I think it came down to execution. Dropped balls and poor offensive line play. Throw in a dash of Beathard struggling a bit.
Does Iowa play chicken #$#$ football?
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Sorry about that, just had to see who was altering the shits, HR or posters.
Playing in the FBS is about all that Iowa and 'bama have in common.
Give Iowa 'bama's 2nd teamers and they would improve instantly.
The significant talent gap notwithstanding, the offensive game plan was again too conservative. The last series was ridiculous and made no sense given a defense that had been moved on up and down the field all second half.
Iowa should have a talent advantage on any FCS team they play. I think they had that advantage against ndsu as well. It was just a relatively small advantage. The talent gap 'bama has over Iowa significantly exceeds the talent gap Iowa has over ndsu.
Give Iowa 'bama's 2nd teamers and they would improve instantly.
The significant talent gap notwithstanding, the offensive game plan was again too conservative. The last series was ridiculous and made no sense given a defense that had been moved on up and down the field all second half.
Iowa should have a talent advantage on any FCS team they play. I think they had that advantage against ndsu as well. It was just a relatively small advantage. The talent gap 'bama has over Iowa significantly exceeds the talent gap Iowa has over ndsu.
I was at OSU/OU last week. Swagger was OSU not taking the direct path to their sideline upon entering the field. No, they deliberately ran through where OU was warming up and sent a message. Sitting with wifies OU friends they did not like. Not talking class/no class that was a message pure and simple. OP's friend is right.
Over signing has helped several SEC teams, including Alabama.
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I agree to an extent with the fans of other fanbases about Iowa. They play conservative; which is what I assume the Bama fan meant with "chicken **** football".
Kirk's style of playing not to lose has been an achilles heel of sorts for Iowa football. Kirk doesn't always play not to lose. But the only time he plays to win is when the team is behind.
A team playing not to lose will more often than not lose to a team that has nothing to lose.
The OSU fan is right about teams not fearing Iowa football, this has been true the last decade. You couldn't say that about the Iowa teams in the early to mid 2000's. Something somewhere changed after 2005.
Iowa fans like to compare Kirk to Belichick being that they worked together long ago. For the most part you can see the similarities between the two. But this year, you can really see the difference between the two, and it's glaring. Belichick really flexes his system to accommodate the players he has on the field.
Kirk's style of playing not to lose has been an achilles heel of sorts for Iowa football. Kirk doesn't always play not to lose. But the only time he plays to win is when the team is behind.
A team playing not to lose will more often than not lose to a team that has nothing to lose.
The OSU fan is right about teams not fearing Iowa football, this has been true the last decade. You couldn't say that about the Iowa teams in the early to mid 2000's. Something somewhere changed after 2005.
Iowa fans like to compare Kirk to Belichick being that they worked together long ago. For the most part you can see the similarities between the two. But this year, you can really see the difference between the two, and it's glaring. Belichick really flexes his system to accommodate the players he has on the field.
Yup, the bolded is totally correct. Iowa was a force in those years, not just a good team, but a team that could play with the best and win.
Well tell your friend if we could buy 5 star athletes, turn our heads when they get pulled over driving 70,000 SUV's and had 20 offensive and defensive analysts that get paid heavily not to coach, we may play more like them.
Your friend is a douche.
Okay, I will. You're going to ruin his day though.
People like this make me laugh. They tie their self worth to the accomplishments of a football team in which they have no involvement in. They sit on their butt and watch and then go to work and brag about how great they are even though they doesn't include him. I have found these people generally don't have a lot to brag about with their own lives.
That will probably ruin his day even more.
Does your Alabama friend know the following?
--Second lowest high school graduation rate in the US (after Mississippi)
--High rates of illiteracy
Yet that particular state's biggest university somehow stands at the pinnacle of big-time schools spending enormous sums of money in order to "win" the athletic arms race.
Like it or not, some schools--look no further than Alabama's little brother, UAB--are waking up to the fact they simply cannot afford to participate in the arms race. They have no hope of reaching the golden ring--whatever that is and whatever it means.
Iowa is clearly not one of those schools. Indeed, Iowa, like Alabama, appears quite interested in investing in the arms race via obscene coaching salaries and tremendous facilities. BTW, I would like to believe the University of Iowa is more committed to playing with integrity than winning at all costs like Alabama, but maybe that's just me.
However you size it, spending on big-time college sports seems entirely out of proportion to its real importance, not to mention the dwindling percentage of support provided for education. It is possible that some day, we Americans are going to wake up and wonder what happened to our public schools and universities. For some, that day is already here.
Meanwhile, keep on cheering. Go Hawks!
--Second lowest high school graduation rate in the US (after Mississippi)
--High rates of illiteracy
Yet that particular state's biggest university somehow stands at the pinnacle of big-time schools spending enormous sums of money in order to "win" the athletic arms race.
Like it or not, some schools--look no further than Alabama's little brother, UAB--are waking up to the fact they simply cannot afford to participate in the arms race. They have no hope of reaching the golden ring--whatever that is and whatever it means.
Iowa is clearly not one of those schools. Indeed, Iowa, like Alabama, appears quite interested in investing in the arms race via obscene coaching salaries and tremendous facilities. BTW, I would like to believe the University of Iowa is more committed to playing with integrity than winning at all costs like Alabama, but maybe that's just me.
However you size it, spending on big-time college sports seems entirely out of proportion to its real importance, not to mention the dwindling percentage of support provided for education. It is possible that some day, we Americans are going to wake up and wonder what happened to our public schools and universities. For some, that day is already here.
Meanwhile, keep on cheering. Go Hawks!
