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March 13: IOWA ends up #34 in the NET Rankings with 8 Quad 1 Wins, 5 Quad 2 Wins. 2 Quad 3 LOSSES

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March 13: IOWA is #34 in the NET Rankings. How NET is Determined & What's a QUAD 1, 2, 3 & 4 Win/Loss

See the graphic on how NET rankings are determined at the end of this post.

NET rankings of all 353 teams: https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

Here is information on how teams will be selected for the NCAA Tournament: https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...-what-know-about-college-basketballs-new-tool

Reminder:

* 32 teams receive automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament by winning their conference tournament.

* The NCAA Selection Committee only selects the 36 at-large teams.


TWO things (among other tools) will be used by the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee when selecting the 36 at-large NCAA Tourney Teams & then seeding all 68 teams:

(1) The NET ranking, an index that incorporates the most current evaluation measures; and

(2) A tighter definition of a quality win, classifying wins as Quad 1, Quad 2, Quad 3 and Quad 4.

The hope is that by using (1) and (2) we will have a more accurate selection and seeding procedure.

The quad system will be used on team sheets, which sort results in the following manner:

NOTE 1: As you can see in the link that follows (sort by Q1_W), only 9 teams on March 13 have more Quad 1 wins than Iowa. LINK: https://bracketresearch.com/team-quadrant-wins-and-losses-tracker/

NOTE 2: There has been fluidity from ONE DAY to the NEXT in both the NET rankings & in the number of Quad 1, Quad 2, Quad 3, and Quad 4 wins & losses.

Fluidity is the key word here. For example:

On Feb 17, we were at 7 quad 1 wins, 4 quad 2 wins, or 11 total.

On Feb 19, we were at 9 quad 1 wins, 2 quad 2 wins, or 11 total.

On Feb 20, we were at 7 quad 1 wins, 4 quad 2 wins, or 11 total.

On Feb 21 & 22, we were at 8 quad 1 wins, 4 quad 2 wins, or 12 total.

From Feb 23-29, we were at 7 quad 1 wins, 5 quad 2 wins, or 12 total.

From March 1-4, we were at 8 quad 1 wins, 5 quad 2 wins, or 13 total.

From March 6-7, we were at 9 quad 1 wins, 4 quad 2 wins, or 13 total.

From March 8-10, we were at 7 quad 1 wins, 6 quad 2 wins, or 13 total.

On March 13, we were at 8 quad 1 wins, 5 quad 2 wins, or 13 total.


NOTE 3: Rankings of opponents listed below are from March 9, 2020, unless otherwise noted. Therefore, a Quad 1, Quad 2, Quad 3 or Quad 4 win on the date listed (March 9) might not be a Quad 1, Quad 2, Quad 3 or Quad 4 win TODAY or in mid March (there has been fluidity from one day to the next). Time will tell.


SORTING OF #34 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (20-11) INTO THE 4 QUADS:


Quad 1 (8-8): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WIN #22 Texas Tech (N)
WIN #18 Maryland (H)
WIN #64 Syracuse (A)
WIN #43 Minnesota (A)
WIN #25 Michigan (H)
WIN #24 Wisconsin (H)
WIN #16 Ohio State (H)
WIN #30 on March 13: Rutgers (H)

LOSS #4 San Diego State (N)
LOSS #25 Michigan (A)
LOSS #35 Penn State (N)
LOSS #18 Maryland (A)
LOSS #33 Purdue (A)
LOSS #60 Indiana (A)
LOSS #7 Mich State (A)
LOSS #38 Illinois (A)


Quad 2 (5-1): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

WIN #43 Minnesota (H)
WIN #38 Illinois (H)
WIN #98 Iowa State (A)
WIN #35 Penn State (H)
WIN #51 Cincinnati (N)

LOSS #33 Purdue (H)


Quad 3 (2-2): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

WIN #158 Northwestern (A)
WIN #143 Oral Roberts (H)

LOSS #198 Nebraska (A)
LOSS #86 DePaul (H)

Quad 4 (5-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WIN #336 SIU-Edwardsville (H)
WIN #324 Cal Poly (H)
WIN #352 Kennesaw State (H)
WIN #198 Nebraska (H)
WIN #176 North Florida (H)

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0 games left on the 2019-2020 reg season schedule:

Quad 1 (0 games): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75

Quad 2 (0 games): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

Quad 3 (0 games): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

Quad 4 (0 games): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

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2019-2020 NET Rankings for Iowa (notice the fluidity):

