Your anecdotes are not data. Nor, do you know if you’d have experienced the exact same outcomes without a mask.
Just like you’ve done every fall flu season, mask free, for your many, many years on this planet.
Face mask effectiveness: What science knows now
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Just like you’ve done every fall flu season, mask free, for your many, many years on this planet.
Mask effectiveness is mostly dependent on the compliance when wearing it. There are other factors like mask material, fit, hygiene, etc.
Mandating a mask is pointless because people won't wear it appropriately if they don't believe I works. It's sort of a self fulfilling prophecy.
Masks (even cloth masks) provide some level of protection when worn correctly. Possibly ranging from 30-99% effective. I suppose some might not find 30% effective enough to warrant wearing a mask. In this case i respect your decision.
Did doctors wear masks in public for 100 years? No, they wear them in close proximity to sick people or in sterile controlled environments. As soon as those situations change the mask comes off. Doctors weren't wearing masks in Walmart in 2018 because they wanted to show everyone how effective they were at slowing the spread of airborne viruses. No doctor I've ever seen even suggested wearing a mask during cold and flu season or in my experience in life have I ever seen them wearing one in public to set an example. But yes, by all means believe the doctors now. 🙄
This is correct. The designer cloth masks from Nordstrom really weren't that effective and as most have said in this thread, it's still up for debate on just how much; especially considering how people wore them. When I had COVID last year I wore an N-95 if I needed to leave my bedroom and it's the only type of mask I still have in our house.
Again, I had zero issues wearing cloth masks back in 2020. I just don't see much point in them now, and if people are sick they should stay home or wear an N-95 and still try to limit contact with others. Oh, and I still think it's funny seeing people riding around alone in a car with a cloth mask on, BUT they have the freedom to do that as much as I have the freedom to not.
Conclusions
The filtration, effectiveness, fit, and performance of cloth masks are inferior to those of medical masks and respirators. Cloth mask use should not be mandated for healthcare workers, who should as a priority be provided proper respiratory protection. Cloth masks are a more suitable option for community use when medical masks are unavailable. Protection provided by cloth masks may be improved by selecting appropriate material, increasing the number of mask layers, and using those with a design that provides filtration and fit. Cloth masks should be washed daily and after high-exposure use by using soap and water or other appropriate methods.
Effectiveness of Cloth Masks for Protection Against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2
Cloth masks have been used in healthcare and community settings to protect the wearer from respiratory infections. The use of cloth masks during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic is under debate. The filtration effectiveness of cloth masks is ...
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And here we are back to covid is the flu when it's convenientMasking was required in cities across the country in the 1918 flu epidemic.
Why not? They didn't hurt anyone and these comments are in hindsight. When they were mandated, I'd venture to say no one was thinking that people would wear them as chin holders, never wash them and pull them down when someone said, "Huh? I can't understand you, you're muffled." The mandate itself wasn't dumb, it was the application.
Link? (Seriously, I'd like to know).
That's because they do not understand "math".
They certainly did during the 1918 flu pandemic.
The R0 for Covid was several times higher than it was for flu.
Without modern drugs and medical knowledge, it would most likely have been as lethal, or more lethal than the 1918 pandemic.
1918 says he's full of shit.
Documented masking norms have already been posted.
...I just don't understand why we're still arguing about it (myself included). Who cares!? There aren't any mask mandates going on and if people do or do not want to wear them why should I care?
My optometrist had a paper-type, non N-95 mask on Friday during my appointment. She was the only one in her office wearing one. I have no idea why she was wearing one either. I didn't ask and it didn't hamper her work. She was obese, so I did assume she has health concerns.
My optometrist had a paper-type, non N-95 mask on Friday during my appointment. She was the only one in her office wearing one. I have no idea why she was wearing one either. I didn't ask and it didn't hamper her work. She was obese, so I did assume she has health concerns.
We know
It spread more rapidly than flu, and has much higher incidence for long-term sequelae than flu.
Then why are you comparing it to the Flu? Because it furthers your $cientic agenda.
Because it is seasonal, like the flu.
When it first hit, it was far far worse than flu.
