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'Working my tail-end off just to get by’: This Walmart worker blasted older Americans for calling young folks lazy — blamed them for 'creating' the inflation crisis, ruining the economy.​


In recent years, the belief that younger generations are reluctant to engage in traditional 9-5 jobs has risen. It’s thought by some that Gen Z is seeking more flexibility and a work-life balance that aligns with their personal values and lifestyle. While this may be true for some, it's not the case for everyone.

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The frustrations of Gen Z​

In her candid video, Chailyn, a Walmart employee, stated, “I cannot stand how the news has been dogging Gen Z and calling them lazy for not wanting to work 9-5 for the rest of their lives… I work five days out of the week, 40 hours a week. I [still] do not make enough to live on my own.”

She then highlighted the stark financial disparities that exist between her generation and previous ones.

“Twenty years ago, when you were getting started [with your career], you could live on your own. Twenty years ago when you first started, you were able to do everything that I am now struggling to do,” she said.

The video has struck a chord, amassing more than 6.6 million views, 1.4 million likes and almost 39,000 comments at the time of this writing.

Chailyn's frustration was palpable as she voiced the sentiments of Gen Z when confronting the criticisms often directed at her generation.

“You can sit here and call Gen Z lazy all you want, but I have been working my tail-end off just to barely make it by, and respectfully, I don't want to do that for the rest of my life,” she said. “I don't want to work my tail-end off, wasting all of my life working, just to barely be able to pay my bills.”

Chailyn concluded her message with a pointed argument, shifting the blame to previous generations for the current state of the economy and the burden it places on Gen Z.

“You tell me how it got ruined. We can sit here and we can call Gen Z lazy all you want. But you let the economy turn into what it did.”

She added, “You let it all run to hell, and now it's Gen Z's ‘fault’ because we don't want to work to fix your mistakes.”

The generation war​

Chailyn's assertion that older generations have allowed the economy to "run to hell" may seem somewhat harsh. However, she raised a valid concern by drawing attention to the significant changes in the economy over the past two decades; changes that have left the numbers stacked unfavorably against younger generations.


A prime example is the transformation in the housing market. The surge in real estate prices have created a landscape vastly different from what previous generations encountered.

Data from the U.S. Census Bureau underscores this trend: the median sales price of houses sold in America went from $191,900 in Q3 of 2003 to $431,000 in Q3 of 2023, marking a staggering 125% increase over 20 years.

Wages have seen growth during this period. Between 2002 and 2022, the median personal income in the U.S. rose from $22,120 to $40,480, according to Census Bureau data, which is an 83% increase. However, when juxtaposed with the housing price surge, this wage growth appears insufficient.

Consequently, today's young adults, who are often starting their careers with modest salaries, are now finding themselves grappling with the challenges of uncovering affordable housing — a struggle that is emblematic of the broader economic hurdles they face. This struggle is intensified when also considering the escalating costs of other essentials such as food, health care, and education.

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There are lazy people in all generations, but I do find young people take their jobs less seriously and have unrealistic expectations.
 
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There are lazy people in all generations, but I do find young people take their jobs less seriously and have unrealistic expectations.
I have no idea if it's generational or person specific. While I didn't get all excited to go to Publix, I did take my job very seriously (ages 16-19). In a very short period of time I went from bagger, to stockman to night-shift coordinator. I took my job serious. My dad taught me that A. any job worth doing is worth doing well and B. if you're getting paid to do a job, earn it.

Both my daughter's work hard at their jobs as well and they're millennials.
 
What is she, 20 years old? Yes, you work for very little money at that age. Do kids want six figure salaries at that age now?
 
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She has learned that working at Walmart is a low skill job.

What has really hurt low income folks is the cost of rentals which has been filed by the fact we have so many more low income people in this country than we did before Covid.
 
I wonder how hard she’s looking for a better paying job? I’m also curious about her monthly expenses. My company has been hiring for over a year. And will continue to do so. She could come work where I’m at and make 80k a year off the bat. In a bare bones, headquartered job. We’re not unique in that aspect. Get off of social media, Chailyn, and get busy finding something better.
 
I can sort of see her argument.
I am an older millennial and I worked a crap ton when I first started working. I had a full time job and a part time job for about 10 years usually working about 55-60 hours Monday-Friday.

I didn’t mind working that much but it didn’t allow you to do anything else and I could never do it today. Sure you’re just starting out but it would be different if companies actually cared about you and rewarded you.