#34 March 5-13
#35 March 4 (after losing at home to #35 Purdue)
#29 Feb 28-March 3
#28 Feb 26-27
#27 Feb 20-25
#29 Feb 19
#28 Feb 17-18
#30 Feb 14-16
#26 Feb 12-13
#28 Feb 9-11
#30 Feb 6-8
#22 Feb 5
#21 Feb 3-4
#24 Feb 2
#21 Jan 31, Feb 1
#20 Jan 29-30
#21 Jan 28
#22 Jan 27
#23 Jan 26
#21 Jan 24-25
#22 Jan 23
#27 Jan 21-22
#26 Jan 19-20
#28 Jan 18
#29 Jan 17
#30 Jan 16
#31 Jan 13-15
#32 Jan 12
#33 Jan 11
#43 Jan 9-10
#47 Jan 8 (after losing at Nebraska)
#33 Jan 6-7
#32 Jan 5
#30 Jan 4
#26 Jan 3
#23 Jan 2
#26 Dec 31, Jan 1
#24 on Dec 30
#25 Dec 29
#26 Dec 23-Dec 28
#27 Dec 22
#28 Dec 21
#33 Dec 16 (initial rankings)
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ALL B1G TEAMS' (March 13, 2020) NET RANKINGS:

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
7 7 Michigan St. Big Ten 22-9 7-4 3-2 12-3 0-0
16 16 Ohio St. Big Ten 21-10 4-7 1-1 16-2 0-0
18 18 Maryland Big Ten 24-7 5-6 3-0 16-1 0-0
23 23 Wisconsin Big Ten 21-10 6-6 0-3 15-1 0-0
24 24 Michigan Big Ten 19-12 4-7 4-0 11-5 0-0
30 30 Rutgers Big Ten 19-11 2-8 0-2 17-1 1-0
32 32 Purdue Big Ten 16-15 4-8 1-2 11-5 0-0
34 34 Iowa Big Ten 20-11 4-7 2-2 14-2 0-0
35 35 Penn St. Big Ten 21-10 5-6 2-1 14-3 0-0
39 39 Illinois Big Ten 20-10 6-6 0-1 14-3 1-0
42 42 Minnesota Big Ten 15-16 2-10 2-1 11-5 0-0
56 56 Indiana Big Ten 20-12 2-8 3-0 15-4 0-0
164 164 Northwestern Big Ten 8-23 2-10 1-2 5-11 0-0
199 199 Nebraska Big Ten 7-25 0-12 2-2 5-11 0-0
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To see all teams' NET Rankings & quad results, open link that follows, scroll down on the page that comes up & on the far right you will see NET Team Sheets - Games through [date]. Click on the most recent link or a previous date.

LINK: https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/SitePages/Home.aspx

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Misc Note: The season kicked off on Nov 4, 2019. In 2018, the first ever NET rankings were revealed on November 26, 2018. This year the initial NET rankings were revealed on Dec 16.
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The most consistent outcome year-over-year is the Selection Committee's exclusion of bubble teams with truly embarrassing non-league schedules.

From ESPN.com

Good schedule, bad schedule: Who helped, harmed their NCAA tournament chances?

It was the biggest question on Selection Sunday 2019. What would be the fate of North Carolina State? The Wolfpack were a classic bubble team, whose record -- 22-11 overall, 9-9 conference, 1-1 ACC tournament (with a quarterfinal loss to top seed Virginia) -- seemed to fall on the good side of the at-large cut line.

Except for a single data point: NC SOS No. 353, shorthand for the worst non-conference schedule in all of Division I men's basketball. Worse than Longwood (12-17, No. 352), worse than Western Illinois (8-21, No. 350), worse than Jacksonville (10-20, No. 345), worse than Fordham (11-20, No. 344). Among major conference members only DePaul (15-15, No. 351) was in the same neighborhood, and the Blue Demons have made only one NCAA tournament this century.

Say what you want about the NCAA Men's Basketball Committee -- and I have -- but the most consistent outcome year-over-year is its exclusion of bubble teams with truly embarrassing non-league schedules. Nine of NC State's 22 wins came against sub-200 opponents in home-court "buy" games, a preposterous (and presumably expensive!) number that left the Pack with a pedestrian 13-11 record against meaningful competition.

The Committee was not fooled by NC State's NET ranking (No. 33), relegating the Wolfpack to the NIT as a No. 2 seed. Had the RPI still been in effect, the Pack (No. 83) wouldn't have made the Selection Sunday conversation at all.

The moral of the story is simple: In the NET era, teams probably can't schedule themselves into the NCAA tournament anymore. But they can absolutely schedule themselves out of it. N.C. State was Exhibit A last season, but Indiana (No. 209), Georgetown (No. 248) and Colorado (No. 255) were among those with what I like to call NIT-type schedules who got exactly what they deserved.

With that in mind, we present the mostly annual "You heard it here first..." column. None of these teams should be surprised -- or complain, depending on the category -- when Selection Sunday 2020 comes around.

