Drew Ott?
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I wonder if it is related to signing day. Maybe the news is good but early playing time has been an inducement for a recruit. Anything is possible I suppose.
Yep-Ferentz has been quoted saying they make those decisions a few weeks after the bowl games most of the time.
Heard they should have a decision toward the end of 2016. Probably waiting til after election day.
This is what I hate about this world! 
Here we have a young man dangling because some people sitting in an office can't decide what to do. Do they need more information? Maybe they are having a hard time scheduling a meeting? Maybe they can't decide whether to review the list of applicants in alphabetic order by name or by school?
If Ott somehow knows the answer but can't tell anyone, fine. He's the only one I care about.
But if he is just left to twist in the wind then .....!!! Make a friggin' decision!
Here we have a young man dangling because some people sitting in an office can't decide what to do. Do they need more information? Maybe they are having a hard time scheduling a meeting? Maybe they can't decide whether to review the list of applicants in alphabetic order by name or by school?
If Ott somehow knows the answer but can't tell anyone, fine. He's the only one I care about.
But if he is just left to twist in the wind then .....
!!! Make a friggin' decision!
It does seem to be a bit late but there's probably a process and a good reason.
We originally heard before Christmas, but most likely before the Rose Bowl. We were then told about the same time 2nd semester begins. Here we are, 2/2 and no decision announced yet.
I am wondering if he has been declined for a 5th year and is going through the appeals process before its officially announced?
I am wondering if he has been declined for a 5th year and is going through the appeals process before its officially announced?
In one of the original articles about him petitioning for an extra year stated it would be February 22-23 meeting. I believe it was the Cedar Rapids Gazette and I've linked in at least one possibly two threads about Ott and have mentioned numerous times. A lot of people seem to have the wrong info.
YES! We were told from the beginning that it would be February, yet we have at least two threads per week asking.
Corey Smith from OSU got a sixth year! How is that even possible? I don't know his whole story, but he didn't break his leg till the Indiana game this year. Seems like Ott should get a fifth year if Smith gets a sixth year.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2016/02/ohio_state_wr_corey_smith_gran.html
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2016/02/ohio_state_wr_corey_smith_gran.html
Smith played in less than 40% of their games though, while Ott didn't. Smith's situation also includes having to transfer after his original Juco discontinued football after his first year of college, so their situations aren't really that comparable.
http://www.press-citizen.com/story/...ides-hope-drew-ott-medical-redshirt/79783378/
The possibility of Drew Ott being granted a medical hardship and a fifth season of eligibility still exists. And Iowa football coach Kirk Ferentz provided a glimmer of hope Wednesday that the odds were better than a long shot.
“It's still in the works, and I've learned a couple of things that make me a little bit more optimistic,” Ferentz said during his National Signing Day news conference. “But still, it's hard to say where it's going to go.”
To quote Jim Carrey’s character in (the original) Dumb and Dumber: So you’re telling me there’s a chance?
“I'm a little optimistic right now,” Ferentz reiterated.
The possibility of Drew Ott being granted a medical hardship and a fifth season of eligibility still exists. And Iowa football coach Kirk Ferentz provided a glimmer of hope Wednesday that the odds were better than a long shot.
“It's still in the works, and I've learned a couple of things that make me a little bit more optimistic,” Ferentz said during his National Signing Day news conference. “But still, it's hard to say where it's going to go.”
To quote Jim Carrey’s character in (the original) Dumb and Dumber: So you’re telling me there’s a chance?
“I'm a little optimistic right now,” Ferentz reiterated.
Yesterday's signees brought the roster to a full 85 scholarships (according to Listicow and Morehouse.) Someone will have to lose their scholarship in order to make room.
It's a long offseason. I doubt Iowa makes it all the way to next fall without a kid or two leaving for various reasons.
Two players who saw significant playing time last season for Pitt and OSU just got awarded a 6th year.
Ellis would be crazy to leave, he's getting a free degree from the University of Iowa, doubt he'll get another free ride if he leaves.
Ott played in the first 6 games, 50% of the regular season, not sure how he'd even be eligible ? Guess we'll find out soon enough. Doesn't hurt to try.
Guidelines for Medical Hardship Waiver Requests
For a student-athlete to receive a Medical Hardship Waiver per Bylaw 14.2.4, the following four conditions must be met:
- The student-athlete may not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent of the team's completed contests/dates of competition.
- The injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the season.
- The injury or illness does not have to occur during practice/competition, but it must be incapacitating.
- Appropriate medical documentation must exist and be provided.
All percentages are calculated according to contests or dates of competition, depending on how your sport's competitive opportunities are counted. Only contests or dates of competition occurring during the championship (traditional) season are included in the calculations. Conference championships/tournaments are counted as one contest or date of competition, regardless of the actual contest/dates used.
