Diesel pickups should be banned. Discuss

[Gimmered]

Could be, but I’ve seen it many times before. Are they all messing with their trucks in this manner?

This was a fancy truck - not a junker.

It was likely tuned and deleted. It is becoming nearly impossible to get a newer truck deleted. The EPA has gone after the shops and fined them Hundreds of thousands. I have a small 3.0 liter diesel that I would delete in a heartbeat if I could get it done, not to roll coal but for the engine life.

 

[SolarHawk]

I used to drive a diesel Jetta. Great mileage. Don't ban diesel cars because of some idiots

This, diesel engines are better for pretty much everything except acceleration.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

There needs to be a lot higher registration fees for these trucks. They are putting out more emissions than the rest of us.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Sure, Im merely saying it is explicitly illegal to roll coal in a very limited number of states, not everywhere. So enforcement is spotty at best.

It's also illegal to murder, but that still happens.

It was likely tuned and deleted. It is becoming nearly impossible to get a newer truck deleted. The EPA has gone after the shops and fined them Hundreds of thousands. I have a small 3.0 liter diesel that I would delete in a heartbeat if I could get it done, not to roll coal but for the engine life.

That's like the same thing. The emissions controls are what's being "deleted," poisoning us all by putting asthma and cancer causing particulates in the air and heavy metals in our soil and food. All because you imagine you can squeeze a few more years from an old heap?

Owning/modifying diesels is illegal federally.

The problem is over half a million diesels have been illegally modified. I think diesels should be banned until they can invent an "unmodifiable" one that won't run without the cleaning tech installed. Literally killing and poisoning people.

Fast Times and Million-Dollar Fines: Inside the EPA's Messy War on Dirty Diesel Trucks

The federal government is ramping up its crackdown on non-compliant diesel tuners and deleted trucks. But some claim it's going way too far.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Gimmered]

Used to be Diesel cost was less than gas years ago.
Does the better millage make up the difference between gas and diesel cost nowadays?

I get 30 MPG on my Eco Diesel where a 5.7 Hemi would get ~16. There are some disadvantages to a diesel though, such as the DEF and the 8.5 quart oil changes.

 

[Gimmered]

The problem is over half a million diesels have been illegally modified. I think diesels should be banned until they can invent an "unmodifiable" one that won't run without the cleaning tech installed. Literally killing and poisoning people.

And there would be a half million and 0ne if I could I could get it done, I just can't. 'm not even finding a shop in Canada that can do a gen 3 eco diesel.

 

[funksouljon]

There needs to be a lot higher registration fees for these trucks. They are putting out more emissions than the rest of us.

Nope. The produce different and on a per mile they have reduced CO2 emissions.

If you drive a relatively recent diesel car with a particulate filter and use fuel with low sulfur content, you can enjoy reduced emission levels comparable to those of gasoline cars.

 

[billanole]

Generic conversation with a biologist friend. She said that gasoline pollutants are airborne, while diesel “go to ground”. Suggests that diesel messes with groundwater over the years…

 

[HawkinK.C.1]

The particles from the black cloud of smoke (soot) are heavier than air and settle to the ground.

 

[billanole]

The particles from the black cloud of smoke (soot) are heavier than air and settle to the ground.

And then messes with ground water.
No getting around pollution from carbon fuel usage.

 

[Colonoscopy]

That's like the same thing. The emissions controls are what's being "deleted," poisoning us all by putting asthma and cancer causing particulates in the air and heavy metals in our soil and food. All because you imagine you can squeeze a few more years from an old heap?

Owning/modifying diesels is illegal federally.

The problem is over half a million diesels have been illegally modified. I think diesels should be banned until they can invent an "unmodifiable" one that won't run without the cleaning tech installed. Literally killing and poisoning people.

Fast Times and Million-Dollar Fines: Inside the EPA's Messy War on Dirty Diesel Trucks

The federal government is ramping up its crackdown on non-compliant diesel tuners and deleted trucks. But some claim it's going way too far.

www.thedrive.com

Interesting.

I guess then the next question would be: what's the level of contribution of toxicity to the environment? And how does it compare with other sources currently doing the same thing?

 

[billanole]

Interesting.

I guess then the next question would be: what's the level of contribution of toxicity to the environment? And how does it compare with other sources currently doing the same thing?

It is bad news for all of us.

 

[Colonoscopy]

It is bad news for all of us.

I'm sure it isn't good. But you get my line of questioning. If we're letting this sort of pollutant go on a massive scale from other sources that dwarfs anything released by diesel trucks, then it's harder to complain so much about the trucks.

That said, most trucks aren't polluting this way, and disallowed to, so if they all were, maybe it would be a significant impact.

 

[jellyfish10]

There needs to be a lot higher registration fees for these trucks. They are putting out more emissions than the rest of us.

The truck referred to in the OP has been modified and sounds like had a doucher for a driver. Newer standard diesels have DEF systems for emissions control.

 

[CLUB215]

Was that before or after they falsified the mileage?

Both 😆

 

[Colonoscopy]