Does everyone stay?
- Thread starter amahawk
- Start date
here is an excellent question . if woody was a great rebounder why did he play so few minutes his first 3 years ? some to ponder as you two continue your woody lovefest . lol
The fact that you don’t that answer proves you don’t know what you are talking about.
I think Garza’s biggest issues are his hand strength and positioning. He often has a rebound knocked out of his hands. And if he concentrated on blocking out athleticism wouldn’t matter. He has the length and basketball IQ to be a great rebounder, but he has to want to be.
I just have to think someone moves in. I think one of our post players could move on. Here’s my guess:
Cook- goes pro over seas
Nunge- transfers closer to home
Pemsl- retire/player coach citing knee issues
I’d pick those 3 in that order. I don’t how there will be enough minutes for Cook, Garza, Kriener, Pemsl, Nunge, and Patrick.
Cook- goes pro over seas
Nunge- transfers closer to home
Pemsl- retire/player coach citing knee issues
I’d pick those 3 in that order. I don’t how there will be enough minutes for Cook, Garza, Kriener, Pemsl, Nunge, and Patrick.
If Nunge was going to transfer he would have done it prior to this season. No way he sits out again next season and loses a year of eligibility.
Agreed. He definitely has a ways to go to be solid rebounder I just don’t think it’s a lack of effort.
That is all you have after you you were called out as a liar? Come on, back up your idiotic claim you pathetic attention whore.
I think Cook is leaving. Whether or not he is ready is irrelevant. I just think he wants to go. I think it will be Garza, Pemsl, Nunge, and Kriener playing the 4 and 5. Patrick will not play inside (at least not next year). I think he will play 5-8 minutes backing up Wieskamp.
It has become evident that for the myriad grief that Woodbury, Gesell and Clemmons took here, they all team-first guys who were all at least average Big 10 defenders. And Iowa's best defenses under Fran were when they played. NCAA tournaments their last 3 years (and 1 win in 2 of them).
What are you talking about? You honestly think Nunge would make up some hardship scenario to transfer? God, we have some idiotic fans.
For those of you wanting Cook, Daily, and Moss to move along, you will be rewarded with the most unathletic team in the Power 5. If they are forced out or asked to move along, it is a further indictment on Fran’s recruiting and inability to develop talent. If everyone comes back, we basically add 5 players and lose 1. Fran has not shown the ability in the past to be able to divvy up minutes while some guys are forced to sit. He will play too many guys in an attempt to keep everyone happy and thus prevent any type of flow. I love Iowa basketball, but I’m from optimistic about how this will shake out.
Nope just an option. Do you honestly think that kid will play over Pemsl/Kriener/Cook/Garza? If you do, get me some of what your smoking.
Clearly one of us is smoking, and it's not me. The kid will play next year, and the year after Cook/Kriener are gone for sure. Hell, Cook could be gone this year. What you are making doesn't make any sense at all. None.
You don't understand the word, and when things don't work out that doesn't equate to hypocrisy. 50% more wins, somewhat better defense. You're satisfaction is not a determinant in whether it's hypocrisy.
Fran should not push Dailey out the door. Him asking MD to move along is an indictment on his own ability to identify talent and/or develop talent. We have several players that have had their confidence shaken so bad they seem like they don’t want to be there. I’m in the minority and I realize that.
It's not my satisfaction that is the issue. If the Nebraska loss doesn't make you wonder what the hell Fran is doing then I don't know what will. Lose to a depleted team who becomes more depleted throughout the game and has to play the equivalent of Ash and Till significant minutes. I thought Fran told us last year there were going to be changes with strength, conditioning, late game situations, defense and coaching. Fran talking about all this stuff and doing little / nothing to address it is either dishonest or hypocritical. I chose the lesser of the two evils.
I like Dailey and feel bad for the kid. Not sure why Fran has been so enamored with Moss all season. When Moss is off Dailey should get more PT. He is at least a threat to drive and while neither are great options, having Moss not even look at the basket and pose no threat to drive makes it easier for teams to shade Bohannon and Wieskamp.
