Did he kill her?

[nolesincebirth]

Anyone else following this story? Guy and his fiancé buy a camper van, set off to tour the country. Allegedly they make it to the Grand Tetons but not Yellowstone. He ultimately returns to FL, she’s nowhere to be seen. He lawyers up; has nothing to say.

Parents of Gabby Petito’s boyfriend return to Florida home after rebuffing cops

The parents of a Florida man sought for questioning in the mysterious disappearance of his Long Island girlfriend were caught returning home Tuesday — after shooing cops away.

nypost.com

 

[nolesincebirth]

More detailed article here

This ‘Van-Life’ Couple Went on a Cross-Country Trip Out West. Only He Came Back.

“I’m sure she’ll be found. I have to believe that. Because otherwise, I’ll just break down and cry,” 22-year-old Gabby Petito’s father told The Daily Beast.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[3boysmom]

Signs point to yes.

 

[QChawks]

It’s always Florida

 

[Finance85]

I'm guessing Dateline is all over this one. Probably 20/20 and Paula Zahn too.

Hiring a lawyer should not be some sort of presumption of guilt. Maybe Laundrie can help clarify some things through his attorney.

 

[Finance85]

Signs point to yes.

What signs?

 

[NDallasRuss]

Oh yeah, he definitely killed her.

 

[3boysmom]

What signs?

He never reported her missing. He won't talk to police. He has given no indications on where she might be. If they got in a fight and she left he would say that. I don't care that he hired a lawyer. But someone should be communicating with police.

 

[runkpanole]

 

[QChawks]

What signs?

 

[Finance85]

He never reported her missing. He won't talk to police. He has given no indications on where she might be. If they got in a fight and she left he would say that. I don't care that he hired a lawyer. But someone should be communicating with police.

I'm glad you aren't on the jury. Those aren't signs he killed her.

Maybe the FBI will find evidence of something in the van.

It's understandable why most people would say what you said, though.

 

[IowaHawkIT]

I'll give the guy credit, at least he's not going to put up the who sobbing boyfriend/husband that pleads for her safe return. I mean, we all know those guys are guilty too, but at least he's got some dignity.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

 

[Thunderlips71]

Guilty

 

[Pepperman]

if he didn’t kill her, he definitely knows what’s happened (or is happening)… maybe she wanted to disappear? If so, he helped her and now he’s not going to say anything to reveal where she is.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

What signs?

 

[3boysmom]

I'm glad you aren't on the jury. Those aren't signs he killed her.

Maybe the FBI will find evidence of something in the van.

It's understandable why most people would say what you said, though.

They aren't evidence he killed her but they are signs pointing to him as a person of interest in her disappearance. And they certainly make him look guilty of something.

 

[Nole Lou]

Wow, that's a pretty crazy story. Just not tell anyone anything?

Legally it works I guess. Because of the way they were traveling, she could be anywhere, they will never find her body without his cooperation.

It's just kind of crazy to think of the calculus. I can tell a story about a fall or that ran off on me, which could give me enough plausible deniability, but that could lead to her body or catching me in a lie.

Or say nothing, refuse to even say when the last time you saw her, and although you'll never have deniability, you're almost guaranteed to not to have actionable evidence against you.

Unless he did something stupid, like have incriminating text messages with someone or can be tracked by his phone or GPS, it's hard to see how they can get anything on him. Considering the part of the country they were in, it will be an interesting test of our surveillance state if they can piece together his movements.

 

[Joes Place]

They aren't evidence he killed her but they are signs pointing to him as a person of interest in her disappearance. And they certainly make him look guilty of something.

"She musta just fell"

 

[DaveSnedeker]

Grand Teton is a much better park to visit than Yellowstone.

 

[BelemNole]

Grand Teton is a much better park to visit than Yellowstone.

No

 

[ping72]

Grand Teton is a much better park to visit than Yellowstone.

We didn’t get to stop at the Tetons on our way to Yellowstone, but they were certainly scenic.

 

[Hawki97]

Grand Teton is a much better park to visit than Yellowstone.

I’ve been all over the Tetons (including to the top of the Grand, soooo close on Middle, and Teewinot) and rock climbing in various areas of the park. The climbing and hiking is IMHO some of the best in the United States for such a “small” park. Add in that it’s way less busy, and I agree with your assessment. One of my absolute favorite parks.

