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Drew Cook's stock is rising; he's at 6'5", 250 lbs

My guess is if Fant stays healthy he will be gone after this year. That will open the door for Hok and Cook, Beyer going forward.
Nate Wieting has worked his way into the two-deep discussion as well. He was on the field quite a bit as a redshirt sophomore last year although up to this point, it appears that he has been used primarily as a blocker.
 
He'll be a junior, correct? He should hope Fant balls out and goes pro. That'll clear a spot up- more opportunities.
If Fant gets anywhere near his 11 TD's from last year, and is consistent catching the ball and improves his blocking, I could definetly see him going in the draft next year. Great to still have Hock, Beyer, Cook, Wieting, and guys like Lee in the pipeline.
 
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If Fant gets anywhere near his 11 TD's from last year, and is consistent catching the ball and improves his blocking, I could definetly see him going in the draft next year. Great to still have Hock, Beyer, Cook, Wieting, and guys like Lee in the pipeline.
Totally agree with your point...but,...Fant might just find himself as a high 2nd Rounder who could become a 1st Rounder with successful Senior season, especially if Stanley returns for his Senior season. Nate and Noah are definitely in sync'.
 
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Totally agree with your point...but,...Fant might just find himself as a high 2nd Rounder who could become a 1st Rounder with successful Senior season, especially if Stanley returns for his Senior season. Nate and Noah are definitely in sync'.
Oh, I certainly would love to see Noah stay for his senior year, I just think he burst on the national radar last year by leading the nation in TD's by a TE. I think he'll be watched closely this year, and a repeat of last year, and some polish on the rough edges of his game will garner him a lot of attention at this time next year.
 
Fant should totally stay to help Iowa win a national championship.....
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Totally agree with your point...but,...Fant might just find himself as a high 2nd Rounder who could become a 1st Rounder with successful Senior season, especially if Stanley returns for his Senior season. Nate and Noah are definitely in sync'.
It will be interesting as opposing teams will definitely be focusing on him. I don't want to sound negative, but it's possible his stats will be less impressive due to being double teamed.

I wonder if BF has some 'quirky' plays to free Fant up.
 
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It will be interesting as opposing teams will definitely be focusing on him. I don't want to sound negative, but it possible his stats will be less impressive due to being double teamed.

I wonder if BF has some 'quirky' plays to free Fant up.
That's part of the reason why it's so important for TEs to develop into excellent blockers too. It's not uncommon for TE pass plays to result from them leaking out after releasing from a block ... it's a little harder for Ds to recognize those sorts of plays because the early blocking serves as a terrific decoy. Fant will need to learn how to do that ... and really "sell it." The back-side TE screen also tends to work that way too ... and the guy often gets left uncovered.

Brian now moves his TEs all over the place ... lining them up as traditional TEs, lining them up like H-backs, and even splitting them out wide (when it's beneficial). Where the TE lines up can impact whose assignment it is to cover him. Brian will likely try to find the best mismatches he can for Fant - and that can open up opportunities too.

If the D brackets him the whole time - then they're spending 2 guys to effectively neutralize him for the whole game. If they do that ... it opens up other guys. If another guy gets a "hot hand" in a game ... then the D might rethink their match-ups. If they don't bracket Fant ... he'll likely get targets then.
 
It will be interesting as opposing teams will definitely be focusing on him. I don't want to sound negative, but it possible his stats will be less impressive due to being double teamed.

I wonder if BF has some 'quirky' plays to free Fant up.

I too think Noah is likely to leave early. I don't know about quirky plays but hopefully BF can at least use it to expose someone else in space. Lee looks like a stud, more of a traditional TE, but sounds like a heck of an athlete. Need to get Hickman. I think Hickman is Noah 2.0.
 
If Fant gets anywhere near his 11 TD's from last year, and is consistent catching the ball and improves his blocking, I could definetly see him going in the draft next year. Great to still have Hock, Beyer, Cook, Wieting, and guys like Lee in the pipeline.
I honestly think he's a first round draft pick next year.
 
