So, you have no numbers to post.
I have more; PET/CT performed in 2012 (actual data). $4200, insurance paid $2000
12 yrs later, that same procedure today is probably $6-7k.
Emergency room expenses.
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I have more; PET/CT performed in 2012 (actual data). $4200, insurance paid $2000
12 yrs later, that same procedure today is probably $6-7k.
Yup. Nothing says “reduced costs” like a monopoly run by a huge organization that is (wait for it) $34 Trillion in debt.
I would 100% be ok with making a deal with the GOP. Stop funding defenses of all these nations IF we can use those dollars to fund some type of universal healthcare system here in the States.
Having nationalized coverage means people don't run to the ER because they don't have insurance, the most expensive place for any frontline care. And they do not actually get "care" there, they get "stabilized and released", so chronic conditions mean repeat visits.
Dude has no clue what tests were run and diagnostic imaging was performed.
$45k is not a major medical bill anymore, and negotiated insurance rates will be far below that billed amount.
My guess is about 1/3 of it, but could be as high as half. Won't be "list price" w/ any negotiated rate insurer.
But if you listen to conservatives, all the people in the UK and Canada hate their system and pine for our system....
We certainly dont need to send them the 3.3 billion that we do every year
Incredible she took a trip to the ER and was out in 5-6 hrs.
@BrianNole777 has a sweet ACA plan that has drastically reduced his out of pocket costs!
John Q Public doesn't realize how many people with no money or insurance go to the ER where they will be seen as opposed to a clinic or urgent care where they may not be seen.
I do believe health care is a human right. If we spent less money giving billionaires tax breaks, we could make it happen. (they'll still be rich as f)
Sure doc. So you’ll be happy with making VA Dr wages? What specialty are you in?
My ACA plan deductible is $9,500.
I saw a world renowned cardiologist for a routine consultation and his office charged my insurance $601 for a 30 minute visit. 2 weeks later, he asked if I wanted to take a calcium test which he already ordered and gave me...so much for "world class." 😆
My insurance paid $211 and I paid $90.
I got an echocardiogram yesterday. I'll probably pay $1,200+ for because my deductible is sky high and won't cover it.
CSB.
Actually, I keep tabs on this. They make way more money than the attorneys you despise
It definitely can be. Few years ago we took our son (mild autism) for tests twice a week to get an official diagnosis. After 1 month they told us they needed 1-2 more months to determine what they thought. Kind of sad the bills in the mail make you think about stopping your child's diagnosis, future, and aftercare etc.
If he is world renowned, surely you can drop a name so we can see what makes him world class
My PC Dr always comes in and wants me to do this test, that test, see this specialist, that specialist etc. He seems confused when i say i can’t afford to do all that. He responds “you dont have insurance?” He has no clue how much you have to pay before insurance covers one dime in this country.
OP's coworker messed up. You're supposed to shop around for healthcare so that the competitive marketplace will reduce prices. If they had just taken a few hours to figure out which local ER offered the best value, this never would have happened.
But if we have free healthcare no one will work at the university. Because you know they don’t actually get paid anything but they have the great benefits.
The benefits where they never have to pay a dime for anything medical related.
Health care for all is a lofty goal and no one is turned away from an ER. It’s the law.
But your statement about billionaires and tax breaks…is that intentionally dumb?
Healthcare Systems run under a Charge Master system which sets the price for every service. The chargemaster price is usually set at the absolute highest rate that they can get any of their insurers to pay. That's so they don't lose out on any money. Then all the insurers generally negotiate that way way down from where it's set. Last year I had a $200,000 + surgery as it was first charged. My health insurance company ended up paying around $64,000. I had a $3,500 out of pocket charge based on my yearly maximum. I thought I did okay. And I would say most Physicians have no idea what the hospital or Healthcare System charges for their services. Either their own personal professional fee or certainly the fees the hospital charges for their services, tests, procedures. They know very well what they get paid for their professional fee, but generally not what the hospital or clinic charges the patient.
67,500/200,000 = 33.8%
Just about 1/3, which was what I'd posted on Page 1....
#NegotiatedRates
I told you moron, my source (lady sitting next to me) is better than any google search you can do.
It's my last comment.
Wasted enough time arguing with you.
I dont despise attorneys. You have me confused with someone else perhaps.
Now that multiple posters have verified what I'd posted (negotiated rates are about 1/3 of "list price"), you're bailing.
BAU, idiot.
Translation: My claims have been debunked so I'm bailing now.
No kidding. My last ER visit was 3.5 hours for 3 stiches.
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