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Did he kill her?

I did 23andMe and my relatives were teasing me that they couldn’t get away with anything now. I think they’re right. 😏

I was right there with you. Never been arrested (knock on wood) and never sent my samples to Ancestry or 123Me. I always thought those were a front to populate the Federal DNA database.

I did 23andMe. I was in the military, the government already has my DNA in their database. For any of you active/retired/veterans out there, think twice before committing a crime. The Feds have your DNA. If you are stupid enough to commit a crime of passion...................


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How long do they search for a person of interest?
The amount of resources used has to be immense by this point.
 
I haven't bothered to read this entire thread but isn't it possible that he abused her mentally/physically and she eventually had a breakdown or decided to leave him abruptly, for her safety, and actually died of exposure being unprepared for it? Obviously a COD determination will answer this question but it isn't yet available to the public.

Notice in the picture of her on the road side in LE's interaction. She is holding two bottles of water. Who does this realistically? Unless you were about to leave and walk off and wanted to be sure you had enough water for a bit.
And you wonder why we all think you are an utter numpty.
 
And you wonder why we all think you are an utter numpty.
I am a busy man. :)

I don't wonder at all why people have certain opinions of me. Nor do I care much frankly. That isn't meant to be a snarky remark to you at all or arrogance to be clear, just a fact. I've found that one is a lot better off in life if on one hand you treat people well and are affable and on the other you don't give a rats ass what they think of you despite that. Way too much these days is said and done to get people's approval. F*** that.
 
Do they have a reason for thinking he is in that nature reserve, other than his parents saying that he'd gone there & that they subsequently brought his car home from there?
If it's based on their word, I'm not sure that they should be wasting their efforts there.
 
The guy in the purple shirt on the left has a sleeve tattoo on his arm. The potential defendant has tattoos but no sleeve tattoo on his arm.

That may be a phone strap hikers and runners use as opposed to a sleeve tattoo? I only guess it because it looks like he’s got headphones on. Which I also assume he’s got a phone playing the music too?
 
That may be a phone strap hikers and runners use as opposed to a sleeve tattoo? I only guess it because it looks like he’s got headphones on. Which I also assume he’s got a phone playing the music too?
Guy on the left has been identified as a local.
 
Just like last night, the sheriff's helicopter did a quick loop over the preserve and then went back to the airport



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Do they have a reason for thinking he is in that nature reserve, other than his parents saying that he'd gone there & that they subsequently brought his car home from there?
If it's based on their word, I'm not sure that they should be wasting their efforts there.

If the parents are to be believed, BL has been in that preserve which is around 70-80% underwater/flooded for 8 days.
 
Read somewhere that the parents along with Brian, went on a "camping trip" for 3 days before he went missing in that truck camper that is sitting on the driveway. He could be anywhere by now (if he had outside help). If he is somewhere out in preserve still alive, he's got to be a miserable sumbitch right now.
 
This former FBI agent has some insight, though no specifics, as to why they are continuing to search Carlton Reserve

 
Read somewhere that the parents along with Brian, went on a "camping trip" for 3 days before he went missing in that truck camper that is sitting on the driveway. He could be anywhere by now (if he had outside help). If he is somewhere out in preserve still alive, he's got to be a miserable sumbitch right now.

This NY Post story about the 3 day camping trip with the parents said they left on the day she was reported missing. Gabby was officially reported missing by police on Long Island on Sat Sept 11.

Three day trip is maybe Sat, Sun and Mon. Then the next day, Tues Sept 14, he drives his Mustang to Carlton Reserve to go hiking. He really is a dedicated outdoorsman.


 
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Gabby was still alive on Aug 27th at 1 pm. They were at a restaurant named Merry Piglets. Apparently the potential defendant was arguing with the hostess and Gabby was crying. This was confirmed by the restaurant.





If the restaurant story is true, it explains why she was so distressed on the police video. She was stuck in that little van with a major abusive asshole. Leaves and goes back three times?

 
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I’ve read a few theories on this. Do we actually know this guy was ever really back in Florida? Maybe the parents came and grabbed the van from somewhere and drove it back and this is all the throw everyone off away from wherever the guy is
 
I’ve read a few theories on this. Do we actually know this guy was ever really back in Florida? Maybe the parents came and grabbed the van from somewhere and drove it back and this is all the throw everyone off away from wherever the guy is
Neighbors confirmed. Everything seemed normal. They saw Brian mowing the lawn. Always assumed Gabby was in the house. Things got weird when they saw Brian packing the new camper with the parents but the camper was small for more than a couple of people.
 
