Dez King question..............
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He has said he promised his mother he won't leave Iowa without his degree. However, maybe he can finish that up this summer. Perhaps they realize the money is there and tell him to do what is best for him.
That being said he is probably at his ceiling. I've read his assets are instincts, technique and ball skills. The 2 knocks on him are size and straight away speed. Those won't improve with another year of college. Also, I doubt size is what keeps him from going high. I will say I don't see him in the 1st round but I wouldn't rule it out.
I hope he stays for selfish reasons but him leaving would probably be in his best interest for long term NFL money and it's a good thing when players leave your program early for the NFL.
That being said he is probably at his ceiling. I've read his assets are instincts, technique and ball skills. The 2 knocks on him are size and straight away speed. Those won't improve with another year of college. Also, I doubt size is what keeps him from going high. I will say I don't see him in the 1st round but I wouldn't rule it out.
I hope he stays for selfish reasons but him leaving would probably be in his best interest for long term NFL money and it's a good thing when players leave your program early for the NFL.
While I think he has first round talent and can turn out as a 1st round grade in the pros, I see him as a bargain 2nd rounder right now unless the right team with need comes along.
Like heat_dawg said, I think he has shown all he can shown. But he has more hype now than he did at the start of the season. If puts in the same level of play next year that he did this year with the added eyes, he will jump a couple rounds IMO.
Dez has elite ball skills and instincts what will determine his draft status will be hips. I'm not saavy enough to know what good hip turn looks like but that is huge in the eyes of the scouts
If Dez leaves early, we are losing probably the best corner in the KF era. However, we have two more than capable back-ups that will be batltling to fill that spot- both Fleming and Joshua Jackson have shown they are good enough to be full time starters IMO. If there is one position we could afford to lose someone to the draft early it is probably CB.
IMO the next few games will answer this question. If he would of had a redshirt I would say maybe but right now he needs to stay that's a huge step
Sonce when did the S&C program stop increasing straight line speed? Will Doyle shave off .1 from his 40 in a year? Certainly not. But he could change the visuals (4.51 to 4.48). The draft data is all about those visuals and being able to say he runs a 4.4 or 4.3 (no clue what his 40 time is, so these numbers are all made up to make a point) is HUGE.
Also, im selfish. So King should stick around another year. AND the NCAA should give Ott another year to play. Thatd be one hell of a salty defense
Also, im selfish. So King should stick around another year. AND the NCAA should give Ott another year to play. Thatd be one hell of a salty defense
I honestly think that if his draft forecast comes back even the least bit questionable and drew Ott gets approved for a medical RS, he comes back.
Everyone in this program has shown to be so unselfish that I think in that scenario he would come back just because of what he deems to be unfinished business if Iowa doesn't win this weekend and/or the playoff game.
Everyone in this program has shown to be so unselfish that I think in that scenario he would come back just because of what he deems to be unfinished business if Iowa doesn't win this weekend and/or the playoff game.
I was encouraged by Maybin's play this past week. Much better from what I could tell.
I think my favorite thing about King is his ability and willingness to tackle, outside of the obvious in his ball skills. I read a draft report on him yesterday and they had him projected in the second round. I have no idea how good these guys are but their overall outlook on him seems pretty accurate.
http://withthefirstpick.com/2015/11/30/2016-nfl-draft-early-look-at-iowas-desmond-king/
http://withthefirstpick.com/2015/11/30/2016-nfl-draft-early-look-at-iowas-desmond-king/
It seems like a main point of emphasis for DB's in the pre-draft process is the ability to flip their hips and change direction. Cone drills and pro agilitys have a lot of importance, so I really don't think anyone would know how high he could go until after the combine, pro day, etc. I'd hate to see him leave early and slide in the draft or have to switch to S due to poor tests, but theres always a risk. I don't think anyone would blame him if he left. His stock will never be higher and the team will likely never be as successful, so it could be a perfect notes to go out on.
I agree with many that King has reached his peak value/potential as a college prospect. He's probably a safety or slot corner at the next level and likely a bit of a project if designated a safety. I bet he's profiled a lot like Micah Hyde and would probably be a 4th-ish round pick this year or next.
Des lost a quarter of the Nebraska game due to ?.......Probably his attitude that could hurt his play as well as his teammates.......When he did get in, he seemed to be going through the motions and not psychologically or physically in the game. Iowa's next two/three games that he plays are important to his NFL potential career in term of contract. I hope he stays another year- his decision.....I hope I am wrong about his attitude!
Being late to a team meeting, according to Kirk and Desmond. What makes you say that he was not in the game? The muffed punt?
Second round, I think his play has been better than Hydes was, but he's not quite the specimen Hyde is.
I didn't see that at all. In fact, he made up for the muff with an excellent return. I don't see any slack in Des at all. (I'm also no judge of football talent.)
It's going to be all about the combine and pro day. If his results are mediocre he'll probably be a late 2nd round early third. This happened to sash when he left his junior year. He was projected late 3rd and slid to 6th. King is a great college player and would hate to see him go early to the draft to find out he is just one step to slow for the NFL
The average NFL cornerback is 5-foot-11, 193.4 pounds. The average wide receiver: 6-foot-1. In the 2001 draft, four men over 6-1 entered the league as cornerbacks, and only one stayed a corner.
As an Iowa fan, I selfishly hope he stays.
That being said, if he stays just to get his degree turning down millions..he's an absolute idiot.
If you're just a normal guy going to college for business and in your junior year somebody offers you 10 million to come work for him...what are you gonna do? lol
I know a thousand mouth breathing idiots who have college degrees. A degree is EASY to buy for a rich person. If he turns down millions for that he is a stupid, stupid person.
Let's just hope that he wants to experience another year of Hawkeye football.
Didn't Scherff have the opportunity to go pro his Jr year? He stayed and won the Outland Trophy and became a 1st round pick (#5 overall) so it turns out it can be a good decision.
I don't know if he will come back or leave early. But at least he is waiting to make/ announce his decision and focusing on our remaining games.
Ohio State's players that made a big scene, whining and announcing they were going into the NFL early were so annoying and selfish.
BAU for Ohio state though I guess. Can't stand those pile jumpers, lol.
Ohio State's players that made a big scene, whining and announcing they were going into the NFL early were so annoying and selfish.
BAU for Ohio state though I guess. Can't stand those pile jumpers, lol.
DeZ told me he wants to come back to defend the national title.
Meaning no insult to the people giving that award, but this is one that almost nobody has heard of. That's the reason there's not a lot of buzz.