I honestly think he's a first round draft pick next year.
The NFL is a fickle beast. Both Gronk and Ertz were 2nd round picks. If you look at this year, the top graded TEs are PSU's Gesicki and South Carolina's Hurst (irony being that neither won the Mackey Award) - and, at highest, they're being picked low in the first round. Most prognosticators have them projected to the 2nd round.

Regardless, this still implies that even if Fant has an all-world season, he'll still most likely get projected as a low 1st round, high 2nd round pick. He gets those draft grades ... he should probably go because where he actually ends up getting picked will largely deal with the relationships he develops with teams (and whether a team really wants an elite TE).
 
I was hoping Drew would make the move to TE as soon as he arrived on campus. Oh well, better late than never. Drew has the talent to excel at the TE position.
 
If he puts up a performance anywhere near what he did this past season, he will get that late 1st to 2nd round grade, and would be well-advised to make the jump. Of course I want him back regardless, but that is the beast these days.
 
Drew Cook will never see the field at the TE position. My opinion and for his sake I hope I am really wrong...would be good for the young man. At Iowa TE position is a different kind of athlete...unfortunately for Cook, I do not think he is that kind
 
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Drew Cook will never see the field at the TE position. My opinion and for his sake I hope I am really wrong...would be good for the young man. At Iowa TE position is a different kind of athlete...unfortunately for Cook, I do not think he is that kind
As a high school quarterback, you realize that Drew was big, surprisingly fleet of foot, and quite athletic? You'd assert that he couldn't be of comparable athleticism to Brandon Myers or Henry Krieger-Coble?

It's true that Drew Cook may not be like a George Kittle or a Noah Fant .... however, more than one type of athlete has had success at Iowa's TE spot.
 
Drew Cook will never see the field at the TE position. My opinion and for his sake I hope I am really wrong...would be good for the young man. At Iowa TE position is a different kind of athlete...unfortunately for Cook, I do not think he is that kind
Fortunately, you're wrong. Cook is a sensational athlete. This might end up being the most talented group of TEs we've ever had. I understand that's a radical statement about Iowa. They're that good.
 
Fortunately, you're wrong. Cook is a sensational athlete. This might end up being the most talented group of TEs we've ever had. I understand that's a radical statement about Iowa. They're that good.
I never said he wasn't a great athlete...I said that he wasn't in the others category. Another poster compared him athletically in HS to Brandon Myers....that is just irresponsible.
 
I never said he wasn't a great athlete...I said that he wasn't in the others category. Another poster compared him athletically in HS to Brandon Myers....that is just irresponsible.

To say he will never seee the field at TE could also be considered irresponsible statement.
 
I never said he wasn't a great athlete...I said that he wasn't in the others category. Another poster compared him athletically in HS to Brandon Myers....that is just irresponsible.
I meant you're wrong about him never seeing the field.
 
I never said he wasn't a great athlete...I said that he wasn't in the others category. Another poster compared him athletically in HS to Brandon Myers....that is just irresponsible.
How is that irresponsible? I know that Brandon was a tremendous basketball player - and that is part of why Iowa offered him. I know that Myers was a great athlete ... however, he was never quite on the same level as Fant because Fant has pretty remarkable speed for his size.

As for Drew Cook - he was pretty darn solid in basketball too .... in each of his last two years, he was averaging over 20 points per game. He was successful in pretty much every sport he threw his hat in. Obviously, he was most prolific in football ... and his success wasn't just attributable to him passing the ball either. He gained a ton of yards on the ground for Regina too. Thus, for a big guy, he can move really well too.

Consequently, for his dual prowess in both football and basketball ... I likened him to Myers. I don't see how that comparison is all that irresponsible.
 
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How is that irresponsible? I know that Brandon was a tremendous basketball player - and that is part of why Iowa offered him. I know that Myers was a great athlete ... however, he was never quite on the same level as Fant because Fant has pretty remarkable speed for his size.

As for Drew Cook - he was pretty darn solid in basketball too .... in each of his last two years, he was averaging over 20 points per game. He was successful in pretty much every sport he threw his hat in. Obviously, he was most prolific in football ... and his success wasn't just attributable to him passing the ball either. He gained a ton of yards on the ground for Regina too. Thus, for a big guy, he can move really well too.

