but thought the incongruity between 2022 and 2023 might be deserving of its own post.

In 2022, when South Carolina won the National Championship, South Carolina had 4 days rest before playing Louisville in the Final Four, who was playing on 3 days rest. But according to the logic of Staley's current complaint about mistreatment of the overall # 1 seed in the 2023 tournament, that unequal treatment of Louisville in 2022 was justified and appropriate because South Carolina, as the # 1 overall seed in 2022, should be given favorable scheduling treatment. When you re-read Staley's current complaint, she is not complaining about any inherent unfairness of unequal number of rest days, rather she is complaining that South Carolina should have been the team with more days rest, instead of Iowa, because they deserved that as the overall # 1 seed. That makes her already weak position even worse.
 
If the Hawks had had a day less of rest then SC before playing them and lost, 97% of posters here would be bitching about it.

It's a legitimate complaint, the brackets should be designed that teams get an equal numbers of days off before the elite 8 games. If the NCAA is more concerned about TV $, then they should be transparent about it.
Not trying to pile on, but in the 2022 tournament Creighton played the first game in the first round and Iowa played the second. Iowa then had less than a 48 hour turnaround to the second game where Creighton won. I don't recall anyone complaining that Creighton got more rest than Iowa.
 
The Women Hawks won 3 games in 3 days to win the Big Ten Tourney. Mar 3, 4, & 5th 2023.

In 2022, the Men Hawks won 4 games in 4 straight days to win the Mens Tourney.

4 or 5 days rest won’t make any difference for conditioned college kids. Someone needs to pull Staley aside and reel her back in from the excuses.
 
The Women Hawks won 3 games in 3 days to win the Big Ten Tourney. Mar 3, 4, & 5th 2023.

In 2022, the Men Hawks won 4 games in 4 straight days to win the Mens Tourney.

4 or 5 days rest won’t make any difference for conditioned college kids. Someone needs to pull Staley aside and reel her back in from the excuses.
Don’t take away her deck of victim cards.
 
If the Hawks had had a day less of rest then SC before playing them and lost, 97% of posters here would be bitching about it.

It's a legitimate complaint, the brackets should be designed that teams get an equal numbers of days off before the elite 8 games. If the NCAA is more concerned about TV $, then they should be transparent about it.
If you want fair then you don't get to play on your home court like they did! If other teams have to go on the road for some of their games then so should they. It's probably she's mad at getting beat by an almost white team?
 
Baffling that this type of thing bothers people. Dawn, first of all, isn’t blaming her team’s loss on scheduling. Secondly, Iowa fans absolutely should be able to sympathize, given the shit scheduling and locationing typically “awarded” to our men’s team in the NCAA tournament — of course this past tournament following suit.

Big deal. She wants equal days off, and thinks the tournament admins should do everything possible to maintain that.
 
.. . . Big deal. She wants equal days off, and thinks the tournament admins should do everything possible to maintain that.
She isn’t campaigning for equal days off (which would hurt ratings). She thinks the # 1 overall seed should get the benefit of more days off, just like 2022, when Louisville got 3 days off and South Carolina had 4 days off. She wants benefits as the # 1 seed, not equality:

“I talked to the ESPN people and and NCAA people about our tournament and specifically us not having the proper recovery time being the No. 1 overall seed.”

She isn’t saying get rid of the Friday-Sunday and Saturday-Monday format.

“We talked about that — why we played the Saturday-Monday game (in the Sweet 16 and Elite Eight) versus the Friday-Sunday game.”

She wants favorable treatment as the # 1 overall seed, not a change in format:

“I broke our tournament down where we were placed and things that we did over the course of a season which, we were the No. 1 overall seed. If there are going to be some advantages and benefits, then it should have come to us.”
 
She isn’t campaigning for equal days off (which would hurt ratings). She thinks the # 1 overall seed should get the benefit of more days off, just like 2022, when Louisville got 3 days off and South Carolina had 4 days off. She wants benefits as the # 1 seed, not equality:

“I talked to the ESPN people and and NCAA people about our tournament and specifically us not having the proper recovery time being the No. 1 overall seed.”

She isn’t saying get rid of the Friday-Sunday and Saturday-Monday format.

