Of course. But you'd have to "suspect" that KF/BF was talking to AC about Schiano's defense from 2012-13.
Did BF finally get to call the plays?
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Maybe. I guess I don't know how much Clayborn could have told them that they couldn't find on tape.
I don't know either. It's not really a theory I subscribe to. Lol. Just throwing it into the oven to see how it cooks.
Im just going to trust the Nfl qb who watched tape for a living and had just watched Iowas when he says Iowa was being more aggressive, that and the fact that it was obvious.
Not sure why its so hard for people to understand that when you have a 1st year QB, and two Frosh tackles protecting him after losing your 2 most SR lineman to injuries, ...you would struggle early, lean on hour SR running back, gradually open the playbook, and have some hickups along the way.
In addition, when your line is struggling with blocking, the dumbest thing you could do is force your 1st yr QB, who's not very mobile, to sit back there and get his neck rung play after play, destroying and ruining any confidence he may need for future games and seasons.
But i know, all u EXPERTS who have most likely never played the game, nor coached even pee wee fball, think your awesome gradeschool spread option chicken scratch notebook plays are more qualified than those of what most likely will be the winningest coach in Iowa History
Alot of you, really have no clue, and verify that with your commnets on here.
In addition, when your line is struggling with blocking, the dumbest thing you could do is force your 1st yr QB, who's not very mobile, to sit back there and get his neck rung play after play, destroying and ruining any confidence he may need for future games and seasons.
But i know, all u EXPERTS who have most likely never played the game, nor coached even pee wee fball, think your awesome gradeschool spread option chicken scratch notebook plays are more qualified than those of what most likely will be the winningest coach in Iowa History
Alot of you, really have no clue, and verify that with your commnets on here.
This. There weren't any new formations. We took advantage of a team that thought they could play their base defense against us. Once they finally started stacking the box in the 2nd half, it was too late.
You're going to trust in someone who probably spent 30 minutes watching game film over the reality of the season. Ok.
Every TD pass was to a wide open receiver. Do people really think that "execution" got those receivers that open in the endzone facing OSU's defense? Those guys were open because those defenders were second guessing themselves. Or I suppose you could subscribe to the theory that they simply showed up and forgot how to play---and that seems very far-fetched.
The Iowa offense was being called like it's pants were on fire.
The Iowa offense was being called like it's pants were on fire.
Whered you get 30 minutes?
Yes I will trust him.
Iowa did throw more often on first down than normal in the first quarter, that is a fact.
If only everyone could be as smart as you
So why did they pick this game to finally decide everyone was ready to go full bore.
Well, if i was as smart as you, appearently I "wouldn't" understand that nothing new play wise was done. Some early execution, and better blocking, led to BFs ability to to be more aggressive, as well as continued execution.
Did we all of the sudden start running the spread option, NO! Its was KFs offense, the same one thats been around all yr, that put the beat down on OSU, not anything else, thus the explanation is execution...of which every and all coaches refer to at cfbs highest levels, now if only fans could listen and understand.
I can guarentee you if Stanley had been mad rushed, crushed, & wrs dropped balls early in the first couple series like in past games, you wouldn't have seen things "open up" lime u think they did. Success and failures during a game help dictate how aggressive you can be, especially with frosh tackles and a frosh QB.
But I get it, its hard to understand how real life college fball is different than Madden.
Did we all of the sudden start running the spread option, NO! Its was KFs offense, the same one thats been around all yr, that put the beat down on OSU, not anything else, thus the explanation is execution...of which every and all coaches refer to at cfbs highest levels, now if only fans could listen and understand.
I can guarentee you if Stanley had been mad rushed, crushed, & wrs dropped balls early in the first couple series like in past games, you wouldn't have seen things "open up" lime u think they did. Success and failures during a game help dictate how aggressive you can be, especially with frosh tackles and a frosh QB.
But I get it, its hard to understand how real life college fball is different than Madden.
Who said anything about running different plays than have been run all year? People are saying the play calling was different not the plays that were being called. This means down and distance play calling, not that they started running the Oregon offense.
Explain the difference in offensive play calling in the NW game compared to the OSU game.
Simple as going away from tendencies. That's all it was. We got away from the tendencies Iowa fans complain about CONSTANTLY.
Multiple audibles in to a PASS (never thought I'd see the day)
Throwing the ball downfield on first down to playmakers
Got Wadley in space
All the works. Urban had no idea what we were doing. It's like BF looked at past tape and said, "Alright guys, we're doing the exact opposite of what we always have when they're expecting it. I know it sounds basic but I really do think it's that simple. Threw them off and caught them off balance.
Beautiful coaching and execution. Wiscy is in trouble, mark my words.
NW Game - 9 1st down plays. 3 pass, 5 run.
Minnesota game - 7 1st down plays. 5 pass, 2 run
OSU game - 8 1st down plays. 5 pass, 3 run
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See....again, I agree w some of the above but what u dont understand is we have called similar plays at simlar downs and distances...we just Dropped Balls, Missed Blocks ETCETCETC...when that happens drives stall, execution doesn't happen, and tendencies naturally change.
