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Democrats, WTF?

Wow. You really are blind.

The Republican Party under Reagan and Bush(s) maintained a worldview that emphasized American leadership on the global stage, whereas under Trump, the focus has most certainly shifted to nationalist isolationism. How do you not see that? Not to mention he's weaponized Christianity.
You’re a very likable poster.

Why argue with an idiot?
 
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I don’t see that as meriting opposition to the bill. In fact, I approve of it. We do not need to meddle in other countries’ justice systems whether there’s issues of corruption or not.

Just as we cannot police the world, we cannot also serve as the world’s appellate court. We have every right to be judicious about those whom we allow to immigrate here and gain citizenship.
If I'm being honest, if I woke up to see this at the border I wouldn't be upset about it.

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What these imbeciles don't understand is I agree we have a yuge problem at the border...I just don't view the issue through the lens of all the "evil brown people are coming to rape, murder and steal."
 
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I hate to break it to you, the Republican party died in 2016. Let me know when it returns. You are now part of the White Nationalist Party.

Here's my voting record:

1992 - George H.W. Bush (Republican)
1996 - Bob Dole (Republican)
2000 - George W. Bush (Republican)
2004 - George W. Bush (Republican)
2008 - John McCain (Republican)
2012 - Mitt Romney (Republican)
2016 - Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
2020 - Abstained
2024 - Chase Oliver (Libertarian)
That looks very similar to my voting record, except I wasn’t old enough to vote until 2000 and I voted Democrat from 2016 to try to save the country (and the Republican Party) from the Trump disaster.

I miss the days the Republican Party was the party of common sense, although I now in hindsight greatly regret supporting the Bush/Cheney foreign policy agenda.
 
That looks very similar to my voting record, except I wasn’t old enough to vote until 2000 and I voted Democrat from 2016 to try to save the country (and the Republican Party) from the Trump disaster.

I miss the days the Republican Party was the party of common sense, although I now in hindsight greatly regret supporting the Bush/Cheney foreign policy agenda.
Ya, I had to endure a lot of the fallout from failed policy that led to OEF and OIF. The IC took it right in the proverbial arse.
 
If I'm being honest, if I woke up to see this at the border I wouldn't be upset about it.

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What these imbeciles don't understand is I agree we have a yuge problem at the border...I just don't view the issue through the lens of all the "evil brown people are coming to rape, murder and steal."
I’m for a secure border as well. That should be priority number one in concert with getting illegals who are violent criminals the **** out.

Mass deportations at this point is a stupid plan that makes no sense economically or pragmatically. But, like you, I understand it’s about pandering to the racist sect within the MAGA base.
 
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Wow. You really are blind.

The Republican Party under Reagan and Bush(s) maintained a worldview that emphasized American leadership on the global stage, whereas under Trump, the focus has most certainly shifted to nationalist isolationism. How do you not see that? Not to mention he's weaponized Christianity.
"Weaponized Christianity"

Lmfao wat
If I'm being honest, if I woke up to see this at the border I wouldn't be upset about it.

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What these imbeciles don't understand is I agree we have a yuge problem at the border...I just don't view the issue through the lens of all the "evil brown people are coming to rape, murder and steal."
You just created your own dialog about all brown people being bad. Literally nobody in this thread has said that.
 
"Weaponized Christianity"

Lmfao wat

You just created your own dialog about all brown people being bad. Literally nobody in this thread has said that.
Do I really have to explain this to you? Okay, here goes... Weaponizing Christianity means using Christian beliefs or symbols to push a political or social agenda, often distorting the faith for power or control. It involves selectively interpreting Christian teachings to justify actions or policies that may not align with the core values of love, compassion, and humility, turning religion into a tool for manipulation.
You just created your own dialog about all brown people being bad. Literally nobody in this thread has said that.

My apologies...I clearly paraphrased Dear Leader. However, if you look at the rhetoric Trump has used, it’s clear that his comments about immigrants and people of color, particularly from Latin America, Africa, and Muslim-majority countries, have typically been generalized and dehumanizing. For instance, he referred to Mexican immigrants as "rapists" and criminals, called certain countries "shitholes," and used terms like "animals" for other groups of immigrants.
 
I don’t see that as meriting opposition to the bill. In fact, I approve of it. We do not need to meddle in other countries’ justice systems whether there’s issues of corruption or not.

Just as we cannot police the world, we cannot also serve as the world’s appellate court. We have every right to be judicious about those whom we allow to immigrate here and gain citizenship.
I didnt say we would or should meddle with other countrie's justice systems but I think we really need to question and be leery of many of the govts and justice systems in south america, even Canada. Let alone trust our own govt and justice system. Have to question them all the time.

I dont want those scofflaws in the country but it is not as black and white as Rep Mace thinks it is. And we already have laws to deport them.

At the same time, I dont know what the reasons were for those Dems who voted against the bill. Did some dems have qualms about trusting other countries, or adjudicating these crimes after admitting the immigrants.

I think these dems who voted NO are opening themselves up for crap come 2026 re-elections. But there are absolutely puking bad Repub politicians who dont seem to get defeated for being morons.

