Did the QB competition hurt the offense this year?

[KFsdisciple]

Remember how long the QB competition went? That the QBs were listed either/or all spring and fall camp? I wonder if Iowa had decided on Stanley much sooner, if he were getting all the starter reps in camp, if the timing on the deep balls may have shown up sooner?

I'm hoping next year, with a veteran QB, with a year in the system, command of the huddle, and an offseason of being "the guy" the offense has a chance to click earlier...

thoughts?

 

[Johnsoda123]

Remember how long the QB competition went? That the QBs were listed either/or all spring and fall camp? I wonder if Iowa had decided on Stanley much sooner, if he were getting all the starter reps in camp, if the timing on the deep balls may have shown up sooner?

I'm hoping next year, with a veteran QB, with a year in the system, command of the huddle, and an offseason of being "the guy" the offense has a chance to click earlier...

thoughts?

What if Mansel is more accurate and can scramble?

 

[KFsdisciple]

are you suggesting there should be an open competition again?

 

[doughawk]

I think you are looking for any excuse for our bad offensive output but the obvious one.
You only need to look as far as our savior, Brian Ferentz.
His daddy Kirk's philosophy on offensive play calling is Iowa's primary problem. This limits our ability to recruit the better skill players thus what limits what he is willing to do which limits our probability of winning more than 6 or 7 average per year.

 

[mvhomerj]

It's the same offense, year in year out. What could possibly change it?

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

This is a heck of a day to be thinking "what-ifs" about this season, but I don't buy this one. Iowa's receiving corps was just plain lousy this year overall, and I really doubt that a few more weeks of practice together in August would have synced them up with Stanley and produced much different results.

 

[Johnsoda123]

are you suggesting there should be an open competition again?

I'm a Stanley fan. His areas where he is near the bottom of the B1G are comp % (yes some drops) and sacks (yes young tackles). Mansel is supposed to be the most accurate and can run. And us cocky and expects to compete for the job. Might be interesting.

 

[pkongsh]

I'm a Stanley fan. His areas where he is near the bottom of the B1G are comp % (yes some drops) and sacks (yes young tackles). Mansel is supposed to be the most accurate and can run. And us cocky and expects to compete for the job. Might be interesting.

Lol.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Remember how long the QB competition went? That the QBs were listed either/or all spring and fall camp? I wonder if Iowa had decided on Stanley much sooner, if he were getting all the starter reps in camp, if the timing on the deep balls may have shown up sooner?

I'm hoping next year, with a veteran QB, with a year in the system, command of the huddle, and an offseason of being "the guy" the offense has a chance to click earlier...

thoughts?

Usually competition is good for the development of a QB.

I don't believe the issue was a lack of "1st team" practice reps for Stanley. It's an interesting theory, but the effect--if there was one--would have been nominal, IMO. Besides, timing on routes are usually practiced and perfected in individual workouts. I would also add you can't really replicate game speed and game situations in practice. It's about getting actual game experience, and overall I thought Stanley did reasonably well this year.

The problem, IMO, besides not having a lot of talent at the WR position, was poor, predictable play calling and inconsistent OL play that frequently put Iowa in 3rd and long. In short, Stanley was frequently set up for failure.

 

[nu2u]

What if Mansel is more accurate and can scramble?

Mansell can definitely scramble. Take a quick glance at his highlight tape.

Stats back it up
661 yards on 135 carries as a jr. (+1700 pass yards); and
1129 yards on 165 carries as a sr. (+2500 pass yards)

Boyle can scramble too. 100% Stanley will start IMO unless he is dealing with an injury. But Mansell is a dual-threat QB, probably the most legit dual QB at Iowa since Banks.

 

[Johnsoda123]

Lol.

Don't watch much college football do you? The really successful teams have QBs that can run.

 

[pkongsh]

Don't watch much college football do you? The really successful teams have QBs that can run.

Funny, that's not what you said in the post I lol'd at. Do you honestly believe that we are going to have an interesting QB competition?

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Except Stanley had a great game against ISU, the Hawks second game. Stanley was not the problem with this offense.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Can we have a QB throwing to receivers that other Big Ten schools recruited? please?

 

[Johnsoda123]

Funny, that's not what you said in the post I lol'd at. Do you honestly believe that we are going to have an interesting QB competition?

Wishful thinking I guess. I enjoy watching the dynamic QBs break the backs of defenses with their running.

 

[kcgolfer]

IT WASN'T THE QB COMPETITION. It was:

a bad OL

no wideouts who could stretch the field let alone catch the ball

less than stellar play calling in combination with breaking in a very inexperienced OC

average to poor recruiting

 

[H8FULLGR8]

Which QB leaves the team?

 

[kceasthawk]

I'm a Stanley fan. His areas where he is near the bottom of the B1G are comp % (yes some drops) and sacks (yes young tackles). Mansel is supposed to be the most accurate and can run. And us cocky and expects to compete for the job. Might be interesting.

How exactly did we come to the conclusion that Mansel is the most accurate? No comparison at all, between running the scout team, and live BIG action. Stanleys % would have been significantly better had we not had so many drops this season. Go back and look at his numbers in the games were the Offense clicked, and the WR's and TE's actually caught the ball. OSU, ISU, and even this last game. His numbers are fine. By the way, I think they all come in expecting to compete for the job, if not I hope they should pack and hit the road.

 

[kceasthawk]

Which QB leaves the team?

Most intellegent post you've ever had here. No doubt your searching for someone who might throw the ball to someone wearing the same color jersey......

 

[thewop]

Remember how long the QB competition went? That the QBs were listed either/or all spring and fall camp? I wonder if Iowa had decided on Stanley much sooner, if he were getting all the starter reps in camp, if the timing on the deep balls may have shown up sooner?

I'm hoping next year, with a veteran QB, with a year in the system, command of the huddle, and an offseason of being "the guy" the offense has a chance to click earlier...

thoughts?

no

 

[PHXIowaClub]

Cy Phillips ran for over 1000 yards his senior year in high school. I'm not comparing the two. Just can't really look at high school stats to try to predict college success.

 

[Hawkfan5220]

I think Stanley did better than expected. I know I liked what I saw, and the positives far far outweighed the negatives. If you look at the Wyoming game compared to now I think he has improved a ton.

Things I think that hurt him were dropped passes, there were a shitload it seemed, young/inexperienced O-Line, and run game not clicking 100% of the time.

Now things he can work on in my view, of which i don't know shit, would be: pocket awareness, knowing when to tuck/run, work on "touch".... meaning don't rifle the ball 1000mph for a 5yd pass, and blitz/D recognition. Maybe a tad more on the deep throws but it's noticeably improved.

I think those are easily correctable as most comes with experience.