“We talked about that — why we played the Saturday-Monday game (in the Sweet 16 and Elite Eight) versus the Friday-Sunday game.”

She wants favorable treatment as the # 1 overall seed, not a change in format:

“I broke our tournament down where we were placed and things that we did over the course of a season which, we were the No. 1 overall seed. If there are going to be some advantages and benefits, then it should have come to us.”
Lol. She’s not asking for more recovery time than anyone else. She’s using being the #1 seed to suggest being the 1 seed shouldn’t come with recovery time disadvantage. If you can find her saying the 1 seed should get MORE recovery time than other seeds, your point will be made.

If Fran says, yeah, it’s sorta shitty being the higher seed and having to go play essentially a true road game, nobody takes issue. Nor should they. Hopefully he follows it with something like, that’s the tournament, it’s imperfect, but that’s also what makes it so cool.

Look, I’m not pro or anti Staley. I just don’t understand labeling this type of statement as “blaming” nor do I think she’s wrong. Ideally, to whatever extent possible, opponents get equal recovery time, seeding be damned.
 
Basketball is a game you can play the next day without needing much in the way of recovery. I seriously doubt there exists a tangible benefit to playing 4 days later as opposed to 3.

The problem is Staley is absolutely using it as an excuse, just like she tried to blame the way the game was officiated on their loss right after the game. Just like she tried to throw Bluder under the bus in the postgame press conference, implying her (Bluder's) "barfight" comment was in the same vein as calling her players monkeys or thugs.

She probably would be complaining if her team had gotten the 4 days' rest instead of 3, claiming the break made her team more rusty than Iowa's.

That's what we're objecting to: she doesn't know how to lose without blaming external factors. There is no way in her universe that our team, who in reality beat her team in the most straight up of fashions, could have possibly won that game without some unfair advantage. She is the epitome of a sore loser.
 
. . . If you can find her saying the 1 seed should get MORE recovery time than other seeds, your point will be made.
"If there are going to be some advantages and benefits, then it should have come to us.” She's saying, if you're going to have the Friday-Sunday and Saturday-Monday format for regionals before the Final Four, which is the best ratings format for WBB, and which she isn't saying should be changed, then South Carolina should have played in the Friday-Sunday games as the # 1 overall seed. Just like 2022, when South Carolina had 4 days off before playing Louisville in the Final Four, and Louisville only had 3 days off. But Jeff Walz didn't complaint and whine, like Staley is doing now.
 
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"If there are going to be some advantages and benefits, then it should have come to us.” She's saying, if you're going to have the Friday-Sunday and Saturday-Monday format for regionals before the Final Four, which is the best ratings format for WBB, and which she isn't saying should be changed, then South Carolina should have played in the Friday-Sunday games as the # 1 overall seed. Just like 2022, when South Carolina had 4 days off before playing Louisville in the Final Four, and Louisville only had 3 days off. But Jeff Walz didn't complaint and whine, like Staley is doing now.
She’s not wrong. Look this ain’t my style either but she’s not wrong.
 
If you need to say

“And it’s not that I’m a sore loser…”

Then you ARE a sore loser. What an embarassment. Glad we have Coach Bluder.
Exactly right. Just like the people that say' no disrespect" and then they do exactly that. I don't get the love here from some for Staley either. She showed her true colors several times in the week surrounding the game. Making up phatom issues about Bluder, the refs, and other nonsense. She did herself no favors throughout. She is obviously a very good coach, but its time she knock that chip off her shoulder.
 
I remember thinking early on that was not a good matchup for SC early on in the game.
They couldn't keep up with the speed, LSD could.
 
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Not a single person has agreed with any of your posts in this thread. Why do you think that is?
Because people like to be triggered? Because people don’t like Dawn Staley?

Are you in disagreement that, to whatever extent possible, NCAA tournament opponents should have equal recovery time?
 
Because people like to be triggered? Because people don’t like Dawn Staley?

Are you in disagreement that, to whatever extent possible, NCAA tournament opponents should have equal recovery time?
What does “to whatever extent possible” mean in practical terms. Seems to me it’s all or nothing, because if TV format and ratings matter, then it won’t be equal.
 
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