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Um ... no, coaches didn't run that kid off.
Your right we don't need more athleticism and a type of wr we pretty much never have. He would probably still be riding the pine though.
Spoken like a true KF basher coming out of the woodwork after a loss ... you really have no leg to stand on based on what was documented about the situation.
This line of BS just won't die.
Willies quit
That is an irrefutable fact.
Willies quit
That is an irrefutable fact.
Just curious, but how did KF run Willies off? Willies was playing, then got injuried, then he quit.
He quit with cause. Same as CJ was about to do until the pressure was put on and coach was forced to make a qb change.
What is clear to me is that the Iowa WRs, outside of MVB, are a team weak spot. I seriously doubt the coaches would have the confidence to throw Smith the ball in a crucial situation. Scheel... I will give him the benefit of the doubt because he simply hasn't played much. But if a guy can't get or stay healthy, he's not much of an asset.
It's very puzzling to me that Iowa can't recruit an above average WR because the Hawks have had some very good qbs over the years.
It's very puzzling to me that Iowa can't recruit an above average WR because the Hawks have had some very good qbs over the years.
What is the point of posting a 6 month old article about some kid who is racking up 6 catches so far in the Big 12?
There is never "cause" to quit....Willies wouldn't have helped stop the NDSU running game and he sure as hell wouldn't have helped our offense gain more than 37 yards on the ground (especially since he doesn't run block). You want to complain about those 2 things from this Saturday, sure I get that. But this whole Willies things is just stupid....I will also wait until November to celebrate or hit the panic button....it sucked ass we lost this Saturday, but holy smokes their is a ton of football left, haven't even played a conference game yet. Georgia almost lost to Nichols, Wisconsin beats LSU and almost loses to Georgia State, Tennessee struggles with Ohio, and the list goes on and on....not an isolated thing at Iowa and life goes on
Very true except the reason our D got carved was due to the offense not moving the ball. I think Willies would have been a great weapon for us. My post title was poor choice and I tried editing it but couldn't figure that out. I still think we will win a lot of games.
Lets keep talking about Willies. Great idea, OP. Very constructive thread after a loss.
As if all the other threads on here are constructive. Why don't you start a few threads with the positives of the game? I saw you try putting some of the blame on the fans. Really smart.
That article is from March. He's the 5th leading receiver on a pass heavy Texas Tech team. You know nothing and should be embarrassed to post again.
I'm a big KF fan but as I said at the time Willis left it was handled wrong. A championship coach will find a way to keep the difference makers he needs. He'll do it without the kid even knowing he's doing it.
I see you are ignoring the question. What "cause" did Willies have? He was playing just as much as every other WR not named Martin-Manley or Tevaun Smith.
So once again how did Kirk "force" him out?
I've been able to come to grips with a college coach telling a kid who quit to find another team, yes.
And he really didn't even tell him to find another team. He gave him options and rejoining the team was one. It just was a long and difficult road to get back to being on the team and on good graces. He wasn't willing to work for the team then so it shows he has little work ethic or loyalty
I wish there was another thumbs up button for this post.. Two thumbs way up.. Gotta keep ur talent and if that means helping a kid thru rough times sobeit.. That helps build good player and good men., you'll notice those kind of coaches by seeing the past players that have excelled coming back to the program weather it be on the sidelines during games or talking to current players and vouching for that coach...
Facepalm.
Just let it go.
If you have to reach that far to find a scapegoat for the loss, you've probably pulled some arm or shoulder muscles.
I'm as disappointed and frustrated as the majority of Iowa fans. I find it interesting, however, how this loss (as bad as it was) leads to talk about former players ... and coaches running them off, etc. Willies decided he didn't want to be at Iowa. Simple as that. Willies was not going to change the outcome of the game. We could have Jerry Rice (in his prime) at WR and we still would have lost that game. NDSU dominated us - on both sides of the ball. The O and D lines were manhandled. The better team won.
While I wasn't happy about Willies leaving I doubt he would have made a difference with NDSU lines pushing both of our lines all over the field.
How come you can't accept that he chose not to come back? He quit, and there were conditions for his return that he chose not to take.
Are you still happy that your Clones suck yet again and your girlfriend in now a lesbian after seeing you naked?
Based on what you just wrote, you clearly know nothing about coach Ferentz. Justifying the means to an end has NEVER been part of his behavior. Your opinion about Willies' situation is equally uninformed.
Guys, guys, i think what Championhawk was trying to say is that it was KKFsduty to compromise his values and expectations of his players to keep potential playmakers here. It doesnt matter if the kid hated the team atmosphere or other players being pissed at preferential treatment being thrown Willies way. What matters is that KF let go a potential playmaker. Heck KF shouldve gotten down on his knees the day Willies quit.
For a grand total of 144 yards.
At pass happy, play absolutely zero defense Texas Tech, Willies in three games has all of one start, six receptions and an average of 48 ypg. If he is destined for the NFL, he better get going because time is not his ally.
Give it a friggin rest. The coaches did not rUn Willies off. The team had expectations of him that he failed to meet. That is all there is to it.
