Duke's Jay Williams had hand in funneling over $250,000 to Kevin Love's AAU Coach

[Franisdaman]

Please read this and then answer this: why would he admit this???

From CBSsports.com:

Coaches funneling money to players and agents finagling for positioning to land top recruits are nothing new to the sport.

The idea that agencies have been meddling with college basketball recruiting was backed up with an interesting anecdote by ESPN analyst Jay Williams, a former Duke player who had a hand in funneling money to Kevin Love's AAU coach when Love was in high school and during a stint in which Williams worked for a sports agency. He told the story unfiltered on live television this week.

"There were a lot of dealings that were being made that people didn't know about. There was a lot of money being exchanged. I know for a fact — there was a reported story from Yahoo! Sports back in 2009 — I know that we gave an AAU coach for a guy named Kevin Love who plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers. We gave him over $250,000. Now, at the time, we were also giving other players money because you were allowed to give players money through their AAU programs."

Williams' anecdote would seem to confirm a 2009 Yahoo! Sports report regarding Love's AAU team and a $250,00 payment made to Love's coach, Pat Barrett, in which the agency made the massive donation with hopes that Barrett could deliver Love -- first to a dinner, then later as a client.

Despite attending a dinner with Barrett and the agency, Love signed with a different agency down the road in part because of distrust in Williams. Williams later left the industry to become a central figure in ESPN's basketball coverage, and Love has gone on to make four NBA All-Star teams since entering the league in 2008. It seems both parties came out rosy in the end, but there was no lack of controversy along the way -- further proof that college basketball has operated in gray areas for many years without consequence.

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...ports-agency-paid-kevin-loves-aau-coach-250k/

 

[terrehawk]

And, in unsurprising news, ESPN knows all about this and still employs the guy.

What a fiasco

 

[Myvue]

I'm betting Jay Williams was also on the receiving end of some of that cash when he was in high school. Trying to convince everyone now I guess that since everybody does it it's o.k.

If he has been in that kind of business he should know but I think he's misinformed about it's ok as long is the money is given on an AAU circuit. I beg to differ with him as the reason a player who has received any kind of compensation for playing is with pay comes being a pro thus not eligible to play college ball anymore. Says Love went to a different agency doesn't say if he took the money though.

 

[DanL53]

One way to look at it:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...l-sliding-in-harris-poll-of-sport-popularity/

I know, it's an old article from 2014. But think about it, as much money as College Basketball makes now, what could have been if they didn't ef it up? Sooner or later, somebody is going to figure this out:

THERE IS MORE MONEY IS A NON-CHEATING SPORT THAN THERE IS IN THE CRUD THEY FEED US THESE DAYS!!!!!!

On percent, two percent less in fan interest....and we'll see programs shutting down. This whole thing is on a razor's edge.

 

[hawk-i bob]

I have sort of held off commenting on this FBI indictment of 4 assistant coaches and the others caught red handed not only recruiting cheating but also committing serious felony crimes.

This is the best thing that has happened to college basketball in a long time thanks to the FBI and those that feed them inside info. At the very least..there should be some college coaches looking over their shoulder. Cheaters are going to cheat...I hope everyone of them gets caught.

The other thing..ESPN & the networks should take some responsibility...I;m sure they won't. They have helped make it possibly for the Pitino's of college coaching to think they can operate without consequences. If Pearl ends up on the unemployment list I'm sure ESPN will find him work.

Last...I've seen post after post when McCaffery first got hired and as the years have gone by questioning his recruiting ability (you know close the deal)...granted not as much over the last couple of years. Remember Charlie Moore? YA some posters do...you thought Fran lost another one..didnt you.

In a nutshell. Does anyone have any concerns about our coach and his ability to recruit good players without committing a felony?

 

[icwesthawk]

I don't know how you can't be a little concerned about every program out there. There has been a lot of money moving around with a lot of incentive to cheat, a lot of pressure on programs to win and up until now, very little downside to it. It may all change now that the Feds are on it, but it would not surprise me a bit to see many if not all schools are dirty to some degree.

 

[DanL53]

I don't know how you can't be a little concerned about every program out there. There has been a lot of money moving around with a lot of incentive to cheat, a lot of pressure on programs to win and up until now, very little downside to it. It may all change now that the Feds are on it, but it would not surprise me a bit to see many if not all schools are dirty to some degree.

The same FBI guy that said to the crooks, "We've got your playbook", also said in the same press conference that there are thousands of players, coaches, etc., doing things the right way. I hate to repeat myself but as I posted the day after this news broke...I'll bet the FBI has tapes PROVING some coaches and programs don't cheat.

I don't have one drop of concern for Iowa.

That doesn't mean that outside the program there isn't a booster who hands a few bucks to a player, "Just between them". I've seen it...long ago...nothing can be done about that. And maybe for all the hard work the guys put in, they can't hold a part time job, maybe money to buy a pizza isn't such a big deal. And I repeat...I'm talking a long time ago...nothing to worry about.

But as far as this out and out criminal cheating? No, don't worry about Iowa.

 

[mtdew_fever]

and.....people think that by allowing college players to be paid would solve all of this. Not a chance.

 

[And1Hawk]

Jay Williams starred at Duke. Wonder where he learned how to cheat?

 

[IowaNiceHawk]

And, in unsurprising news, ESPN knows all about this and still employs the guy.

What a fiasco

LOL at Espin.............that thing is completely falling apart.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

I bought Roy Marble a few drinks once. Am I next?

 

[ping72]

The OP asked why he would admit that. I ask why would he hide it? It was perfectly legal back then.

 

[IowaNiceHawk]

I accepted a Beer from Bobby Hansen once.
He may have gotten that money from Bruce Pearl, so
I might be involved and never knew.

