By THIS kid. I hope we are looking at him!
http://wcfcourier.com/sports/local/...ube_20c8f147-c509-5361-93b4-2e5d5f5e7d6b.html
http://wcfcourier.com/sports/local/...ube_20c8f147-c509-5361-93b4-2e5d5f5e7d6b.html
Down goes Bohannon.
- Thread starter SJeagleEye
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JoBo dropped 44 in that game.
Also, we have no room right now. Sounds like he is gonna go to UNI anyway.
Also, we have no room right now. Sounds like he is gonna go to UNI anyway.
Kid is a sophomore and you are saying we have no room?
Also, what have you heard about UNI, anything concrete? I know his dad is an assistant there. Maybe the kid is aiming higher?
Also, what have you heard about UNI, anything concrete? I know his dad is an assistant there. Maybe the kid is aiming higher?
Wieskamp has our only available spot for 2018, unless someone transfers which might happen. Just figured he would go to UNI based on his dad's connection. Maybe not, but the stars would have to align a bit.
Really? A 6'1" (in shoes) 145 HS sophomore PG against Iowa HS kids with average foot speed. Really?
Look at the defense. No pressure man to man. One shot makes a player for Iowa? This is Iowa 4A ball. Thank God I get up near Davenport and could watch IL HS basketball tournament basketball on local TV stations. IL HS basketball kids are more dynamic and athletic at the upper classes (IL 3A and 4A) than any team Iowa fields on an annual basis.
I remember as a preteen watching the IL HS state playoffs on Friday and Saturday in early March with my grandfather ( a native from Dixon, IL who moved to Iowa to marry my grandmother and farm) and watching Michael Payne, Andre Banks, Paul Lusk and many other Iowa MBB recruits and some of best IL HS talents over many years. Iowa HS produces maybe one or two major MBB talents a year but IL often produces 5 times that number and some elite talents.
SJeagleEye....... Don't judge the kid's ability by just one game. P.S. I saw Jess Settles and Klay Edwards a number of times for Winfield Mt. Union High School. Settles seemed like a man among boys but Edwards was just a big kid. But, WMU was small 1A IA school. Settles did PTL while in HS. That helped identify if he could really play.
Yes, he was correct in saying we have no room. 2018-19 Roster (assuming nobody on scholarship leaves, nobody redshirts, and verbal commitments honor those). There are 13 people holding scholarships if Baer gets awarded one, which he deserves.
Sr - Ellingson, Wagner, Williams, Fleming, Baer
Jr - Moss, Hutton, Bohannon, Cook, Kriener, Pemsl
Soph - McCaffery
Fr - Wieskamp
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You may have noticed Green scored the majority of his points against Bohannon. A soph who averages 18 per game in the MVC on a very good team-- he is a high-major talent.
What I noticed was very loose defense in a tied ball game and the ball was in the hands of their (CF's) best scorer. LM was playing with overtime on their minds instead of forcing a weaker shooter to beat them. Poor defensive identification by LM. High major talent -- send that kid out on the national circuit like Connor McC and Joe Weiskamp have done and find out how well he does before labeling him that title.
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Yeah, I'll take the guy that Poured-In 44, vs 18 points. OK, kid hit a 17 footer at end.......not sure why that's such a big thing
#goHawks
Green is a sophomore, he scored 31 vs Bohannon and prevented him from ever experiencing a state tournament. You're right it's not that big of a deal unless you're interested in knowing who the top prospects in the state are.
Interesting perspective on Illinois vs Iowa hs ball, esp in light of the fact that many of the really good future recruits in the next few years are from Iowa.
I think you're grossly underestimating Iowa hs talent, and perhaps overestimating Illinois talent. Don't feel bad; it's a common mistake.
Illinois should produce more players. ...they have about four times Iowa's population.
I hate to tell you all this but he's Wieskamps AAU teammate and has played in all the top camps with him and ravaged kids from Illinois, Cali, Indy, Wisconsin and all over his entire life. Saying he isn't any good, would be saying Wieskamp isn't any good either. You want him to go somewhere else too?