The other thing I did and wished I did sooner was buy a house and have people I knew live with me. For about 7 years I had roommates paying my mortgage. I charged them less then they would for a crappy apartment so we all benefitted.

It’s a struggle starting out and unfortunately I don’t feel like it gets much easier as you get older because the price of everything keeps increasing faster then my wages.
 
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I think the Gen Z is comparing their current situation to the current Gen X situation rather than what Gen X experienced at the same point in life.

Going back to when I was in my early 20s I worked 60+ hours a week, lived in a studio apartment in a bad neighborhood (roaches came free), drove a 15 year old Ford Escort, and ate a lot of ramen. After one year I moved to a slightly bigger studio in a slightly better neighborhood. Two years later I moved into a 4 bedroom apartment with 3 roommates and had a concrete floor/walls basement bedroom. There was no travel, no new car, no concerts, etc.

Today, 25 years later, I have advanced in my career to the point that my house is paid off, kids are graduating from college debt free, have never bought a new car, don't really travel much, etc. It was a long road with a lot of lean times but I have "earned" my current station in life, something I think this woman (and much of the millenials/Gen Z want to ignore.
 
She has learned that working at Walmart is a low skill job.

What has really hurt low income folks is the cost of rentals which has been filed by the fact we have so many more low income people in this country than we did before Covid.
I agree rental costs are ridiculous. My San Antonio Mortgage is less than my daughter's MD rent.
 
Are these two friends?

Wait, wait, wait. Just hold the phone here a minute folks.

Are you all trying to convince Ol' Doodle that the heroic act of graduating with a whole, entire 4-year bachelor's degree doesn't automatically install you in a Fortune 500 C suite at seven figures/year!?

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I don't think some of you are realistic about the cost of living these days. Renter's are getting gouged. Food prices are insane. Give her some slack. Even if she is whiney.
 
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She's not entirely wrong, although I do differ with her point as to who is the culprit in the disparity between house prices and wages, blaming an entire generation is intellectually lazy. That blame can be laid at the feet of policy makers, in particular those who govern and oversee the tax environment in this country, i.e. politicians and the corporate/private interest overlords who fund their respective campaign war chests.

Using the numbers from the article, from 2002-2022 housing prices increased at an annualized rate of 4.13% and personal income during the same period increased at an annualized rate of 3.07%. Doesn't seem like a big difference at first glance but compounded over those 20 years it becomes an obvious disparity. Personally I don't think 4.1% annual increase in house prices seems entirely out of the norm, but a lot of those price jumps have come at the tail end of this timeframe which makes it seem much worse.

It's been reported and discussed ad nauseum for years and years of how wealth concentration and accumulation is grossly out of balance in this country and this resulting creation of a ruling elite wealthy upper class and the problems that will spring forward from those circumstances. This has been a deliberate exercise by "the haves" using their money and political influence to squeeze what little wealth remains in the bottom 90% of US families, "the have nots". The top 10% of families have 66.7% of all the wealth in this country (average of $6.5 M), the bottom 90% of families "enjoy" what remains and the lowest 50% of families have an average wealth total of a scant $50,000. This trend continues to accelerate and yet many of the have nots who are at the very bottom rung of the wealth ladder have been convinced by the ruling class and their paid for politicians that they really do care about them and have their best interests in mind. I've got news for them, they don't. In fact those elitists wouldn't even bother to piss on them even if they're on fire. I guess we all deserve the results we get by continuing to ignore this persistent problem.
 
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I think the Gen Z is comparing their current situation to the current Gen X situation rather than what Gen X experienced at the same point in life.

Going back to when I was in my early 20s I worked 60+ hours a week, lived in a studio apartment in a bad neighborhood (roaches came free), drove a 15 year old Ford Escort, and ate a lot of ramen. After one year I moved to a slightly bigger studio in a slightly better neighborhood. Two years later I moved into a 4 bedroom apartment with 3 roommates and had a concrete floor/walls basement bedroom. There was no travel, no new car, no concerts, etc.

Today, 25 years later, I have advanced in my career to the point that my house is paid off, kids are graduating from college debt free, have never bought a new car, don't really travel much, etc. It was a long road with a lot of lean times but I have "earned" my current station in life, something I think this woman (and much of the millenials/Gen Z want to ignore.
Yep. Started out much the same. First job out of college in 1995 was for $15,000/year. Was happy if at the end of the month I had $100 in my checking account. Bought my first house in 1997 and there were times during those first 5 years where I sweated that mortgage payment. Things really didn't start getting better with more breathing room until I was 10 years into my working career, so early 30's.