I do understand why National Park visitors that like to drive and take short walks love Yellowstone though. Tough to beat all the amazing scenery and wildlife encounters from the comfort of your vehicle or a short walk away.

 

[BEAVERDALEHAWK]

I'm glad you aren't on the jury. Those aren't signs he killed her.

Maybe the FBI will find evidence of something in the van.

It's understandable why most people would say what you said, though.

How are those mot signs he killed her? They most certainly are.

Edit- I agree with others. Not signs he killed her necessarily but he knows what happened.

 

[TylerJ76]

How are those mot signs he killed her? They most certainly are.

Edit- I agree with others. Not signs he killed her necessarily but he knows what happened.

Derp.
I would like to know how any of that is evidence he killed her.

 

[Joes Place]

Derp.
I would like to know how any of that is evidence he killed her.

Right?

Bish quit puttin' out, she gonna be growin' wings one way or the other!!!!😡

 

[TylerJ76]

Right?

Bish quit puttin' out, she gonna be growin' wings one way or the other!!!!😡

Ok.

 

[lucas80]

I can see which posters on HROT that the defense team will be angling to get on the jury. Oh I know, they need some physical evidence, but some of you are a little to forgiving in that he NEVER TOLD ANYONE SHE WAS GONE!!!!
Is his defense going to be that she got out somewhere on I-70 to get a Diet Pepsi when he stopped for gas, he took off, and he never thought to go back for her? And, then she disappeared?

 

[The Tradition]

Wow, that's a pretty crazy story. Just not tell anyone anything?

Legally it works I guess. Because of the way they were traveling, she could be anywhere, they will never find her body without his cooperation.

It's just kind of crazy to think of the calculus. I can tell a story about a fall or that ran off on me, which could give me enough plausible deniability, but that could lead to her body or catching me in a lie.

Or say nothing, refuse to even say when the last time you saw her, and although you'll never have deniability, you're almost guaranteed to not to have actionable evidence against you.

Unless he did something stupid, like have incriminating text messages with someone or can be tracked by his phone or GPS, it's hard to see how they can get anything on him. Considering the part of the country they were in, it will be an interesting test of our surveillance state if they can piece together his movements.

I think I'll just leave this here....

 

[PhoenixHawk5.0]

if he didn’t kill her, he definitely knows what’s happened (or is happening)… maybe she wanted to disappear? If so, he helped her and now he’s not going to say anything to reveal where she is.

Yah until everyone starts to talk about how you murdered her, then a rational person would give some sort of explanation

 

[PhoenixHawk5.0]

Unless there is way more to this story which there may be. But reading what’s available now, my gut says he is responsible.

 

[noleclone2]

Some of his postings on social media read like a guy who knew he had greatly out kicked his coverage and someday was going to lose her….

 

[kwik44]

Nah, this one's easy. Ran out of money - traveling at 22 & 23 'nomadically' with no jobs. Schemed a way for her to go missing and him play idiot while a go-fund-me (or more) gets money flowing in a certain direction. Then she's found & all is well. Off to Maine.

 

[goldmom]

I'm guessing Dateline is all over this one. Probably 20/20 and Paula Zahn too.

Hiring a lawyer should not be some sort of presumption of guilt. Maybe Laundrie can help clarify some things through his attorney.

Well, Nancy Grace says he did it, so it has to be him.
Seriously I do think this guy did something to her.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I did not even read the original post/article.

That being said....I read follow up posts.....

No one, not even someone as innocent as a baby, should talk to LEO w/out an attorney if there is a murder investigation.

 

[lucas80]

I did not even read the original post/article.

That being said....I read follow up posts.....

No one, not even someone as innocent as a baby, should talk to LEO w/out an attorney if there is a murder investigation.

Especially dudes that killed their fiancé.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Especially dudes that killed their fiancé.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Speaking of murders....HROT is still waiting on HROT member neighbors' wife update.

 

[The Tradition]

Step 1: An icicle is the murder weapon. It melts, so that's the end of that.

Step 2: something something.

Step 3: Acquittal.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Step 1: An icicle is the murder weapon. It melts, so that's the end of that.

Step 2: something something.

Step 3: Acquittal.

You forgot the mask and rubber gloves. Plus the acid filled barrel.