Are Americans really so lazy that they need 20 days before election day to vote early? I personally think that 10 days is plenty because you have 2 weekends.
Early voting laziness
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Why do you care about that extra 10 days? I've been voting since 1992 and while I've voted for a variety of parties over the years, I don't recall ever changing my mind on who I was going to vote for in the last two weeks after I made up my mind. If that 10 days helps a few more people get to the polls, what's the problem?
Hillary just made it a campaign issue. She is saying that if you are against the 20 day period, you are trying to prevent people from voting. I just disagree with the whole argument. I can understand having the early voting so that people can work around their work schedule to get to the polls. But what is the argument that you cannot get your voting done during a 10 day period therefore you need 20 days.
Weird to characterize doing your duty before the deadline as lazy. I usually think of that act as efficient, well organized and laudable.
I think there's a line where is not cost effective to have polls open, but I have no problem with opening voting 30 days out.
My main concern with the extra 10 days is cost. We're requiring every municipality in America to accommodate early voting for 3 weeks at their own expense. I can't even imagine how much that is costing.
If she was for a 10 day period, many on the right would argue for 5 days. Many would argue against more than 12 hours, if that.
12 hours!?! Who can afford to pay people at polling stations for that long with this countries debt. 12 minutes of voting should suffice.
I also find it very very interesting that New York does not have early voting at all. Just election day. Why is that?
I think this is going the wrong direction. We don't need early voting, we need e-voting. I want to sit on my couch and vote with my tablet, or vote with my phone at lunchtime. Don't say it can't be done, we do trillions in banking and investing by those devices, no reason we can't vote that way.
We need early e-voting. Imagine the crap storm when someones Pentium 4 PC with 256MB RAM gives them a fit when the can't dial into AOL on Election Day. At least if they tried before hand they would be able to address the issue on way or another.
I just looked at the states that don't have early voting. Sure looks like a lot of Blue states don't allow it. Interesting.
We don't have an early voting laziness problem we have a voting laziness problem.
I looked at something. Sure looks like I made an observation. Interesting. Why is that?
Hillary is right to bring this issue up. Republican governors have created a lot of dark corners that they don't want light shone on in the last few years. It's been a concerted effort to keep minorities and young voters away from the polls.
And, I still don't like her. Just to be clear. One big thing that would help is holding elections on Sunday's. Lot's of nations around the world do this. It's the one day of the week where there would be the fewest conflicts for people to get to the polls.
And, I still don't like her. Just to be clear. One big thing that would help is holding elections on Sunday's. Lot's of nations around the world do this. It's the one day of the week where there would be the fewest conflicts for people to get to the polls.
It is interesting because Hillary just said the other day that the GOP is preventing people from voting because they are not allowing more early voting. The states that she mentions are swing states and they already have early voting of some kind. It is interesting to me because if she truly cared about people getting the opportunity to vote, she would make sure that she directed her talking point to the Blue states that don't have early voting. Of course those don't matter because they are already Blue therefore it can't help her win more states in the general election.
I can't believe that New York doesn't have early voting with all of the people there.
I can't believe that New York doesn't have early voting with all of the people there.
Why don't certain states have early voting? Which states don't? Do they make up for it with extended hours on election day? Are the states more likely to be unionized where the workers are guaranteed election day off?
Cutting off access to the polls is un-American. Allowing a concealed carry permit to be valid ID in Texas, but not allowing a college student's ID to be valid is horrible. Closing polling stations in minority districts and forcing them to travel to vote is horrible. Allowing pollsters to shutoff voting at 5pm while people wait in line is horrible. Everything should be done to promote a higher turnout. But, this is what the Republican Party needs to do in order to win in some states. Suppress minority and youth voting, and gerrymander the s*** out of some districts.
Cutting off access to the polls is un-American. Allowing a concealed carry permit to be valid ID in Texas, but not allowing a college student's ID to be valid is horrible. Closing polling stations in minority districts and forcing them to travel to vote is horrible. Allowing pollsters to shutoff voting at 5pm while people wait in line is horrible. Everything should be done to promote a higher turnout. But, this is what the Republican Party needs to do in order to win in some states. Suppress minority and youth voting, and gerrymander the s*** out of some districts.
Fair enough. I was just wondering if you think this will end up being a significant talking point during the campaign.
I don't think the number of people is all that important, it's the number of polling places per person. You don't see the long lines of people waiting to vote in ny because you can vote on almost even block in nyc.
Maybe because getting a concealed carry permit requirement is different from getting a college student ID in Texas.
If everything should be done to increase turnout why not just complain about Texas not accepting a college ID? Look at it this way - if you are a college student with a concealed carry permit then you can vote.
I don't know if it will be an election issue. It is being used to energize the base right now and to change the narrative of her campaign. She has to get the minority vote to come out in large numbers like Obama
The way to do it is to run the early voting from the county registrar's office. Those people are just sitting around doing nothing anyway.
What better time to remind you to vote like Jesus would?
I don't see this as a problem. I think voting is an obligation, and it takes some effort. I think that voting should have to be in person on a designated election day, absent a valid reason for an absentee ballot.
Making it too easy to vote simple encourages the lazy, low information types to cast careless ballots. If you do not care enough to get to the polls, then you probably are not well-informed enough to vote.
It doesn't read like you actually think voting is an obligation. It reads like you think jumping through some rather arbitrary hoops is an obligation. But I do appreciate that you frame it correctly, even if you fail to base your policy position on that principle.
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