GO HAWKS

 

[DanL53]

I saw Dan Gable buy McDonald's for his NCAA Champions one Spring. He was MAD at the amount of food they ate. Not the money...the intake. He must have lost a bet or made a promise or something. Funny, funny moment. Him standing on the little raised platform in the old Riverside Drive MD's, hands folded across his chest...grimacing. Wrestlers ordering like two Big Macs, Large Fries, Pie, Shake, and another Big Mac......

You think Fran gets a red face!?!?

 

[Franisdaman]

I saw Dan Gable buy McDonald's for his NCAA Champions one Spring. He was MAD at the amount of food they ate. Not the money...the intake. He must have lost a bet or made a promise or something. Funny, funny moment. Him standing on the little raised platform in the old Riverside Drive MD's, hands folded across his chest...grimacing. Wrestlers ordering like two Big Macs, Large Fries, Pie, Shake, and another Big Mac......

You think Fran gets a red face!?!?

oh, the good old days when i could eat a big mac, large fries and strawberry shake and not get fat LOL

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

He was pissed because there was no change left to put in his pocket from each wrestlers per diem.

 

[Lone Clone]

Please read this and then answer this: why would he admit this???

From CBSsports.com:

Coaches funneling money to players and agents finagling for positioning to land top recruits are nothing new to the sport.

The idea that agencies have been meddling with college basketball recruiting was backed up with an interesting anecdote by ESPN analyst Jay Williams, a former Duke player who had a hand in funneling money to Kevin Love's AAU coach when Love was in high school and during a stint in which Williams worked for a sports agency. He told the story unfiltered on live television this week.

"There were a lot of dealings that were being made that people didn't know about. There was a lot of money being exchanged. I know for a fact — there was a reported story from Yahoo! Sports back in 2009 — I know that we gave an AAU coach for a guy named Kevin Love who plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers. We gave him over $250,000. Now, at the time, we were also giving other players money because you were allowed to give players money through their AAU programs."

Williams' anecdote would seem to confirm a 2009 Yahoo! Sports report regarding Love's AAU team and a $250,00 payment made to Love's coach, Pat Barrett, in which the agency made the massive donation with hopes that Barrett could deliver Love -- first to a dinner, then later as a client.

Despite attending a dinner with Barrett and the agency, Love signed with a different agency down the road in part because of distrust in Williams. Williams later left the industry to become a central figure in ESPN's basketball coverage, and Love has gone on to make four NBA All-Star teams since entering the league in 2008. It seems both parties came out rosy in the end, but there was no lack of controversy along the way -- further proof that college basketball has operated in gray areas for many years without consequence.

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...ports-agency-paid-kevin-loves-aau-coach-250k/

Says it was legal at the time. Why not "admit" it?

 

[hawk-i bob]

I saw my ex-brother in law now deceased give "a" basketball player $10.00 so he could take his girlfriend to the movies...

oh that was 1967 or thereabouts.

 

[jhawkinaz]

I bought Roy Marble a few drinks once. Am I next?

Great, now we are going to have to vacate our Conference titles from that ........oh wait, never mind.

Come on Hawks, Come on Fran......1979 is too long ago!!!

 

[Franisdaman]

Says it was legal at the time. Why not "admit" it?

funneling $250,000 to an AAU coach was legal then but is now illegal? Ok, whatever Jay and you say.....

The agency made the massive $250,000 donation with hopes that Barrett, the AAU coach, could deliver Love -- first to a dinner, then later as a client. IT WAS A BRIBE. How is that legal in the FBI's mind THEN??

A bribe, after all, is defined as "money or favor given or promised in order to influence the judgment or conduct of a person in a position of trust."

 

[Hawk_4shur]

and.....people think that by allowing college players to be paid would solve all of this. Not a chance.

Oh, completely agree. No matter how much money you have, or how much you make, who couldn't use another $200k?

 

[herkI]

Please read this and then answer this: why would he admit this???

From CBSsports.com:

Coaches funneling money to players and agents finagling for positioning to land top recruits are nothing new to the sport.

The idea that agencies have been meddling with college basketball recruiting was backed up with an interesting anecdote by ESPN analyst Jay Williams, a former Duke player who had a hand in funneling money to Kevin Love's AAU coach when Love was in high school and during a stint in which Williams worked for a sports agency. He told the story unfiltered on live television this week.

"There were a lot of dealings that were being made that people didn't know about. There was a lot of money being exchanged. I know for a fact — there was a reported story from Yahoo! Sports back in 2009 — I know that we gave an AAU coach for a guy named Kevin Love who plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers. We gave him over $250,000. Now, at the time, we were also giving other players money because you were allowed to give players money through their AAU programs."

Williams' anecdote would seem to confirm a 2009 Yahoo! Sports report regarding Love's AAU team and a $250,00 payment made to Love's coach, Pat Barrett, in which the agency made the massive donation with hopes that Barrett could deliver Love -- first to a dinner, then later as a client.

Despite attending a dinner with Barrett and the agency, Love signed with a different agency down the road in part because of distrust in Williams. Williams later left the industry to become a central figure in ESPN's basketball coverage, and Love has gone on to make four NBA All-Star teams since entering the league in 2008. It seems both parties came out rosy in the end, but there was no lack of controversy along the way -- further proof that college basketball has operated in gray areas for many years without consequence.

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...ports-agency-paid-kevin-loves-aau-coach-250k/

I was channel-surfing a few nights ago and ended up watching a movie called Blue Chip where Nick Nolte was the coach at Western University and was struggling to not let his wealthy alums bribe players and their parents to play for Western. If you haven't seen it, it is all about this sort of cheating and a pretty good movie. See if you can find it on Netflix, Amazon or whatever.