I know almost nothing about evaluating high school basketball talent and how it relates to projecting where players will end up a the college level, but this kid just scored 29 or 31 against one of the top 4A teams in Iowa, in the biggest game of the year, and if you read the Gazette write-up on the game, their veteran prep columnist Jeff Johson called him, quote: "definitely a major Division 1 recruit."
This guy has seen all the greats from the area in recent years, including all of the great Iowa City West teams, all the great Linn-Mar players (Bohannons, Marcus Paige, etc.), Cordell Pemsl, Jarrod Uthoff, Wes Washpun, Matt Gatens, etc. If he makes that kind of statment, I'm willing to take it to the bank.
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/s...s-to-cedar-falls-on-ot-buzzer-beater-20160301
Linn-Mar also has another D1 kid on their team, so it's an even more impressive list.
True, my words were a little harsh. Yes, Iowa has an improving lot of BB talent and the gap is getting smaller but if you ever got to my neck of the woods (Schaumburg, IL) and went to the the various HS BB tournaments you would see many high quality athletes that might quality for the label as HIGH MAJOR TALENT. That label is used kinda loosely. I have seen Jalen Brunson, Marcus LoVett, Charlie Moore, Nick Rakocevic, Rapolas Ivanauskas, Barret Benson, Glynn Watson, Edward Morrow, Isaiah Moss, and lot more in my seven years since moving from Iowa to the Chicago area. I enjoy good quality HS basketball a lot so I go when I can and March Madness for me is watching the Hawkeyes but also watching IL HS BB. Yes, I grew up watch Iowa HS BB as well and I played 3 years of HS Varsity (small school level) so I well versed in Iowa Boys HS BB lore.
A.J Green may become a high major talent and since I am a UNI grad, I'd be happy if UNI gets him. Nothing wrong with that. But UNI is not always in the top 25, let alone Iowa and ISUcc for that matter. Iowa's state schools cannot rely solely on Iowa HS BB talent to meet the competitive demands of Top 25 level college basketball. 6'1" 145 HS guard from Iowa is usually not a guy you rave about as a major talent unless he's has some serious game speed and shooting abilities (i.e.,Marcus Paige, Dean Oliver.etc.).
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Illinois HS BB is what March Madness is all about. When it was just 2 classes and last 4 teams, that was some of the best HS games to watch. Still good games but 2 classes put the elite on show. Keep in mind there is about the same population in Chicago as the whole state of Iowa.
I have seen AJ play 20-30 times in the last 2 years. He is long for 6'1" and is an incredible ball handler. He has a great pull-up game, excellent range, and a nice high release. He is pretty much a scoring pg but is a good passer. He really hasn't started to physically mature yet and may have far greater exposure than just UNI. He played Bohannon very tough in their first matchup at CF which Linn Mar won and IMO has a higher ceiling than JB.
As far as #20 for CF, I don't know that there is a better sophomore pure athlete in the state. State titles in the 4x1 and 4x4 last year and dunk like a man. Labeaux has a long way to go in a lot of areas if he wants to cash into his natural ability, however.
@grugreen, had Tra'Von Fagan stayed out of trouble, he would have been first or second on your list. As if a week or so ago, he was in the top 8 in 4A for scoring and rebounding despite defenses geared to stop him. 6'7", great athlete, decent range, and very good shot blocker. Plays so much like Mel Basabe.
As far as #20 for CF, I don't know that there is a better sophomore pure athlete in the state. State titles in the 4x1 and 4x4 last year and dunk like a man. Labeaux has a long way to go in a lot of areas if he wants to cash into his natural ability, however.
@grugreen, had Tra'Von Fagan stayed out of trouble, he would have been first or second on your list. As if a week or so ago, he was in the top 8 in 4A for scoring and rebounding despite defenses geared to stop him. 6'7", great athlete, decent range, and very good shot blocker. Plays so much like Mel Basabe.
I agree jelly, I was impressed with his game also. Only reason I didn't put Fagan higher was LM had no real matchup for him and when CF went to him for the most part it was an easy 2. Think he could have gone for 30 easily if CF would have went to him more. They somewhat forgot about him done the stretch. Maybe his FT shooting is a reason. Not sure. CF and LM was a great HS game to watch as both teams had quality kids. CF has a nice all around team.