The only thing that changed against OSU is execution, which led to being more opportunistic and having more success...the secret to fball is...those two things run parallel to one another and have the biggest impact on the outcome of games.
Its about buying in, doing what your suppose to, and executing it. U can call any play in any part of the game, but if blocks r missed ,balls r dropped, and running paths r not correct, u r not successful....no matter the down and distance or who youre playing....the only outlier is talent level, can make up for some, but not all, especially at a program like Iowa. WE R NOT BAMA, NEVER WILL BE....we will never be abke to recruit that talent to Iowa, i dont care who u have coaching ....Harbaugh,Meyer,Saban,Kubiak,Belichek (ok, maybe beli, Jason G...wont matter, recruiting wont consistently go to the level of Bama.
The only thing that changed against OSU is execution, which led to being more opportunistic and having more success...the secret to fball is...those two things run parallel to one another and have the biggest impact on the outcome of games.
Its about buying in, doing what your suppose to, and executing it. U can call any play in any part of the game, but if blocks r missed ,balls r dropped, and running paths r not correct, u r not successful....no matter the down and distance or who youre playing....the only outlier is talent level, can make up for some, but not all, especially at a program like Iowa. WE R NOT BAMA, NEVER WILL BE....we will never be abke to recruit that talent to Iowa, i dont care who u have coaching ....Harbaugh,Meyer,Saban,Kubiak,Belichek (ok, maybe beli
, Jason G...wont matter, recruiting wont consistently go to the level of Bama.
See....again, I agree w some of the above but what u dont understand is we have called similar plays at simlar downs and distances...we just Dropped Balls, Missed Blocks ETCETCETC...when that happens drives stall, execution doesn't happen, and tendencies naturally change.
The only thing that changed against OSU is execution, which led to being more opportunistic and having more success...the secret to fball is...those two things run parallel to one another and have the biggest impact on the outcome of games.
Its about buying in, doing what your suppose to, and executing it. U can call any play in any part of the game, but if blocks r missed ,balls r dropped, and running paths r not correct, u r not successful....no matter the down and distance or who youre playing....the only outlier is talent level, can make up for some, but not all, especially at a program like Iowa. WE R NOT BAMA, NEVER WILL BE....we will never be abke to recruit that talent to Iowa, i dont care who u have coaching ....Harbaugh,Meyer,Saban,Kubiak,Belichek (ok, maybe beli
This x1,000,000,000,000,000,000.
See....again, I agree w some of the above but what u dont understand is we have called similar plays at simlar downs and distances...we just Dropped Balls, Missed Blocks ETCETCETC...when that happens drives stall, execution doesn't happen, and tendencies naturally change.
The only thing that changed against OSU is execution, which led to being more opportunistic and having more success...the secret to fball is...those two things run parallel to one another and have the biggest impact on the outcome of games.
Its about buying in, doing what your suppose to, and executing it. U can call any play in any part of the game, but if blocks r missed ,balls r dropped, and running paths r not correct, u r not successful....no matter the down and distance or who youre playing....the only outlier is talent level, can make up for some, but not all, especially at a program like Iowa. WE R NOT BAMA, NEVER WILL BE....we will never be abke to recruit that talent to Iowa, i dont care who u have coaching ....Harbaugh,Meyer,Saban,Kubiak,Belichek (ok, maybe beli
Obviously execution is the biggest factor. However, you can't sit here and tell me that going away from tendencies wasn't a factor in leaving Meyer shell shocked? He was not at all prepared for those sequences. If he was, then according to your own logic we wouldn't have been able to simply "out-execute" them because of the talent differential. It was a perfect storm of both.
HnC, Twin -
I hear ya, but understand, execution leads to more plays in a simple mathematical eval, as well as more flexibility. <That, along with the development of these young kids in key positions.
No doubt BF and Iowa attacked more, but the Line was pass blocking, Wrs were catching balls, and we were actually running the ball decently....All of that leads to more OFF plays/opportunities for BF to expand the OFF.
When u get destroyed up front w a FR QB and FR tackles u have to dial it back until signs of progress come thru, or u could go from being in a game to getting 50 ptd. When u start a game w success, and that continues, of coyrse you are more willing to ooen things up.
But to say last week was some night and day difference from a gameplan and playcalling aspect...is simply false.
I leave u with this, ....last week for me and im sure the staff, finally, felt like a famous quote as follows:
" I love it when a plan comes together"
Colonel John “Hannibal” Smith
I hear ya, but understand, execution leads to more plays in a simple mathematical eval, as well as more flexibility. <That, along with the development of these young kids in key positions.
No doubt BF and Iowa attacked more, but the Line was pass blocking, Wrs were catching balls, and we were actually running the ball decently....All of that leads to more OFF plays/opportunities for BF to expand the OFF.
When u get destroyed up front w a FR QB and FR tackles u have to dial it back until signs of progress come thru, or u could go from being in a game to getting 50 ptd. When u start a game w success, and that continues, of coyrse you are more willing to ooen things up.