Unfortunately we have some specialists, one trick ponies that excel at one thing and struggle mightily at others. I now this is an unpopular opinion, and I’m not bagging on Connor, but with his increased usage in end of game situations, if I was Moss or Dailey I would be less than thrilled with the lineup. Again, I put the onus on the paid professionals not the players.
Fran's ability to recruit is definitely not top notch. I do think coaches miss on some players, Dailey is definitely one of them. However, if we used this logic to fire every coach, I'm not sure there would be any coaches left. Fran doesn't have to ask MD to move on, but he can certainly explain to him, that next year there won't be any minutes. Pretty sure this is the same convo he had with Ellingson.
Baer, Cook, Moss, Garza, Bohannon, Pemsl, and Weiskamp weren't misses. We just haven't had a number one to run our team for 3 years now. Pretty sure Cook was supposed to be that guy, but he's not. Jury still out on Nunge and Frederick.
Dailey is on equal footing with a lot of guys on the roster. He just doesn't get gifted minutes like Moss and Connor. Dailey's jumper is 10x anything Connor is capable of. The ball actually has rotation when it leaves his hand.
Good post. Dailey isn't great but he is at least capable of staying in the same zip code as the guy he is guarding and will, on occasion, drive. I would love to see him go out and play without hesitation. Maybe no difference in the result but like other guys, I keep thinking there is more in the tank.
Ok, he is better than Connor at defense, LOLOLOL! He has a lower FG% than Connor, let that sink in. 10x's better. He's in his 3rd year in the program, maybe it's time to go find PT somewhere else. For the record, I think it'd be best if JT came in next year and showed he's the #1 PG and Connor played baseball. However, knowing Fran, that won't happen.
I never said Wieskamp wanted to transfer so not sure why you quotes my post and asked about it.
The love for Dailey on this board is baffling. He is, by far, the worst player that we trot out there for regular minutes.
I was squeezing two answers into one post. Weiskamp was definitely not on yours...it was PapaBeef
Agreed. Way too many games of still giving Moss a chance when he is doing nothing. I know Dailey might not be the option but honestly, I'm not sure he is any worse of an option than Moss 3/4th's of the time. Again, that is why Connor plays more then he should because Moss and Dailey can't get it done. People talking about these guys confidence shaken, I guess I put that more on the players not being mentally tough enough because in my eyes, players like Moss and Dailey have been given plenty of opportunities and Fran keeps giving it to them. People want to talk about Moss having low confidence because he sits for long stretches in the 2nd Half? That is totally on Moss if that's the case. Fran still lets him start and still gives him 25 minutes a game when in reality, the coaches at the blue blood schools would have recruited over him and relegated him to the bench and given him little to no time to the point where he would have transferred or have to be happy getting mop-up duty. If Moss and Dailey want more minutes, they need to do more with the ones they get.
Totally agree (except for Moss). It seems a lot of people equate "misses" with not being a superstar. Kriener and Pemsl weren't supposed to ever be starts. They are rotational players. You can not and are not going to have 10 all-americans on your team. You need players like Baer, Kriener, and Pemsl to be the 6th, 7th, 8th men in a rotation. But like you said, Cook hasn't lived up to what was expected. He's still a good college player but he is not equipped to be "the man" that a really good team needs to carry them to more then just being a NCAA tourney team.
I am hopeful Wieskamp can be that guy. I do believe he has a much better shot then Cook ever had because Wieskamp has already been THE MAN in High School (Cook was never the go-to guy on his team). Plus, Wieskamp has a much better all-around game then Cook could ever dream of having and he has the necessary athleticism and mental toughness.
I don’t agree but respect your opinion. To have a swoon that has affected so many players has to be more than coincidence. Let’s face it, anyone that gives a shit about Iowa men’s hoops is looking for answers and there are a lot of factors for the late season collapse. I still think the blame falls at Fran’s feet. He constructed the roster. He is in charge of rotations. His temper has again been a distraction. The defense again offers little resistance. Even if Fran forced players out or they left on their own, I don’t have a lot of faith that he can bring in instant impact players.
Similar threads
