I think Vance is getting played in this Ukraine/Putin thing too.
Do you think Vance is totally aware of Trump's motives?
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Agree. He doesn't fully realize which horse he is hitched to.
Vance has had a taste of russian $$$$ and he appears to like them.
I think he actuality does know and is complicit because Putin has a thick stack of photos of Vance being railed by dudes…and maybe even one of Vance railing a couch.
Vance knows and is playing the role. He's Peter Thiel's puppet after all and he made that choice.
Could be argued Vance played Trump yesterday.
That's because he looks like a bitch.
I think he knows what's going on. Not sure he knows why Trump has Putin's cock permanently installed in his ass, but Vance otherwise knows the game plan and faithfully executes.
I actually don’t think it’s about money. Trump just sees leverage against allies because the US has an alliance with them and he’s trying to exploit that relationship. He also gravitates towards authoritarian leaders. In basic terms, he’s a bully and that’s the only way he knows how to behave.
vance came off more boorish than his boss which is quite the feat to pull off. what he said was so childish i dont think it was planned. some people (and i observe this regularly on calls that have top level leadership) feel compelled to speak even if if all they have is bs just to mark their presence
I wonder if Vance thought his outburst yesterday was an audition of sorts for the big chair should it open up soon.
'Could be a lot of reasons why he did that yesterday and it could even be as simple as he's tired of playing 2nd fiddle to Elon
That is some pretty deep thinking there, Ivan.
I think he is looking ahead to 2028. When asked about Vance in 2028 Trump did not endorse him so I believe Vance is taking calculated shots in an attempt to stay relevant for 28. Yesterdays meeting didn’t spiral out of control until Vance inserted himself into it.
Good point. Vance is a 2nd stringer all the way.
You sound like an old hag who voted for Trump thrice and would love to suck off Vance and DeSantis at the same time.
Hey, that’s deep. Especially using a big boy word like “thrice” could even fool some people into thinking you might have an IQ above room temperature.
But we know better, don’t we?
Poor little loser.
I’ll yield to a leftist - who like the other tantrum thrower lefties on here - has expertise in recognizing 2nd stringers.
I'm more curious if Rubio knows. He looks like he was forced to watch his parents have sex yesterday.
“Hey, that’s deep” and trying to attack my IQ is just a textbook goldmom response after starting a personal attack with such a Mensa genius level statement I want to be railed by men, made all the more better by the fact most here know of your subpar IQ and complete lack of self awareness.
I can tell from your unwanted pugnacious appearances here and in other threads that once again you are spending a weekend drinking alone, wasted before 2PM, sad, angry and bitter at how this is the way your “golden” years turned out.
Sad.
Trump is a known liar. Do you think he wouldn't lie to JD?
I see Vance as trying to set up for the drump tapping out during his term. The donald is fat and has a chitty diet.
Thiel has his boy in line to be next up.
Vance is playing for the endorsement in the next election. He sold his principles for a short path to power long ago. The guy wouldn’t even fully condemn the “normalize Indian hate” statement, and he’s married to an Indian woman.
Pecking order at the WH...
Musk..Trump...Vance...
The signs were always there.
Remember when wearing that shirt would have killed any political future?
Pepperidge Farms remem......F it! Burn it down
You have everything backward here. Vance is Peter Thiel's boy, JD is a Putin friendly fascist. But because it's a category error for the MSM or even the Democratic party to look at a Vance for what he really is, he gets normalized. He has to be normalized, as with Rubio he doesn't come off as the standard issue MAGA grotesque so he's a perceived "normal" among the Trump Maga nutball entourage.
I used to have that shirt and wore it (have a decent t-shirt game). Urban Outfitters used to sell it. I know, CSB👊🏾
