Did the North Carolina Bathroom Law Cost Duke?

[RocknRollface]

So....dicks kept out of womens bathrooms, liberals upset, Duke loses. What a shame.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

So, are you saying that those confused people who want to use the restrooms of the opposite sex are a race of people? Is transgender/transvestite/crossdresser a race now? How is resisting the ridiculous notion that gender confused, and likely many perverted people as evidenced many times, should be given more consideration than innocent young girls?
If this is ignorant, then the NCAA should allow any man who identifies as a woman to actually compete in women's sports and share the showers with the females. That would be the bottom line conclusion that should be addressed by the NCAA's position on this issue.
And, how is Duke, or any entity in the state of N.C. responsible for what their legislature does and their governor signs into law? Duke, like all other universities are a bastion of liberalism and ,as such, would not have supported the State's restroom laws. And, just who the hell does the NCAA think it is to try and extort the State of N.C.?
Do you have any idea how much it would cost to provide those gender confused people with their own restrooms? Would providing just one additional restroom in every facility be enough or would we need one for those women who identify as males and one for the males who identify as females? And, naturally, every bathroom would need to be of the same quality so , for a mere, 1% of the population, if that many, we would need to double the number of restrooms in every restaurant, filling station, mall, school, government building, pop stand, convenience store, theater, roadside rest areas, etc., etc., etc. Because that is what would be coming next. The ignorance on this issue is with the liberals. The whole issue is just meant to cause division, unrest, and chaos and so far it is working. It never was meant to give a damn about anything else.
Your extreme bitterness has to make me wonder if you are using the correct bathroom.

Sounds to me like you have a little bitterness to work out yourself.

 

[amahawk]

3- is right. Won't dispute that one lol

What I will dispute, and may be wrong, is I think the OP was focusing on how politics/sports intervene more than we realize on a year-to-year basis. Politics have a genuine impact, for sure. Duke did get screwed here and it can't really be ignored. As much as we all dislike them it is blatantly obvious that was a screw job for a 2 seed. If it was about anyone besides Duke I would feel a lot worse. They have definitely gotten their fair share of breaks over the years and that is just as obvious. Just looking at this instance alone, I would be livid as a Duke fan. They will get over it though.

All this over restrooms. All restrooms should be hotdog or no hotdog.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Methinks we've got some closet Duke fans in our flock.

 

[mtown66]

Sounds to me like you have a little bitterness to work out yourself.

Nope, no bitterness, just a healthy lack of patience for stupid people and those with a complete lack of common sense. Sounds like you wanted to jump in on me but had no real clue about what to say so you basically went with the substandard ''Oh Yeah'' approach. Nice try.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Nope, no bitterness, just a healthy lack of patience for stupid people and those with a complete lack of common sense. Sounds like you wanted to jump in on me but had no real clue about what to say so you basically went with the substandard ''Oh Yeah'' approach. Nice try.

That's your problem. You don't know what common sense is.

 

[hawkifann]

Who cares if they were heterosexual, homosexual, etc. I'm not even sure what all there is these days. The bottom line is a man by nature should not be allowed in a girls bathroom. It's not fair to them. FWIW they were arrested multiple times but it still continued. There is a very fine line that needs to be determined because I do agree that these guys were just troubled perves. My question is where do you draw the line? Do you check everyone's criminal history at the bathroom door? Do a quick background check? I mean there's just no way to regulate it.

My point is that it shouldn't be that easy for a perv to throw a dress and wig on and go in the girls bathroom.

There's no way to enforce it, that's why HB2 is terrible. There are men that can easily pass as women, women who can easily pass as men, women who creep on girls and men who creep on boys. There are also people everyday around the world who go into the opposite bathroom and nobody notices. Unless you're going to post someone at the door to reconcile physical parts and birth certificates, it's pointless. The only "enforcement" we will have is from people reporting those who are not acting appropriately. If you just go in, do your business and leave, nobody is going to know or do anything, regardless of what laws are on the books...and the flip - if you go in and start openly leering or touching others, the authorities will hopefully arrive quickly.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

There's no way to enforce it, that's why HB2 is terrible. There are men that can easily pass as women, women who can easily pass as men, women who creep on girls and men who creep on boys. There are also people everyday around the world who go into the opposite bathroom and nobody notices. Unless you're going to post someone at the door to reconcile physical parts and birth certificates, it's pointless. The only "enforcement" we will have is from people reporting those who are not acting appropriately. If you just go in, do your business and leave, nobody is going to know or do anything, regardless of what laws are on the books...and the flip - if you go in and start openly leering or touching others, the authorities will hopefully arrive quickly.