I posted before that it is really really easy to close down our southern border as we have the resources if that is really a top priority. But Repubs want the border problem for their own talking points so will they really want to solve it.

Close it totally down and then slowly open it up to a manageable and wanted amount. Al Queda and their attacks created a new anti-terroist economy and closing the southern border can do the same, even though I wish we had to do either.

And Dems want immigrants, I do want a realistic amount much smaller than it has been.
 
Do I really have to explain this to you? Okay, here goes... Weaponizing Christianity means using Christian beliefs or symbols to push a political or social agenda, often distorting the faith for power or control. It involves selectively interpreting Christian teachings to justify actions or policies that may not align with the core values of love, compassion, and humility, turning religion into a tool for manipulation.


My apologies...I clearly paraphrased Dear Leader. However, if you look at the rhetoric Trump has used, it’s clear that his comments about immigrants and people of color, particularly from Latin America, Africa, and Muslim-majority countries, have typically been generalized and dehumanizing. For instance, he referred to Mexican immigrants as "rapists" and criminals, called certain countries "shitholes," and used terms like "animals" for other groups of immigrants.
Haiti is a shit hole nation. It's currently run by a guy named barbecue. That doesn't make the people from there all shit and I don't believe that has ever been stated. Please supply me with the quote of him saying Mexicans are rapists as a general statement and I will respond
 
Haiti is a shit hole nation. It's currently run by a guy named barbecue. That doesn't make the people from there all shit and I don't believe that has ever been stated. Please supply me with the quote of him saying Mexicans are rapists as a general statement and I will respond
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

I didn't realize Mexico sent people. How does that work? Do they load them on a bus and drive them here?

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Donald Trump vowed to “rescue” the Denver suburb of Aurora, Colorado, from the rapists, “blood thirsty criminals,” and “most violent people on earth” he insists are ruining the “fabric” of the country and its culture: immigrants.
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1. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) – National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS):​

The NCVS is one of the main sources of information on the demographic characteristics of perpetrators and victims of sexual assault. Based on the NCVS (2019), the following trends were found:
  • Racial breakdown of offenders: Data from the NCVS, which surveys victims of crime, shows that a significant percentage of sexual assaults were committed by individuals of the same race as the victim. This means that White offenders often commit sexual assault against White victims, Black offenders against Black victims, and so on. The racial composition of perpetrators largely reflects the demographic makeup of the population.
    • White offenders: According to NCVS data, White perpetrators account for about 60% of all sexual assaults reported.
    • Black offenders: Black perpetrators make up about 25% of the cases, while Black individuals represent roughly 13-14% of the U.S. population.
    • Other racial/ethnic groups: The remainder of the perpetrators are of other racial and ethnic backgrounds, including Hispanic, Asian, Native American, and mixed-race perpetrators.

2. FBI Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR):​

The UCR compiles data from law enforcement agencies across the U.S. about crimes that are reported, including sexual assaults. The racial breakdown of offenders here tends to align with national crime trends, but the data is more focused on arrests rather than actual occurrences of sexual assault.
  • White offenders: Approximately 50-60% of arrests for rape/sexual assault involve White individuals.
  • Black offenders: Around 30-40% of arrests for rape/sexual assault involve Black individuals.

3. Sexual Assault and Rape Prevention (RAINN):​

RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) is a leading organization that tracks sexual assault statistics and provides information on prevention and recovery. According to their data:
  • Race of offenders: RAINN's findings show that the racial makeup of sexual assault perpetrators is largely reflective of the racial demographics of the United States, with an overrepresentation of White and Black individuals in sexual violence crimes. However, specific percentages vary depending on how the data is aggregated (e.g., age, region).

4. Victim Demographics:​

Regarding sexual assault victimization, statistics consistently show that:
  • Women are disproportionately affected by sexual violence, with about 90% of rape victims being female.
  • Age: The highest victimization rates are for young women, particularly those aged 18-24.
  • Ethnic and Racial Breakdown of Victims: While sexual assault disproportionately affects Black women, due to higher rates of victimization among Black communities, White women are the most common victims overall due to the size of the White population in the U.S.
 
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It can't and nothing will until 20 January. We currently have an entire administration and political party complicit in the invasion of this country by the lowest form of humanity on the planet, all for the purpose of cultivating them into the next lowest form of humanity on the planet--democrats.

What do you feel will change when Trump enters office?
Trump , had a HUGE border issue until Covid bailed him out
 
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

You simply choose to hear "They’re rapists." Others hear "their rapists".

Big difference.
 
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I find it interesting that someone as clearly intelligent as you are would fall for the miss-characterization of his comments by conflating Trump taking issue with Mexico sending rapists, murderers, and thieves, which they are, and conflating those statements to mean he is saying all of the people coming are of that variety, while simultaneously completely omitting where he said some of the immigrants are good people.

You know better.
 
I find it interesting that someone as clearly intelligent as you are would fall for the miss-characterization of his comments by conflating Trump taking issue with Mexico sending rapists, murderers, and thieves, which they are, and conflating those statements to mean he is saying all of the people coming are of that variety, while simultaneously completely omitting where he said some of the immigrants are good people.