This girl in the OP is 20 years old and working at Walmart. I guess I would tell her "welcome to adulthood".

I have zero sympathies.
 
I don't think some of you are realistic about the cost of living these days. Renter's are getting gouged. Food prices are insane. Give her some slack. Even if she is whiney.
Fair, but I feel like she thinks we all started out living like bosses. I made 24K as a second lieutenant in the USAF. Looks like it is about $46K now. We rented for years before buying our first house, and we would have to so again. And, the inability to afford rent on one's own when starting out isn't exactly a new thing. Even in the glorified version of the 90s depicted on Friends, the friends had roommates. And, she acts like she won't gain more experience and command a higher salary as she develops, which is silly.
 
Fair, but I feel like she thinks we all started out living like bosses. I made 24K as a second lieutenant in the USAF. Looks like it is about $46K now. We rented for years before buying our first house, and we would have to so again. And, the inability to afford rent on one's own when starting out isn't exactly a new thing. Even in the glorified version of the 90s depicted on Friends, the friends had roommates. And, she acts like she won't gain more experience and command a higher salary as she develops, which is silly.

I get it that the generation thinks everything to be given to them. That's on the parents.

However, the fact remains that it is nearly impossible to make ends meet or put some money away to buy a house when you are renting.

I guess I'm a little jaded by watching landlords (slum lords) come into my courtroom and trying to screw over tennants
 
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I get it that the generation thinks everything to be given to them. That's on the parents.

However, the fact remains that it is nearly impossible to make ends meet or put some money away to buy a house when you are renting.

I guess I'm a little jaded by watching landlords (slum lords) come into my courtroom and trying to screw over tennants
From time to time when I am driving, I like to listen to the David Ramsey podcast. Usually, it is not even him hosting it but other personalities. I think a good chunk of their advice is ill-advised, but I do like some their sayings. One is that if she wants to get out of debt and save, she needs a bigger shovel. How do you get a bigger shovel? Study useful things whether in college or a trade school/program. Don't take a job that literally anyone in America can do - with basically an unlimited supply of potential workers - and then complain the demand curve doesn't meet the supply curve high enough to your liking. Roll up your sleeves and get on a different supply curve with strong demand, especially if you are young and without a family.
 
We’ve gotten to the point where in much of the populated US, average wages can’t cover rent, food, and other bills.

Why bust your ass if you can’t make ends meet anyway? Why give a shit about an employer if they won’t pay a living wage?

I think it’s less a generational thing and more of a natural human response. But it seems generational because the older people absolutely do not understand, and therefore judge. As an FYI… I’m in my mid 40’s… i’m the bridge generation between these groups.
 
I get it that the generation thinks everything to be given to them. That's on the parents.
Maybe so. My son has friends who have zero chores and most of my daughter's friends never had to hold down part-time jobs. My middle child told me there were way too many people in her 2020 basic training unit that didn't know how to simply clean a bathroom. Of course, nothing is a general rule, but I have to wonder if the percentages of that are increasing and not holding the same.
 
Maybe so. My son has friends who have zero chores and most of my daughter's friends never had to hold down part-time jobs. My middle child told me there were way too many people in her 2020 basic training unit that didn't know how to simply clean a bathroom. Of course, nothing is a general rule, but I have to wonder if the percentages of that are increasing and not holding the same.

The girls here will clean. The boys wouldn't have a clue to clean, do their laundry, etc. All they do is play video games.
 
Fair, but I feel like she thinks we all started out living like bosses. I made 24K as a second lieutenant in the USAF. Looks like it is about $46K now. We rented for years before buying our first house, and we would have to so again. And, the inability to afford rent on one's own when starting out isn't exactly a new thing. Even in the glorified version of the 90s depicted on Friends, the friends had roommates. And, she acts like she won't gain more experience and command a higher salary as she develops, which is silly.
Making $46k a year, having saved up $20k for a down payment (which, let’s be honest, is not happening without family help), with only $500/month in other bills (again unrealistically low) you could only afford a $116,500 home.

I just checked the entire metropolitan area of the major city that I live just outside of. There were a total of 32 houses that cheap. Most of them were boarded up, or were two bedroom, one bath 1000 foot home in an area that is extremely dangerous.

And that is being extremely generous with the down payment and super low other bills.

A cheap house that is not completely scary would cost at least $235,000. To afford that, you would have to make about $80,000 a year. Which is about $38.50/hour. Less than 50% of households in the entire country make enough money to barely afford a first homeowner crappy house.