Thank you. It's nothing more than a way for the people of NC to openly confirm bigotry. The law does nothing that the existing laws don't already do. It's a symbolic gesture of intolerance.

 

[hawkifann]

Thank you. It's nothing more than a way for the people of NC to openly confirm bigotry. The law does nothing that the existing laws don't already do. It's a symbolic gesture of intolerance.

I agree. It's an FU law that's for show only. In fairness, it was a gross over-reaction to a similarly "for show only" measure implemented in Charlotte that gave anyone a free pass.

I will say that I'd rather err on the side of inclusiveness, but really, neither of them had to happen....and now Charlotte has pulled theirs back, but NC GOP is holding firm.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

I agree. It's an FU law that's for show only. In fairness, it was a gross over-reaction to a similarly "for show only" measure implemented in Charlotte that gave anyone a free pass.

I will say that I'd rather err on the side of inclusiveness, but really, neither of them had to happen....and now Charlotte has pulled theirs back, but NC GOP is holding firm.

It's stupid on either level. I've survived 45 years of public restroom use and so has my 3 sisters. I called them all to verify this. None of them has ever been assaulted in a public restroom by anyone.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Nope, no bitterness, just a healthy lack of patience for stupid people and those with a complete lack of common sense. Sounds like you wanted to jump in on me but had no real clue about what to say so you basically went with the substandard ''Oh Yeah'' approach. Nice try.

You might have more success arguing with folks if you didn't attack them personally.

I agree with you that the bathroom issue is mostly politicians trying to gain support. I think both sides have overplayed something that has been non-issue for a long time. I have a daughter, who I will always protect when I can. Of course, I don't want guys going into a restroom where she might go, but just about the least threatening person she might encounter in the women't restroom is a transgender person. I don't think additional law needs to be created to determine who goes to a particular restroom. Are we going to hire guards who examine everyone's crotch to make sure they are going to the right place?

 

[amahawk]

They should have had them arrested. End of story. Those were heterosexual males looking to perv and used women's clothes to do it.

This is my concern.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

This is my concern.

I have 1,000,000 concerns. I don't need laws to deal with 999,000 of them.

 

[hawkifann]

This is my concern.

How would NC's HB2 stop a man posing as a woman from going into a women's room to look under stall dividers?

It won't. You'd have to wait until there's deviant behavior and then react...just like you would with no law.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

How would NC's HB2 stop a man posing as a woman from going into a women's room to look under stall dividers?

It won't. You'd have to wait until there's deviant behavior and then react...just like you would with no law.

Laws don't stop illegal behavior. It punishes it. End of story. There are already laws on the books that punishes deviant behavior in restrooms. Unlike HB2, they cover every race, gender and sexuality.
If businesses choose not to spend money in your state because of bigotry, that's a YOU problem. Just like Steve King is an Iowa problem. If Ragbrai has 3k fewer riders due to his bigoted ass, I'm not going to throw a tantrum blaming the riders that didn't show up. They can choose to spend their time and money how they choose.
P.S. not "you" specifically. I know you are making the same argument I am.

 

[amahawk]

Laws don't stop illegal behavior. It punishes it. End of story. There are already laws on the books that punishes deviant behavior in restrooms. Unlike HB2, they cover every race, gender and sexuality.
If businesses choose not to spend money in your state because of bigotry, that's a YOU problem. Just like Steve King is an Iowa problem. If Ragbrai has 3k fewer riders due to his bigoted ass, I'm not going to throw a tantrum blaming the riders that didn't show up. They can choose to spend their time and money how they choose.
P.S. not "you" specifically. I know you are making the same argument I am.

Yet we still add more laws each year.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Yet we still add more laws each year.

The dumb a$$ we have as Lieutenant Gov in TX has made a bathroom bill his signature accomplishment. It will make it easy to remember him, since I associate rest rooms with turds.