That includes having to watch that garbage excuse for basketball under Bennett. Run the shot clock down to one every possession then chuck up a three. First to 43 points wins. Yay! Cue the “I like winning” replies.
If Iowa State Can Get it Right, Why Can’t We?
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Iowa is just lucky to have McCaffery who consistently finishes in the top half of the conference and never been to the S16. Iowa is very fortunate and can never do better in men's BBall. Fans can only hope that FM never takes one of those offers from the top ten teams.😉
I really don't know this, Perhaps you do as you are making the claim. How many Big 12 Championships do the Clones have?
I googled it and see they have 2 regular season championships. 99 and 2000. The league has been dominated by Kansas. I know they’ve won some tournament titles also.
That style of play had to have been tough to endure all the way to three Final Four appearances, multiple other trips past the NCAA first weekend, 4 Big Ten regular season titles, etc...
Style of play be damned.. I LIKE WINNING.
Losing 102-98 doesn't really do a lot for me.
IA still has a lot to sell prospective, rising coaches IMO...
1. Play in the number one conference in terms of attendance, TV package/exposure/footprint, and wealth
2. IA is still #24 in the latest MBB attendance report of 2023
3. IA supports their coaches with long tenures (assuming solid performance and moral/ethical adherence)
4. IA has been to the NCAA tournament frequently (yea, I know, with little/no success the last 25 years once we get there)
5. A relatively friendly media and fan (this board notwithstanding) environment
6. Iowa City is a great place to live and raise a family.
There are probably others that escape me at the moment.
I'm convinced that we can get a great hire when Fran moves on within the next few years.
1. Play in the number one conference in terms of attendance, TV package/exposure/footprint, and wealth
2. IA is still #24 in the latest MBB attendance report of 2023
3. IA supports their coaches with long tenures (assuming solid performance and moral/ethical adherence)
4. IA has been to the NCAA tournament frequently (yea, I know, with little/no success the last 25 years once we get there)
5. A relatively friendly media and fan (this board notwithstanding) environment
6. Iowa City is a great place to live and raise a family.
There are probably others that escape me at the moment.
I'm convinced that we can get a great hire when Fran moves on within the next few years.
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Wow Virgina won 4 B1G regular season titles? First I’ve heard of it.That style of play had to have been tough to endure all the way to three Final Four appearances, multiple other trips past the NCAA first weekend, 4 Big Ten regular season titles, etc...
Style of play be damned.. I LIKE WINNING.
Losing 102-98 doesn't really do a lot for me.
I’m sure you’d coach high schoolers to hold the ball the entire quarter. “Let’s win with the final score of 8-4, that’s how basketball is supposed to be played! I love winning playing fake basketball!”
Who said anything about UVA? This was in reference to Wisconsin who also played the "fake" basketball that you speak of. Thought you meant Dick Bennett at Wisconsin.
So you'd rather lose playing uptempo than to go to the Final Four or win it all with a half court style?
Interesting.
Jesus Christ. Read the posts before going on your own tangent. I like watching real basketball, not that bull shit you prefer. Stick to high schoolers bball for your 18-12 final scores.
The games were at 7:00 Tuesdays and 1:00 Saturdays. Rarely on TV till HCA.
Talk about reading comprehension issues... I never said I "prefer" half court. I said I prefer winning. Figure it out, Sherlock.
It’s clear you never read the post that I originally replied to. Wisconsin actually put up 100 points in a game this season, so therefore you automatically can’t like them. That’s about 87 more points than you’d prefer them to score.
Talk about reading comprehension issues... I never said I "prefer" half court. I said I prefer winning. Figure it out, Sherlock.
You are a perfect stereotype & exactly who I was referring to in my OP. Carry on.
So, that would be someone who cares less about style points than about than getting the win? Yeah, you got me there.
But, you do you.
I think it's two regular-season titles. Back-to-back when Tinsley was there, 99-00 abd 00-01. Five tourney titles sounds about right.
Keady sucked in the NCAA Tourney too. So did Painter until last year. Gard sucks period.
Look, there’s multiple ways to win but to shit on Virginia, especially that natty team is outrageous. They were 35-3. Their pace of play was last in all of college bball, but their efficiency was 2nd and their defensive efficiency was 5th. Honestly it’s pretty similar to how Drake plays this year. When it’s working it’s pretty fun to watch but when it’s not it can certainly be a drag to actually watch. However the name of the game is winning. You look at Drake with 4 D2 guys starting and they win the rebound battle by 8-10 boards every game despite being outsized every game. Fran has a style of play that when it’s on is pretty fun to watch but in the end it’s not going to beat the better teams when it matters.
Iowa definitely has some good things going for them as you listed above, but let’s look at the flip side too. I don’t think a home run hire is impossible, but I’m not convinced it would happen given:
1) Iowa’s NIL. All very unknown, but almost certain its bottom third if B1G for men’s basketball.
2) coaches salary. Definitely bottom third of the B1G.
3) Operating expenses is bottom third of the B1G.
4) Recruiting base, bottom of the B1G.
5) Facilities, bottom of the B1G, at best bottom third of the B1G.
6) Ticket sales is middle of the pack in the B1G and not trending in a good direction.
Iowa needs to spend more money when it comes to men’s basketball if they want to compete for conference championships. Men’s basketball is one of two revenue sports for the university (traditionally), yet they invest very little towards its success.
LOL, Fran will never get an offer from a top 10 school. Everyone knows what he is, a .500 level coach. Iowa fans deserve better. You can find the money to buy him out. Do it. I remember the days of Lute. Iowa can do so much better. You have to be willing to take the risk, and apparently there are a bunch of hawk fans that don't like to take risk. I have friends that follow Iowa MBB, and they have little faith in this coach, but they seem so dejected to have to keep him for several more years.
This isn’t true, Iowa State women’s basketball attendance has been much higher than ours over the last decade.
You obviously don't remember the days of the four corners "offense." Hell, Lute used to have the Hawks hold the ball for entire halves.
You are correct, there are many ways to win. Would rather look for coaches who play like Alabama (Oats), Kentucky (Pope), Gonzaga and North Carolina. We've done the poor mans Bennet (that's Tony for Tampa) with Lickliter. There's plenty of other basketball to watch throughout the winter instead of having to sit through that garbage that Bennett did. But then again, people are happy to win like some high school coaches where they hold the ball all quarter. That's not basketball. But hey, we won right! Yeah, you won at being a bitch and not playing real ball.
I don’t recall lutes team holding the ball for an entire half. Michigan state did it to Iowa once.
Well there’s a shot clock so nobody actually holds the ball. And you know that.