Consider some of the plays we ran against NDSU:
The game was lost because of a lack of execution, not because of a lack of aggression. That's not to say that the coaches aren't culpable for the sloppy execution, because they are responsible for preparing the players to execute the plays they call. However, everyone wants to blame the loss because our coaches were too conservative when in reality our lack of execution played a far more substantial role. That's not an answer fans want to hear, which is about the only reason why so many reject it.
- First play of the game at our own 2 yard line, the staff calls for a play action pass. CJB misses an open receiver.
- 4th and short in NDSU territory. We attempt a pass to pick up the first down and score a TD.
- Iowa ball at our own 21 with less than 2 minutes on the clock. We pass three times, three incompletions. Since virtually no time runs of the clock, we punt to NDSU giving them a chance to put together a last-minute drive before the half.
- CJB leaves the game with an injury, we bring in a true freshman QB in a tie game. First play we run play action when everyone in the stadium assumed we'd run it, and Stanley connects on a 37 yard pass.
The game was lost because of a lack of execution, not because of a lack of aggression. That's not to say that the coaches aren't culpable for the sloppy execution, because they are responsible for preparing the players to execute the plays they call. However, everyone wants to blame the loss because our coaches were too conservative when in reality our lack of execution played a far more substantial role. That's not an answer fans want to hear, which is about the only reason why so many reject it.
The "reaction" has ALWAYS been pretty positive anytime Captain For Life does something out of the ordinary for him, even when it fails. Something, Anything, but the status quo often excites the majority of Iowa fans, IMO.
And in this particular instance, how the hell could anyone criticize an attempt to throw the ball or roll out your running QB when you've spent the ENTIRE 2nd half getting your ass handed to you trying to run the ball? I would have welcomed it, especially considering the personnel present in the backfield (Daniels instead of our playmaking tailback Wadley).
The Captain essentially tried to beat a square peg into a round hole, and stunningly it didn't work................................again.
What does Bama do that is so much schematically superior to Iowa? They have superior athletes at virtually every position, however in my view Saban and Ferentz are quite similar in their approaches as to how they want to play winning football. Again to me I don't see a big difference aside from Bama having size and speed and Iowa usually having size or speed but not a big combination of both.
OSU is a special team the last five years or so. Blowing up Wisconsin, Alabama and then Oregon like they did has given the B1G an aura of respectability that we all benefit from and our teams play to preserve in the pre and bowl seasons. That said, I don't think anyone on here who roots for Iowa or Nebraska really thinks beyond the West division because that CCG should include the Buckeyes or whoever the hell can manage to beat them. The MSU/OSU fluke from last year had Iowa on the cusp of a CFP game.
To answer the OP, absolutely. People don't fill Kinnick to watch a team assume the fetal position to OMG hopefully please Jesus just this once let me preserve this lead for 5 minutes I'll play hard next week. Nebraska had a bit of that going on last year, too and it cost them some close ones IMO.
If someone deserves it, it's Alabama. If OSU is the best team we have and rolls through our conference like it isn't there I expect them to show up for the CFP and take it right out of their entitled hands. Again. Every G## D#@### time they can. What team wouldn't want the coaching, the talent, the chemistry, the moxie to do what they've done and recently?
I've lived in five B1G states to include Ohio, Iowa and Nebraska. The B1G must thrive. It's the larger picture that colors every weekend.
Agree that Alabama's schedule very suspect...except NAMES should be listed--regularly. Other than USC, Crimson Tide plays Western Kentucky, Kent State and Chattanooga. That's a whole lot of extra time to prepare for the likes of Mississippi, A & M, Auburn and Arkansas. Sure, they're great, but if the world loudly belittles the Hawkeye schedule that same LOUD standard should apply to Alabama.
You haven't played college level football Hawktimus Prime have you? I doubt your "colleague" has either. Nobody who has would call a reliance on predictable sets per series "chicken$h#t".
I'm learning a lot in this thread ....
1. Iowa doesn't have the bravado or swagger that Alabama and tOSU have. I just love it when Iowa is compared to those schools.
2. All things bad about Iowa football are KF's fault, but he gets little credit for all things good.
And, the #1 continuing theme ...
3. Plays that don't work are conservative and lack imagination. Plays that do work are creative.
Iowa was not dominant last year. They started slowly and could have lost to ISU, Pitt and should have lost to Wisky. Execution has been a problem and CJ is taking too many sacks. The defense is getting pushed around, which is pretty hard to watch. We've had poorly timed penalties and critical drops.
The only time I have been really pissed at the coaches was the last series against NDSU. Very conservative. Otherwise, this year's performance has been a complete team effort - coaches and players IMO.
1. Iowa doesn't have the bravado or swagger that Alabama and tOSU have.
I just love it when Iowa is compared to those schools. 2. All things bad about Iowa football are KF's fault, but he gets little credit for all things good.
And, the #1 continuing theme ...
3. Plays that don't work are conservative and lack imagination. Plays that do work are creative.
Iowa was not dominant last year. They started slowly and could have lost to ISU, Pitt and should have lost to Wisky. Execution has been a problem and CJ is taking too many sacks. The defense is getting pushed around, which is pretty hard to watch. We've had poorly timed penalties and critical drops.
The only time I have been really pissed at the coaches was the last series against NDSU. Very conservative. Otherwise, this year's performance has been a complete team effort - coaches and players IMO.
iOWA LOST FOR ONE REASON--THEY PLAYED A LACKLUSTER UNINSPIRED GAME ACROSS THE BOARD. take the bs elsewhere....and speaking of scheduling--check out the games bama schedules and get back to us ok.....
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