If the percentage calculation for the 20-percent rule results in a decimal -- any decimal -- the whole number preceding it is always rounded up. For example, if the softball team competes in 56 games, 20 percent of 56 is 11.2. Due to the "rounding-up," a softball team member who competed in 12 games does qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
To meet the first-half-of-the-season requirement, all competition must cease prior to the start of the contest or date of competition that begins the second half of the season. For example, a soccer player competing in the 10th game of a 19-game season does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver. Also, a student-athlete who is injured in the first half of the season, then attempts to play in the second half and aggravates the original injury, does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
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Be prepared to move on without Sir Ott..
We will all know very SOON. Just assume it's a big NO. ..then we won't be sad. I really feel Sir O. should be allowed a fifth year, but I AM biased !
We will all know very SOON. Just assume it's a big NO. ..then we won't be sad. I really feel Sir O. should be allowed a fifth year, but I AM biased !
In situations like these I feel the league should go out of their way to lean towards letting the kid return.
I'm not just saying that because it's a Hawkeye involved. I just feel if a kid actually wants to return to school, and the school wants him/her to return, then every effort should be made to allow it. Let's face it, in this day and age 90% of kids want to leave early. I think it's a good thing to be generous with handing out exemptions on allowing a fifth/sixth year. In the end, it's the school who has to make room (schollie) for him/her.
Maybe the rule needs to be updated...unless the kid's injury happens past the halfway point of their senior season of their respective sport (regardless of how much of the previous games they've played in) allow them to return as long as their grades have been kept in order?
In this case Drew's season-ending injury would have had to occur in game 7 (i.e. Northwestern) or later to rule him out.
They could even make it more in favor of the kid by making it "past the 2/3 of the season point" ...in this case game 9 or later. Again, my stance is in favor of allowing kids to return as long as their grades are in order and the school is on board with it.
I'm not just saying that because it's a Hawkeye involved. I just feel if a kid actually wants to return to school, and the school wants him/her to return, then every effort should be made to allow it. Let's face it, in this day and age 90% of kids want to leave early. I think it's a good thing to be generous with handing out exemptions on allowing a fifth/sixth year. In the end, it's the school who has to make room (schollie) for him/her.
Maybe the rule needs to be updated...unless the kid's injury happens past the halfway point of their senior season of their respective sport (regardless of how much of the previous games they've played in) allow them to return as long as their grades have been kept in order?
In this case Drew's season-ending injury would have had to occur in game 7 (i.e. Northwestern) or later to rule him out.
They could even make it more in favor of the kid by making it "past the 2/3 of the season point" ...in this case game 9 or later. Again, my stance is in favor of allowing kids to return as long as their grades are in order and the school is on board with it.
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If only they actually went 100% by the books. They don't, it's case by case. If KF feels optimistic then there's a chance, but I'm sure the coaching staff is moving on like he won't play a fifth year. If he does great it's a bonus.
A buddy of mine sent me a screen shot of ones of his friends FB post that said "According to a few sources Ott will get a 6th year of eligibility." So that solves the mystery, we get Drew for 2 more years!
Drew Ott's high school coach, Jeff Ashby, checked in with Drew for us this morning since that Facebook rumor is going around.
Drew told him he's heard nothing new from the NCAA about his situation.
Drew told him he's heard nothing new from the NCAA about his situation.
This is the biggest reason I now expect to see Ott back next year. The NCAA appears to be relaxing their rules a bit, as I believe both players Pittsburgh and OSU played in well over 20% of their games. The rulings from just a few years ago were not as favorable. Also, most importantly in Ott's case, in my opinion, is that he is appealing for a 5th season, while the two aforementioned players from Pitt and OSU appealed for 6th seasons.
Since the NCAA has already shown that it is willing to relax the rigidity of the rules, I am feeling much better about Ott's case. If the goal is to achieve an equitable result, I don't see how anyone would not grant him an extra year. He barely played as a freshman (I believe he sat out the first 8 games), and while he did participate in 6 games as a senior, he essentially missed about half of what would have been his ordinary participation in those games due to injury. Moreover, he is still significantly injured and will not be able to participate in the NFL combine and his injury could prevent him from getting drafted. Denying Ott an extra year of eligibility means potentially denying him millions of dollars as he could project as a 1st or 2nd round draft pick if fully healthy. Compare this to the cost of allowing a young man a 5th year of education and I don't see how any rational person would reject his case.
This also brings up a proposed rule change that's gaining momentum which would allow every student athlete 5 years of eligibility. Given the demands of participation in their sport, it seems reasonable that student athletes should be provided 5 years to complete their education, especially when you consider that the average student (whether or not an athlete) now takes closer to 6 years to graduate.
Good old fashioned journalism...go to a reputable source and get information from the horse's mouth. Nice work. That being said, isn't it counterproductive to running a website with a forum. If we have the truth, what the hell are we going to speculate about? Damn, I take back the nice work comment.
How would our coaching staff every improve as coaches or as recruiters if not for the forum???
Take this for what it's worth, but I've heard he's very likely to get it and he's planning accordingly.
Sorry, I'm just being optimistic. I actually have no idea. Ferentz seems like he's optimistic though also.
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