What has happened, is the older generations were able to buy cheap starter homes, upgraded a few times and now have equity built up. Where most first-time home buyers are pretty screwed. Especially because they’re now largely competing for “starter homes” with cash offers from downsizing boomers.
 
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Making $46k a year, having saved up $20k for a down payment (which, let’s be honest, is not happening without family help), with only $500/month in other bills (again unrealistically low) you could only afford a $1116,500 home.

I just checked the entire metropolitan area of the major city that I live just outside of. There were a total of 32 houses that cheap. Most of them were boarded up, or were two bedroom, one bath 1000 foot home in an area that is extremely dangerous.

And that is being extremely generous with the down payment and super low other bills.

A cheap house that is not completely scary would cost at least $235,000. To afford that, you would have to make about $80,000 a year. Which is about $38.50/hour. Less than 50% of households in the entire country make enough money to barely afford a first homeowner crappy house.

What has happened, is the older generations were able to buy cheap starter homes, upgraded a few times and now have equity built up. Where most first-time home buyers are pretty screwed. Especially because they’re now largely competing for “starter homes” with cash offers from downsizing boomers.
Income is not static. If she joined the USAF, she would rent at first or live in base housing, like most of us did. Assuming she wasn't a total f*ck up and wanted to make a career of it, after her 2nd year she would be a first lieutenant making about $61K. After her 4th year she'd be a captain making about $82K. Then you throw in the free healthcare and dental, housing allowance, COLA depending on where live, and you go from there. The USAF isn't for everyone but it offers a pretty solid life, at least starting out, and once you get out, you have the GI Bill to pay for grad/professional school. If you're willing to put in the work, there are similar opportunities in the private sector, with whom the USAF competes for bodies.
 
“Twenty years ago, when you were getting started [with your career], you could live on your own. Twenty years ago when you first started, you were able to do everything that I am now struggling to do,” she said.
This was not my experience getting started 25 years ago. I had roommate(s) so I could afford to live in a place nicer than I could have afforded alone.
 
She has a point but it’s a blind one at that.

Some of us have failed our kids with the everyone gets a trophy when failing or not winning. This is now catching up to us. For those parents that did it, take care of your kids and tell them to STFU. You are not a victim so quit acting like spoiled rotten kids and go get a fuacking job or two like everyone else has done over the years to make ends meet.
 
This was not my experience getting started 25 years ago. I had roommate(s) so I could afford to live in a place nicer than I could have afforded alone.
30+ years ago I moved into an apartment with a card table and one folding chair that I borrowed from my parents, and a 19 inch TV. I played on the floor with a pillow and blanket and watched TV.

After a couple months somebody put an old couch out by the dumpster. I waited until late at night and pulled it into my place.

lol.
 
I don't think some of you are realistic about the cost of living these days. Renter's are getting gouged. Food prices are insane. Give her some slack. Even if she is whiney.
I agree. Life is a hot mess. Look at that 5 guys thread. 24 bucks for a burger meal. INSANE. When I was rocking out in my pos, dodge omni circa 1986, shit was cheap, pizzas were huge, arcade games were 25 cents, chicks had pubes and thongs were things you wore on your feet at the pool.

Seriously though, it is hard to make ends meet these days. Not just her but even professionals. I know plenty of lawyers who have side hustles. I feel bad for her. Then again, if she had a sweet jump shot or banging body, she'd be $$$$.
 
30+ years ago I moved into an apartment with a card table and one folding chair that I borrowed from my parents, and a 19 inch TV. I played on the floor with a pillow and blanket and watched TV.

After a couple months somebody put an old couch out by the dumpster. I waited until late at night and pulled it into my place.

lol.
Your interior decor seems luxurious to my baltimore apartment which used recycled cardboard boxes I got shit in, to my lab. They doubled as a tv table and food plate holder ;)
 
I agree. Life is a hot mess. Look at that 5 guys thread. 24 bucks for a burger meal. INSANE. When I was rocking out in my pos, dodge omni circa 1986, shit was cheap, pizzas were huge, arcade games were 25 cents, chicks had pubes and thongs were things you wore on your feet at the pool.

Seriously though, it is hard to make ends meet these days. Not just her but even professionals. I know plenty of lawyers who have side hustles. I feel bad for her. Then again, if she had a sweet jump shot or banging body, she'd be $$$$.

See, women can get away with having a banging body and waitress. Tips will be nice. A man can't do that. Mostly because women are terrible tippers. ;)
 
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