But to say last week was some night and day difference from a gameplan and playcalling aspect...is simply false.
I leave u with this, ....last week for me and im sure the staff, finally, felt like a famous quote as follows:
" I love it when a plan comes together"
Colonel John “Hannibal” Smith
Yawn.
Youre not good at making logical arguments.
Youre arguing against a bunch of shit that was not actually said by anyone but you. Different formations different offense ect. You made that up and then tried to act like I said it.
Thats called a straw man, its the tactic of a simpleton.
I dont doubt you know more about football than me, that clearly doesnt make you smarter than me.
I know enough to trust a former pros analysis.
Iowa was more agressive with the pass than they usually are on first down.
Why is that so difficult to accept. Because you have an emotional reaction towards it for some reason.
What's a commnet?
Luv your handle, which indicates we can look forward to completely objective posts from you as you dazzle us in the future.
Oh look, the grammar and spelling police came out, usally when they have nothing valid to add...well done, ill accept your wht flag.
As far as u Rock, u may want to ck the numbers on what u think was such a different 1st down pass ratio...and when doing so, u should consider the percentage, not number alone, as ive mentioned above, play calling is effected by the number of offensive series and plays a team has during a game....im sure u can understand that.
Now as far as play calling scheme, if youre wrong about the 1st down play calling ( you'll figure that out after u research the numbers), then what else besides execution could it possibly be...so either youre going to rely on the only thing left for u to bitch about, the scheme, as i did unfairly call u out for....or u will come to your senses and realize most success, including last Saturdays, has to do w executing plays, a hell of a lot more than what is actually called.
So u tell us, is it first down passes (no) or a different scheme (no), or execution for the most part. Ill be anxiously waiting for your anwer....carry on, and most importantly, Go Hawks.
As far as u Rock, u may want to ck the numbers on what u think was such a different 1st down pass ratio...and when doing so, u should consider the percentage, not number alone, as ive mentioned above, play calling is effected by the number of offensive series and plays a team has during a game....im sure u can understand that.
Now as far as play calling scheme, if youre wrong about the 1st down play calling ( you'll figure that out after u research the numbers), then what else besides execution could it possibly be...so either youre going to rely on the only thing left for u to bitch about, the scheme, as i did unfairly call u out for....or u will come to your senses and realize most success, including last Saturdays, has to do w executing plays, a hell of a lot more than what is actually called.
So u tell us, is it first down passes (no) or a different scheme (no), or execution for the most part. Ill be anxiously waiting for your anwer....carry on, and most importantly, Go Hawks.
They were second guessing themselves because they did not know how to adjust to motion in a pro set offense! It really was an Ohio State coaching failure!
They clearly passed to setup the run. They had OSU on skates after several long pass plays.
When Hockenson ran the perfect bend around the LB ahead of the safety on his second long 22yard play, Iowa ran it again on Fants long TD. The LB was glued to Hock leaving Fant with 1on1 down the sideline. They had no clue what was coming next. All day.
I’ve come to know KF personally over the past 4 years. I don’t consider us to be friends in that we talk frequently or hang out together, but we have had a half dozen fairly lengthy discussions about football over the years, and my kid has talked to him hundreds of times and hung out with him frequently. On this basis, and as it pertains to this debate, I can tell you that KF delegates responsibility routinely to his staff (occasionally, to a fault). He has never been a micro-manager, in any situation that I’ve dealt with him. KF is an incredibly consistent person: he does what he tells you he will do. In my personal experience as a HS football coach, I can tell you that play calling is not easy, and requires time and experience to master. I believe that what happened on Sat was a function of a young OC calling a great game, in his 9th game mind you, with the same degree of freedom he’s been afforded all year long, coupled with much-improved execution by our players. As @J_Heater and others have so eloquently pointed out, our second play from scrimmage (a run which went for 20 or so yards) is a case-in-point on improved execution, as our run blocking was outstanding over the entire unit, in a circumstance where we were playing to our base tendency of running on 2nd down. I encourage everyone to review that play. The data are there, for everyone to see.See....again, I agree w some of the above but what u dont understand is we have called similar plays at simlar downs and distances...we just Dropped Balls, Missed Blocks ETCETCETC...when that happens drives stall, execution doesn't happen, and tendencies naturally change.
The only thing that changed against OSU is execution, which led to being more opportunistic and having more success...the secret to fball is...those two things run parallel to one another and have the biggest impact on the outcome of games.
Its about buying in, doing what your suppose to, and executing it. U can call any play in any part of the game, but if blocks r missed ,balls r dropped, and running paths r not correct, u r not successful....no matter the down and distance or who youre playing....the only outlier is talent level, can make up for some, but not all, especially at a program like Iowa. WE R NOT BAMA, NEVER WILL BE....we will never be abke to recruit that talent to Iowa, i dont care who u have coaching ....Harbaugh,Meyer,Saban,Kubiak,Belichek (ok, maybe beli
I’m not trying to convince everyone of my perspective, but when some folks are posting their opinions without facts to back them, and that are so obviously counter to what I’ve come to personally know, I feel I have to say something.