Consequently, for his dual prowess in both football and basketball ... I likened him to Myers. I don't see how that comparison is all that irresponsible.
Again he obviously is a great athlete. He will be a RS-Soph this year and is taking a position change going into this year. Physicality wise I just do not believe he has the tools at that position. Iowa has 9 TE's right now and I would guess he is 8th or 9th in the depth chart. He has two fellow RS-Soph's that have seen game action at that position and that is behind Hockinson and Fant. Beyer from Kennedy is going to be in the mix and I am not even sure they list him as a TE yet.

To clarify...absolutely nothing against the young man at all. He was a very good small school Iowa HS QB and might be caught in the TE conundrum.
 
Again he obviously is a great athlete. He will be a RS-Soph this year and is taking a position change going into this year. Physicality wise I just do not believe he has the tools at that position. Iowa has 9 TE's right now and I would guess he is 8th or 9th in the depth chart. He has two fellow RS-Soph's that have seen game action at that position and that is behind Hockinson and Fant. Beyer from Kennedy is going to be in the mix and I am not even sure they list him as a TE yet.

To clarify...absolutely nothing against the young man at all. He was a very good small school Iowa HS QB and might be caught in the TE conundrum.
From what I hear, he is already significantly higher than that in the coaches eyes. No big deal, but I think you're way off in your evaluation. The coaches are high on him and I would be surprised if he doesn't get some time this year.
 
How is that irresponsible? I know that Brandon was a tremendous basketball player - and that is part of why Iowa offered him. I know that Myers was a great athlete ... however, he was never quite on the same level as Fant because Fant has pretty remarkable speed for his size.

As for Drew Cook - he was pretty darn solid in basketball too .... in each of his last two years, he was averaging over 20 points per game. He was successful in pretty much every sport he threw his hat in. Obviously, he was most prolific in football ... and his success wasn't just attributable to him passing the ball either. He gained a ton of yards on the ground for Regina too. Thus, for a big guy, he can move really well too.

Consequently, for his dual prowess in both football and basketball ... I likened him to Myers. I don't see how that comparison is all that irresponsible.
Again he obviously is a great athlete. He will be a RS-Soph this year and is taking a position change going into this year. Physicality wise I just do not believe he has the tools at that position. Iowa has 9 TE's right now and I would guess he is 8th or 9th in the depth chart. He has two fellow RS-Soph's that have seen game action at that position and that is behind Hockinson and Fant. Beyer from Kennedy is going to be in the mix and I am not even sure they list him as a TE yet.

To clarify...absolutely nothing against the young man at all. He was a very good small school Iowa HS QB and might be caught in the TE conundrum.

Your info is one year late. Cook is a RS junior and made change to TE last year. Some posters have him as 4th or 5th TE. Not 7 or 8. Not even sure who the other TEs are in that group.

I would say it is Fant,Hockenson and Beyer with Cook and Weiting in next two slots
 
It will be interesting as opposing teams will definitely be focusing on him. I don't want to sound negative, but it's possible his stats will be less impressive due to being double teamed.

I wonder if BF has some 'quirky' plays to free Fant up.
If opposing teams concentrate on Fant, Hock will make them pay. (Assuming both are in the game at the same time).
 
Again he obviously is a great athlete. He will be a RS-Soph this year and is taking a position change going into this year. Physicality wise I just do not believe he has the tools at that position. Iowa has 9 TE's right now and I would guess he is 8th or 9th in the depth chart. He has two fellow RS-Soph's that have seen game action at that position and that is behind Hockinson and Fant. Beyer from Kennedy is going to be in the mix and I am not even sure they list him as a TE yet.

To clarify...absolutely nothing against the young man at all. He was a very good small school Iowa HS QB and might be caught in the TE conundrum.
Come next fall, Drew Cook will be a RS-Junior. About halfway through the spring camp of 2017, Cook moved from QB to TE. He's subsequently benefitted from a summer/fall-camp, bowl-prep, and now another spring camp. During past fall-camp ... Ferentz sounded very positive about Cook and his development at TE. Given where he's current at it terms of height and weight ... he's already sitting at a pretty good spot in terms of size.