You know better.
Mexico isn't sending them in. People are coming from or passing through Mexico trying to get into the US.

And the people coming in, last I checked, are less likely to rape or kill or etc than the average US citizen. Naturally some of them are bad people, but statistically not worse than US citizens.
 
My apologies for being late to the thread. I have to prioritize and MAGA threads come in right after polls about sock drawer organization. That said:

  • Didn't this happen way back in September?
  • Don't we already have laws in place to address this? INA § 237(a)(2)

Key Provisions of the INA Relevant to Deportation​

  1. Deportability for Criminal Offenses:
    • Under INA § 237(a)(2), non-citizens (both lawful permanent residents and undocumented immigrants) can be deported if convicted of certain crimes. Sexual assault can fall under these categories:
      • Crimes involving moral turpitude (CIMT): Many forms of sexual assault are considered CIMTs due to their inherently vile or depraved nature.
      • Aggravated felonies: Sexual abuse of a minor, rape, and other serious offenses are classified as aggravated felonies under INA § 101(a)(43), leading to mandatory deportation upon conviction.
Yeah, but op gets his news from rando twitter bots.
 
What do you feel will change when Trump enters office?
Trump , had a HUGE border issue until Covid bailed him out
Best numbers on record lol what are you talking about out? When do you guys start crying about kids in cages again? Haven't heard that one in 4 years..
Yeah, but op gets his news from rando twitter bots.
What is your "superior" news source? Msnbc? Abc? Npr? Want highlights of the lies and hoaxes they've all spread?
 
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Best numbers on record lol what are you talking about out? When do you guys start crying about kids in cages again? Haven't heard that one in 4 years..

What is your "superior" news source? Msnbc? Abc? Npr? Want highlights of the lies and hoaxes they've all spread?
They're all more accurate than twitter.

The problem with a lot of the twitter feeds you guys rely on is that A) they're not really news, just biased analysis and B) they don't bat a good percentage.

There is a double standard. ABC slips up once and you retards are howling like monkeys -- your Twitter sources could **** up every other day, but you retards don't pay attention to that.

Because of this I have zero respect for you and your ilk. Disposable retards, you are.

If we sat down and actually went through all the news items in a comparison between sources we'd both see this. But you're never going to do that.

That's why you have all these retards flocking to biased analysis -- not even news, you guys still rely upon mainstream news for 99% of your information -- and then don't bother to criticize it when it's wrong.

You're happy if you're batting .005 -- no real standards -- and "score" against mainstream media once in a while.

Conservative mind virus at work here. ****ing retards.
 
70 million braindead Americans voted for that woman!
Two things can be are true.

How many millions more brain-dead Americans also(key word here) voted for Trump?

You both failed America, and that is a factual statement regardless of how much you all scoff at it, laugh at it, or roll your eyes and dismissively wave your hands while thinking to yourselves, "yeah yeah whatever"................

The best part is you should know by now how neutral I am, so I have no reason to lie to anyone.

Hope that helps! :D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
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Best numbers on record lol what are you talking about out? When do you guys start crying about kids in cages again? Haven't heard that one in 4 years..

What is your "superior" news source? Msnbc? Abc? Npr? Want highlights of the lies and hoaxes they've all spread?
They lost the election because of the asinine border policy, inflation, and stupid woke bs. Let them roll in their own manure . Traditional Americans will vote republican.
 
They're all more accurate than twitter.

The problem with a lot of the twitter feeds you guys rely on is that A) they're not really news, just biased analysis and B) they don't bat a good percentage.

There is a double standard. ABC slips up once and you retards are howling like monkeys -- your Twitter sources could **** up every other day, but you retards don't pay attention to that.

Because of this I have zero respect for you and your ilk. Disposable retards, you are.

If we sat down and actually went through all the news items in a comparison between sources we'd both see this. But you're never going to do that.

That's why you have all these retards flocking to biased analysis -- not even news, you guys still rely upon mainstream news for 99% of your information -- and then don't bother to criticize it when it's wrong.

You're happy if you're batting .005 -- no real standards -- and "score" against mainstream media once in a while.

Conservative mind virus at work here. ****ing retards.


They didn't lie once you fvcking idiot. You were probably stupid enough to believe over half of these, admit it. Nobody cares about your respect btw, douche bag.
900k encounters is a good number?
You open border scum are disgusting.
Lot less than 2.5 million. Math hard.
 
That looks very similar to my voting record, except I wasn’t old enough to vote until 2000 and I voted Democrat from 2016 to try to save the country (and the Republican Party) from the Trump disaster.

I miss the days the Republican Party was the party of common sense, although I now in hindsight greatly regret supporting the Bush/Cheney foreign policy agenda.
Commonsense? Men menstrual cycles? Border crossing gone wild ? Siding with criminals vs law enforcement?
 
Maybe because those who commit felonies and violent misdemeanors are already deportable, and more than 100 advocacy groups for domestic violence survivors were against the bill because it will discourage women from reporting.

But excellent use of “tards.” Classy.
Yeah If I were a raped woman, the idea that asshole would be shipped back to his hell hole country that the dems want to turn the US into would just be too much.
 
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