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PSA. As if 10:00 am, The HYVee on Douglas Avenue in Urbandale has the 2016 Abyss and barrel aged Ten Fidy at its growler station. The Abyss is priced very well.
 
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Can't really narrow it down to a favorite.

Imperial Stout-KBS
Imperial IPA-Green Flash Palate Wrecker
Scotch ale-backwoods bastard
Everyday IPA-Two Hearted
Tailgate beer-Pabst or Budweiser
 
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I will start...

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Or this especially in the summer

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Water is cheaper and costs less.
 
Varies depending on my current mood/craving/taste. That said... perhaps Founders' Kentucky Bourbon Stout.

Full, rounded body... the bourbon barrel aging really helps this. Semi sweet. Roasty chocolate helps finish off the sweet and smooth up front. Really kicks at 12% abv.

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I haven't tried the Founders KBS. How does it compare to Goose Island's?
 
I don't mean to be skeptical but, on 4/1/2016, the Draught House on Mills Civic in West Des Moines had a keg of KBS. We lucked into being there and had a long conversation with the General Manager who didn't have a clue about the KBS phenomenon. He was stunned that my wife and I were so thrilled to be paying $9 for a full pint (I'd pay that or more for a snifter). He told us that the keg cost approximately $1,000. He felt that the price would "scare" away customers but he was constrained due to the keg cost. If you do the math, with no waste (they were not allowing "tastes"), the bar would make about $116 on the keg. I told him that we appreciated the price but that he was underpricing it. For full pints (16 oz), he should have been charging at least $12, if not more. In actuality, he should have been serving it in 8 oz snifters for $9. He would have not only doubled his revenue but that is how a KBS or other high-gravity, barrel aged Stout should be served.

If you found a bar selling it at $5/pint, that bar would have lost about 35% on their purchase of the keg.

The Des Moines metro received a grand total of 6 kegs of it last year. I have a hard time believing that any of those establishments didn't understand that they were receiving a limited release, that they were paying a premium price and priced the pours so that it would take a hit financially.

That written, if you find an place like that - please post it immediately. I'll throw my growlers in the car and take advantage. If they are willing to sell $5 pints, perhaps they'd be naive enough to sell growlers of it.

And, yes, I already know that I'm a stout geek/dork/snob. One must recognize one's faults.

Speaking of stouts ... Madhouse is having its Carpe Diem 2017 release on 2/17. Great local stout. Could be the best. Better than Milkman Stout, Sir Moch A Lot and, IMO, better than Jesus On A Forklift (although the latter is really good).

I liked reading your post and agree with some of what you said but there's a few points you made I'll attempt to refute.

As far as what they paid for the keg, I think the manager was exaggerating a tad...even if they got a 1/2 barrel of that beer, $1000 for one keg seems exorbitant. Most places got 1/4 barrels from what I saw and I'm guessing those were more in the range of $250-400. I wouldn't bet my paycheck on it, but I'm pretty sure more than 6 places in DSM got KBS. I doubt a place like el bait shop was limited to just one keg.

I'm sure most places that brought it in were aware of the high price tag but all it takes is the wrong manager being on duty when a keg blows and putting on a special release beer they weren't aware of just so they don't have an open line when they're busy. It happens more than you would think.

You're right on carpe diem being a great stout. It's because of the emergence of great local breweries like that that you no longer have to step over your own grandmother to get beers like KBS or hopslam. Plenty of other good options nowadays
 
I liked reading your post and agree with some of what you said but there's a few points you made I'll attempt to refute.

As far as what they paid for the keg, I think the manager was exaggerating a tad...even if they got a 1/2 barrel of that beer, $1000 for one keg seems exorbitant. Most places got 1/4 barrels from what I saw and I'm guessing those were more in the range of $250-400. I wouldn't bet my paycheck on it, but I'm pretty sure more than 6 places in DSM got KBS. I doubt a place like el bait shop was limited to just one keg.

I'm sure most places that brought it in were aware of the high price tag but all it takes is the wrong manager being on duty when a keg blows and putting on a special release beer they weren't aware of just so they don't have an open line when they're busy. It happens more than you would think.

You're right on carpe diem being a great stout. It's because of the emergence of great local breweries like that that you no longer have to step over your own grandmother to get beers like KBS or hopslam. Plenty of other good options nowadays

$1,000 for a 1/2 barrel of KBS is about right.
124 16 oz pints. $12 per pint.
248 8 oz snifters. $8-$9 per snifter.

The Beer Manager at my local HyVee told me that they $1,000 for a 1/2 barrel of BA Ten Fidy.

As for the number of kegs distributed to Des Moines metro area on 4/1/2016, that came directly from the Brewmaster at Flix with whom I've become friends through a colleague in my office. I know that Bait Shop has received an occasional keg since 4/1, but they didn't get more than one on 4/1.

Even bars like HopCat in Grand Rapids, which sell a shit ton of Founders' product, won't get more than one keg at a time.

The bars that got KBS kegs don't tap it randomly or mistakenly. It's a big event.

Out of curiousity, what was the name of the Des Moines area bar where you were able to buy $5 pints of KBS?
 
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Shelf beers I can get locally.

Racer 5 IPA
Victory Prima Pils
DFH Beer for Breakfast
Ballast Point Scullpin Pineapple


Beers not found locally

Cantillon Fou Foune
Founders CBS
Heady Topper
Pseudo Sue
 
Favorite to order in the PNW is Sticky Hands by Block 15.

Favorite to order in the Midwest is Blonde Fatale by Peace Trea
 
Just to note, Boulder Tap House in Mason City has hop slam on tap, 10oz pours for $5.50.
First time I've had it in 4 years. Delicious beer.
 
My top 3 right now are
Dosvidanya Russian imperial stout from Destihl
Two Hearted from Bells
Todd the Axe Man from Surly
 
I liked reading your post and agree with some of what you said but there's a few points you made I'll attempt to refute.

As far as what they paid for the keg, I think the manager was exaggerating a tad...even if they got a 1/2 barrel of that beer, $1000 for one keg seems exorbitant. Most places got 1/4 barrels from what I saw and I'm guessing those were more in the range of $250-400. I wouldn't bet my paycheck on it, but I'm pretty sure more than 6 places in DSM got KBS. I doubt a place like el bait shop was limited to just one keg.

I'm sure most places that brought it in were aware of the high price tag but all it takes is the wrong manager being on duty when a keg blows and putting on a special release beer they weren't aware of just so they don't have an open line when they're busy. It happens more than you would think.

You're right on carpe diem being a great stout. It's because of the emergence of great local breweries like that that you no longer have to step over your own grandmother to get beers like KBS or hopslam. Plenty of other good options nowadays

I just talked to someone that I'd consider to be "in the know." Although he didn't want to give me the exact price that he paid for the keg that was made available to them, it is a fair estimate that the pricing of KBS kegs would be in ballpark of $6.00 per pint capacity. At that rate (and I'm assuming a linear pricing schedule), a 1/2 barrel would have been priced in ballpark of $744 (124 pints * $6) and a 1/4 barrel would have been priced at just under $400 (66 pints * $6).

So . . . yes . . . you would be absolutely correct in your comment that the manager was exaggerating . . . and in a not insignificant sum.

He did also comment that any place selling full pints of KBS for $5 was making a big mistake but that he'd like to be on the purchasing end of that mistake!
 
Anyone ever tried this? I got some last night, and I'm not sure what I think. It's not gross by any means, but it's way fruitier than I thought it was going to be.

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