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Dems grappling w/ Biden’s pardoning of his son for federal crimes after they spent yrs slamming Trump as a threat to democracy who disregarded the law

This is yet another example, in the endless number of them, that Dems and Rs are covered differently. Trump did lots of pardons like this. News barely touched these stories. But Biden does it and the news is all over it.

It was all over the news when Trump did it too. The problem is that Biden sank to Trump's level showing principles for at least him and perhaps the Dems entirely are lacking.

You don't quit on principles just because they become uncomfortable to you.

I may be going back to my 3rd party voting again since neither side seems to really have any principles anymore.
 
It was all over the news when Trump did it too. The problem is that Biden sank to Trump's level showing principles for at least him and perhaps the Dems entirely are lacking.

You don't quit on principles just because they become uncomfortable to you.

I may be going back to my 3rd party voting again since neither side seems to really have any principles anymore.
Trump said he will try to imprison Biden and his family. And just nominated the guy who promised to do it. Joe would be an idiot to think he and his family are safe.

This isn't a principles test. It's a threat coming from Trump. Biden acted accordingly.
 
It was all over the news when Trump did it too. The problem is that Biden sank to Trump's level showing principles for at least him and perhaps the Dems entirely are lacking.

You don't quit on principles just because they become uncomfortable to you.

I may be going back to my 3rd party voting again since neither side seems to really have any principles anymore.
Would you agree that there is a serious chance that Trump et al. would go after hunter? yep...
I don't like it either but I do understand it.
No this doesn't mean the two parties "both do it" in the same manner.
 
Trump said he will try to imprison Biden and his family. And just nominated the guy who promised to do it. Joe would be an idiot to think he and his family are safe.

This isn't a principles test. It's a threat coming from Trump. Biden acted accordingly.

He'd still have to convicted him in front of a jury. You can sign all the indictments you want. You still got to prove it.
 
pointing out your lack of understanding.
pardoning 1 person, who has become the whipping boy of an entire party, is completely understandable and not an abuse of power. It's one he literally has.
Trump pardoning a large group of people, that were actually prodded on by trump himself; would fit the definition of abuse of power.
Stacking a supreme court with do as I say, not as I do and then have them give you powers no one ever thought would happen. That's abuse of power.
Take a good look at all those screaming about "the constitution" when democrats are in positions of power. They are the ones supporting Trump and other Conservative megadonors running all over it.

Lol
 
Would you agree that there is a serious chance that Trump et al. would go after hunter? yep...
I don't like it either but I do understand it.
No this doesn't mean the two parties "both do it" in the same manner.
Trump doesn't have to go after him. He's already been convicted on tax evasion and gun charges. They were just waiting on sentencing.
 
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Trump said he will try to imprison Biden and his family. And just nominated the guy who promised to do it. Joe would be an idiot to think he and his family are safe.

This isn't a principles test. It's a threat coming from Trump. Biden acted accordingly.
4 Years. 4 years they are going to get to go through every decision made by the democrats. All those "orange man bad" decisions where maybe the gray area was pushed were justified because Trump is the devil right? The laws he broke were worse than the laws they had to break to find his faults...right?






Buckle up.
 
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Too much time on your hands?
Dems = maggots:
no respect for law
no respect for babies
no respect for children (mutilate)
war mongers
no respect for women and girls. (allow biological males to compete with and hang out with women in their private spaces.)
Get a clue. Your party did not lose because of the economy. You lost because you have become the party of demented perverts.
LOL. Get a life moron, even though you aren't bright enough to hold a job. Or just do the right thing.
 
Trump doesn't have to go after him. He's already been convicted on tax evasion and gun charges. They were just waiting on sentencing.
Correct.

Hunter pled guilty attempting to have any or all new charges dropped against him. The judge stopped that motion.

He was looking at 18 months and 3 1/5 years on the 2 charges. He was on his way to prison in little over a week after the sentencing court date.

Let's see if old Joe pardons his brother, himself, other family members and Hunter's buddy that distributed the money. Got to keep them safe from prosecution so they are not ratting the Biden's out.
 
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I don't really care about the Trump angle.

I care more about the "rich need to pay their fair share". I care more about "we need more gun laws".

Hunter brought this upon himself, by doing the deeds, then making money by bragging about it in his book. It wasn't about politics because Joe's DoJ pursued it. Joe could have stopped it at any time.

Nobody is above the law. Yeah, right.
 
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2026 mid-terms can't get here soon enough!! >

"Already reeling from their November defeats, Democrats now are grappling with President Joe Biden’s pardoning of his son for federal crimes, with some calling the move misguided and unwise after the party spent years slamming Donald Trump as a threat to democracy who disregarded the law."

 
pardoning 1 person, who has become the whipping boy of an entire party
Hunter put himself in a position to be that whipping boy by taking a lucrative position working for the most corrupt oligarch in Ukraine. It’s not like he was minding his own business practicing law in Delaware and Republicans decided to target him. He has no one but himself to blame for his woes.
 
House Republicans spending the last 4 years going after Hunter Biden has helped middle class Americans exactly HOW, again? Trying to ruin Biden's kid was their only agenda. Otherwise they accomplished nothing that helps the country.
 
House Republicans spending the last 4 years going after Hunter Biden has helped middle class Americans exactly HOW, again? Trying to ruin Biden's kid was their only agenda. Otherwise they accomplished nothing that helps the country.
We got rid of the worst enemy the American middle class has ever seen on 5 November, and this helped!
 
House Republicans spending the last 4 years going after Hunter Biden has helped middle class Americans exactly HOW, again? Trying to ruin Biden's kid was their only agenda. Otherwise they accomplished nothing that helps the country.
Are you really a school teacher?
 
As I've said, I don't have a particular problem with the pardon, though as others have suggested, I might have made it more specific if I were king. That said, a few random comments on some of the themes in the thread...
1. I suppose if there's a silver lining to the presidential immunity decision, which IMO goes goes a little beyond the underlying legitimate consideration, it's that it avoids the future constitutional crisis of the court having to decide whether a president can pardon themself.
2. This matter is another reminder of how I continue to find it strange how reasonably sophisticated people - including those currently in the WH - seem to be unable to distinguish between Trumpian political rhetoric and reality. It's almost ironic in that it presupposes he's always telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, which of course he is not. And even more oddly, the truth about the most extreme/ludicrous things.
3. Regarding the continuing "stacked court" theme, while I believe that Garland was treated unfairly, was a fine AG, and would have made a fine justice (having actually had him in a Medicare hospital reimbursement case years ago), McConnell took some political risk in what he did (and "won"), but politics is not always a dirty word. It is part of the structure. Beyond Garland though, (i) I'm not entirely sure what people think Trump should have done when faced with an open nomination other than nominate someone consistent with the judicial philosophy of his side, and (ii) among the conservative justices on the court, it seems to me that Trump's nominees should be the least of his opponents' concerns.
4. The pardon will reflect badly on Biden's short term legacy, but will fade into the background in importance. That said, while many political families have dynastic aspirations, i suspect his family will suffer from the usual problems associated with inherited wealth, but probably a generation sooner than most.
 
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