I'm not sure I should touch that one if you can read between the lines regarding Tra'Von not getting the ball. He is a capable ft shooter...around 72ish% on the season IIRC. He has range out to 3 but a fairly slow release. If he grows another inch or two (I think he ends up at a juco for more exposure) he is going to make someone very, very happy.
@grugreen...my first post should have read "foul trouble" regarding Fagan, not "trouble." He's a good kid. My bad.
Not saying that Green would be a good recruit or not but the Hawks seem to lacking players who can hit key shots at end of games.
I love Green's offensive game, he plays hard, has great range, and is really good at the mid range jumper. Could be scary offensively if he adds a good 20 pounds of muscle to his frame. My concern with him (and let me say before I get ripped, he's only a sophomore so he has time to work on it), I've seen him take plays off defensively. A very average man to man defender but in my opinion, not a great team team defender also.
Please go on. What are your thoughts on these two? Have you watched them in AAU? I'm definitely curious as to your thoughts. I don't know anything about any of this and am always interested on people's opinion on here that have actually watched some of these guys play. I've only seen when people will post videos on our recruits.
Yep.
Kyle Green
Assistant Coach
Phone: 319-273-4667
Email: kyle.green@uni.edu
Twitter: KyleGreenBB
Kyle Green will serve as the Panthers’ recruiting coordinator along with his role as an assistant coach.
Green is in his third stint as an assistant coach for the UNI Panther men’s basketball team. Green served as an assistant from 2001-2003 and from 2006-2011.
In the 2011-2012 season, Green was the head coach at Wisconsin-Eau Claire - a Division III school in Eau Claire, Wis.
In between his previous two terms as a Panther assistant, Green was an assistant coach at Marquette University in the 2003-2004 season and the head coach of Lewis University, a Division II school in Romeoville, Ill., in the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 seasons.
Green started his coaching career in 1992 as player/coach of the Frederica (Denmark) Basketball Club. He was named Denmark Serie Coach of the Year after guiding Frederica to a 30-3 record and the Denmark Serie title. He then served as an assistant coach from 1993-1995 at his alma mater, Hamline (Minn.) University. He has also served as an assistant coach at Southwest Minnesota State (1995-1997), and Augustana (S.D.) College (1997-2000) and was head coach at Western State (Colo.) College during the 2000-2001 season.
A native of Minneapolis, Minn., Green received his bachelor’s degree in social studies/psychology from Hamline in 1992. He was a four-year letterwinner for Hamline, earning academic all-conference honors as both a junior and senior.
Green earned his master’s degree in athletic administration from St. Thomas University in 1999.
He and his wife, Michele, are the parents of a son, A.J. (16), and a daughter, Emerson (13).
That's fair. They try to keep him out of foul trouble because he is so electric offensively. Their defensive stopper has been hurt for some time and limited backcourt depth and Tra'Von Fagan is an excellent rim protector. As I Said earlier in the thread, having seen him 20+ times over the last 2 years, AJ is an incredible player for a sophomore. Am I saying Iowa should offer? No. But he has to be someone that we keep tabs on. As he matures physically, his defense will improve as will his ability to get to the rim.
I've seen Wieskamp play 4 times this year. He is special. Great athlete who can elevate quickly. Fast release on jumper and incredible first step. Also plays with a swagger way beyond his years. I played against his dad in high school, who was a good athlete as well. What I find impressive is that he, as a soph, was the main focus of every opponents defensive game plan and still was dominant. He has ability to take over games. I saw it in each game I was in attendance. He is a great recruit. Iowa fans will be real happy with him and he may still grow a bit more on that frame.
I can only comment on Green and Wieskamp and any other player I've coached. I know AJ Green is good enough to be a great player at Iowa, he's good enough to play at a lot of power 5 conference schools. Defensively AJ will tell you he's got to get better. Big thing is strength, however like S.Curry sometime offense is so good a lapse or two defensively doesn't hurt you, because offensively AJ is gifted!