Neighbors confirmed. Everything seemed normal. They saw Brian mowing the lawn. Always assumed Gabby was in the house. Things got weird when they saw Brian packing the new camper with the parents but the camper was small for more than a couple of people.
Appreciate the info
 
Neighbors confirmed. Everything seemed normal. They saw Brian mowing the lawn. Always assumed Gabby was in the house. Things got weird when they saw Brian packing the new camper with the parents but the camper was small for more than a couple of people.

Neighbors seem nosy as hell. If I looked out my window & saw my neighbors loading stuff into the camper of their 23 year old kid, I'd just assume that they were helping him load stuff up for he & his fiance to hit the road again. It would never occur to me that they were loading up to take off somewhere with them (keeping in mind that, at the time, they assumed the fiance was still alive & inside the house).
 
Haw-key the autopsy determined the cause of death was homicide.


So assuming death was on or about the 27th, the body laid out in the wilderness for approximately 3 weeks (found on the 19th). Decomposition must have been severe, not to mention any critters in the wild. I would think it would be difficult to prove COD.


HOMICIDE does not necessarily mean MURDER. (Yes, I know, it can also be MURDER)


Disclaimer: I am NOT a Forensic Pathologist, so really this is all just hyperbole.
 
Neighbors seem nosy as hell. If I looked out my window & saw my neighbors loading stuff into the camper of their 23 year old kid, I'd just assume that they were helping him load stuff up for he & his fiance to hit the road again. It would never occur to me that they were loading up to take off somewhere with them (keeping in mind that, at the time, they assumed the fiance was still alive & inside the house).
This was probably the case. They probably didn't think much of it at the time. But now with everything that we know, they're prob like "ya, now this seems pretty f*cked up."
 
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So assuming death was on or about the 27th, the body laid out in the wilderness for approximately 3 weeks (found on the 19th). Decomposition must have been severe, not to mention any critters in the wild. I would think it would be difficult to prove COD.


HOMICIDE does not necessarily mean MURDER. (Yes, I know, it can also be MURDER)


Disclaimer: I am NOT a Forensic Pathologist, so really this is all just hyperbole.
Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another. Included among homicides are murder and manslaughter. Not all homicides are a crime. Some killings may be determined to be manslaughter, and some are lawful, such as when justified by self-defense or insanity. Whether its murder or manslaughter someone caused Gabby to die.
 
So assuming death was on or about the 27th, the body laid out in the wilderness for approximately 3 weeks (found on the 19th). Decomposition must have been severe, not to mention any critters in the wild. I would think it would be difficult to prove COD.


HOMICIDE does not necessarily mean MURDER. (Yes, I know, it can also be MURDER)


Disclaimer: I am NOT a Forensic Pathologist, so really this is all just hyperbole.
If the hyoid bone in the neck was broken, that probably wouldn't be affected much by the elements, and would almost certainly not happen accidentally. OF course that's pure speculation. There's a reason why the preliminary finding is homicide. We'll find out eventually.
 
In my opinion, if she died of exposure it should be considered homicide (Again my opinion). She was his fiancee. Even if she left him willingly in the middle of no where and he made no attempt to find her or notify authorities, family…he deserted her to possibly die.

Could leaving the scene of a car accident be considered homicide, if the other party died? This would be similar, no?
 
If the hyoid bone in the neck was broken, that probably wouldn't be affected much by the elements, and would almost certainly not happen accidentally. OF course that's pure speculation. There's a reason why the preliminary finding is homicide. We'll find out eventually.
excellent point, thank you.

Also, I'm ok with "pure speculation", that's 90% of this thread and its nearly all we have right now.
 
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excellent point, thank you.

Also, I'm ok with "pure speculation", that's 90% of this thread and its nearly all we have right now.
What we know now is miles more than what we knew a few days ago. First, the body was found. Second, there's a preliminary determination of death, though the actual cause hasn't been released. Third, we have more information of dates and times when she was seen.

I'd submit that speculation is different from people stating things as fact without evidence. Heck, I've speculated, but I'm not ready for a conviction without knowing more. Most of the speculation will likely turn out to be true. We'll see.
 
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There are 10 trail cameras in the Carlton Reserve. That may or may not sound like a lot but there is close to 80 miles of trail

 
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