In terms of handling the physicalness of Iowa's TE play ... you need look no further than the fact that Iowa's top TEs are regularly guys who were glorified WRs at their high schools. In other words ... many of our top guys had very little prior experience with Iowa's physical brand of blocking ... but they all demonstrated a fearlessness and willingness to throw themselves into the melee that led the Hawks to recruit them. Neither Fant nor Hock did much blocking in high school ... and yet they've been coming along pretty well.

In terms of depth-chart ... Fant and Hock are clearly at the top. Coming out of bowl-prep, it sounded like Beyer was a significant riser. Also, given all of Wieting's prior game experience ... he's most likely somewhere in the top 4. However, everything I've heard about Cook puts him pretty squarely at #5 ... and potentially pushing for #4. (if you're counting TEs ... we have Fant, Hock, Wieting, Beyer, Cook, Vejvoda, Coons, and a number of lesser-known walk-on TEs)

Given that Iowa uses 2 TE sets all the time ... and will likely be toying with 3 TE sets with increasing frequency in '18 .... Iowa will assuredly rotate AT LEAST 4 guys at TE ... perhaps more (depending on what they show in practice). Furthermore, since Iowa played the TE at the H-back spot a lot ... it's well within the realm of possibility that Brian compensates for Drake Kulick's graduation by playing TEs with increasing frequency at the H-back spot.

If the '17 season was indicative of anything, Fant, Hockenson, Pekar, Wieting, Wisnieski, and Beyer all saw positional reps at TE last season. Thus, I would be genuinely surprised if Drew Cook didn't see some TE reps in '18 (even if it's mostly just in clean-up duty).

Consequently, if many of us are correct about our prognosis concerning Fant ... Cook will then be ready to step up among our top 4 TEs ... and he'll be in a position to be an important contributor for us in '19.
 
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Really pulling for him to have at least one impact season for us. Just don’t wanna see him get lost in the mix cuz he gave QB a shot. Seems like a good athlete and kid in general.
 
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Really pulling for him to have at least one impact season for us. Just don’t wanna see him get lost in the mix cuz he gave QB a shot. Seems like a good athlete and kid in general.
Entering 2015 ... Jake Duzey was supposed to be our star TE. George Kittle had even proven to be a pretty dynamic guy at TE by that point. Silently, for years, Henry Krieger-Coble had been the guy who had made circus catches in practice and had been our stalwart in-line TE.

What happened? Duzey got injured ... Henry got elevated to our "move" TE spot (at least, that is what it was in Greg's O) ... and our TE play ended up being a critical ingredient in our O's ability to absolutely kill the clock (particularly against lesser Ds).

Given that Brian is now at the helm of the O ... I'm pretty confident that he'll be willing to wield our TE resources early and often.
 
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Your info is one year late. Cook is a RS junior and made change to TE last year. Some posters have him as 4th or 5th TE. Not 7 or 8. Not even sure who the other TEs are in that group.

I would say it is Fant,Hockenson and Beyer with Cook and Weiting in next two slots

Don't sleep on Wieting. He's developing as a receiver and already the best blocker of the group. He will play.
 
Alot of competition right now at TE Wieting is a Junior next season, Beyer will be in the mix as a sophomore and is up to 240 now. He should be a good recieving tight end. Cook might have more of a chance to play in 2019. Never know. Hawks need to keep recruiting a broad range of guys at the position because it puts a ton of pressure on the defense.
 
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My guess is if Fant stays healthy he will be gone after this year. That will open the door for Hok and Cook, Beyer going forward.
The TE pipeline is very good right now. Just need to keep adding 1 - 2 good ones a year.
 
The TE pipeline is very good right now. Just need to keep adding 1 - 2 good ones a year.
The last scholarship TE we added was Coons, from the '17 class. We didn't add any TEs in the '18 class. However, we appear poised to add 2 TE commits in the '19 class.
 
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