Do you support farm welfare?
- Thread starter runkpanole
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Yes. And I support welfare for regular folk too.
Yes. I criticize it, but that is because it seems most farmers bitch about welfare for other people but seem to think they deserve it. Or have some delusion that what they get isn't actually welfare.
Income subsidies I vote no Farmers have become very wealthy back door through ethanol.
That said, as a nation it is in our best interest to more heavily mandate and subsidize real and practical environmental programs such as a dramatic expansion of CRP and similar programs.
Blame a lot of IC flooding on farm practices. It's real.
That said, as a nation it is in our best interest to more heavily mandate and subsidize real and practical environmental programs such as a dramatic expansion of CRP and similar programs.
Blame a lot of IC flooding on farm practices. It's real.
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What is the cut off for such a distinction?
Keep in mind there are hidden subsidies for farmers too - things like ethanol - that result in higher prices for consumers.
I don’t support direct payments such as the one that just went out. I also think federal crop insurance needs reform, and honestly wouldn’t be upset if it went away entirely. I support conservation programs, but I think there’s adjustments that need to be made there as well.
Who owns it? A family that lives on the farm or a faceless corporation?
Most farmers are sitting on well over a million dollars of land and machinery. Not exactly food stamps.
You don’t think that could be easily manipulated? Boars Head for example is family owned.
This is true, but there’s a lot of operations with a 2-3 million of debt with that million of equity. But I do agree, their bad decisions shouldn’t result in federal bailout money.
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I don’t know, I’ve never seen their house. You didn’t say anything about their house, you asked who owns it.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
If it means they get government handouts you damn well better believe they will start building those pens.
That is becoming increasingly rare in Iowa. Hence the hog confinements.
Listen, both sides of my grandparents were farmers. I can tell you that they would not like what Iowa Ag has become.
You could also have a revenue limit, or an acreage limit, but to me, I'm okay with helping small farms, but Conagra and the likes can suck it.
A million dollars of land is like less than 100 acres now. 50 acres if you live in Sioux County
I guess you've never taken an economics class.
Fungibility is the ability of a good or asset to be readily interchanged for another of like kind. Goods and assets such as cars and houses that aren't interchangeable are non-fungible. Money is a prime example of a fungible asset because a $1 bill is easily convertible into four quarters or 10 dimes.
I know what fungibility is. What does that have to do with the value of land? The value of land is part of a farmer's net worth. This isn't difficult. Need money, sell land.
You can't quickly sell land and convert it into something fungible. That's the point.
Especially if the land in question includes your residence. Which was my original thought on this question.
Family farm... you live there and work there.... you get the farm subsidies.
Corporate farm with no owners living and working on the land? No subsidies for you.
One can sell farm land as soon as they put it in the market. For a LOT of money.
Farm land in Iowa sells really quick. The land is fungible.
Regulatory bullshit means you can't convert it quickly. By "quickly" I mean today.
Trad....you are out of your lane here. I'm a novice Iowan in regards to transactions. But the money is easily transferable. At least a down payment. There are no POOR farmers in Iowa.