The Bad...

i


Iowa Hawkeyes
Potential bubble teams need to avoid Quad Four in any great number. Instead, the Hawkeyes will entertain in Iowa City before the calendar turns in January.:

* SIU-Edwardsville,
* Oral Roberts,
* North Florida,
* Cal Poly and
* Kennesaw

That's a risky proposition for a team that often sneaks into the NCAA tournament as a double-digit seed.

i


Maryland Terrapins
What do Holy Cross, Oakland, Fairfield and Bryant have in common? They are more than one-third of Maryland's non-conference schedule and that is dangerous Quad Four territory for a program desperate for a major breakthrough season. Maybe Oakland drifts into Quad Three, but why take the chance?

i


Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Two years ago, the Irish were the first team out. Last year they lost their last seven regular-season games and never had a chance. With five obvious Quad Four home games by the end of December, Notre Dame is just asking for another season on the bubble. Mike Brey usually finds a way to make it work, but it's counterintuitive.

i


Florida Gators
The Gators are a trendy choice for a great NCAA seed and Final Four run, but they don't have a single Quad One lock among their non-conference opponents. Florida State (home) and Connecticut (away) could get there, but better bets might be Xavier (possible Charleston Classic final) and/or Utah State (Orange Bowl Classic).

i


NC State Wolfpack
It's better than last year, but not enough to get the Wolfpack off the "naughty list." St. Francis (N.Y.), Alcorn State, Little Rock, The Citadel and Appalachian State are all coming to Raleigh. The Committee all but hit the Pack in the head with a bat last March, and I'm not sure the best response is to buy a helmet.

The Ugly...

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Texas Tech Red Raiders
The need to rebuild a Final Four team doesn't excuse this mess. Eastern Illinois, Bethune-Cookman, Houston Baptist, Tennessee State and Long Island all visit Lubbock before Thanksgiving. Two more Quad Fours -- UT Rio Grande and Cal State Bakersfield -- come in December. The Red Raiders better hope they're not close to the bubble.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...2/helped-harmed-their-ncaa-tournament-chances
 
Last year we went 6-0 in Quad 4.

It looks like the schedule has improved where we only have five Quad 4 opponents this year:

* SIU-Edwardsville,
* Oral Roberts,
* North Florida,
* Cal Poly
* Kennesaw


HERE WAS THE SORTING OF LAST YEAR'S #43 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (22-11) INTO THE 4 QUADS:


Quadrant 1 (4-10): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WINS
# 24 on Jan 16 (H) Iowa State
#60 on Feb 23; #84 on Jan 17 (A) Penn State
#2 on Jan 17 Michigan (H)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (A)

LOSSES
# 20 on Jan 16 (H) Wisconsin
#7 on Jan 16 (A) Michigan State
#17 on Jan 16 (A) Purdue
#6 on Jan 17 Michigan State (H)
#63 on Jan 17 Minnesota (A)
#21 on Jan 17 Maryland (H)
#36 on Jan 17 Ohio State (A)
#22 on Jan 17 Wisconsin (A)
#46 on Feb 23; #11 on Jan 17 Nebraska (A)
#9 on March 16 Michigan (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)

Quadrant 2 (7-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

WINS
#77 on Jan 16 (N) Oregon
#88 on Jan 16 (N) UConn
#85 on Feb 23; # 58 on Jan 16 (A) Northwestern
# 36 on Jan 16 (H) Ohio State
#46 on Feb 23; # 10 on Jan 16 (H) Nebraska
#109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (A)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (H)


Quadrant 3 (5-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

WINS
#112 on Feb 23; #53 on Jan 16 (H) Pittsburgh
#169 on Feb 23; #217 on Jan 16 (N) UNI
#99 on Jan 17 Illinois (H)
#85 on Feb 23; #59 on Jan 17 Northwestern (H)
#109 on March 15 Illinois (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)

LOSSES
#94 on March 3; #109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (H)


Quadrant 4 (6-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WINS
#234 on Jan 16 (H) UMKC
#192 on Jan 16 (H) Green Bay
#324 on Jan 16 (H) Alabama State
#269 on Jan 16 (H) Western Carolina
#343 on Jan 16 (H) Savannah State
#316 on Jan 16 (H) Bryant
 
It is interesting that we seem to really head more toward the extremes on our scheduling. This is how I see our non conference shaking into the tiers:

Q1 (4): Texas Tech (N), Iowa State (A), Syracuse (A), Cincinnati (N)
Q2 (1): Creighton/San Diego St. (N)
Q3 (1): DePaul (H)
Q4 (5): SIU Edwardsville (H), Oral Roberts (H), North Florida (H), Cal Poly (H), Kennesaw St. (H)

I could see DePaul moving into Q2, and Oral Roberts & North Florida getting into Q3, which would probably help substantially, but they'd need to overachieve a bit to get there.
 
Having quadrants is stupid when they are already adjusting for quality of opponent and result in the original calculation.
 
Good news! We will have a winning record and we will be 2-1 after Friday!

Also, the game is on BTN Plus! LOVE the Plus!

Bad news? We will be 2-0 in Quad 4 (Home vs a 161-353) after beating #297 (end of last season) Oral Roberts of the Summit League.
 
Last season, end of season NET Rankings:

343: Kennesaw
333: Cal Poly
WIN 329: SIU-Edwardsville
WIN 297: Oral Roberts
181: North Florida
LOSS 109: DePaul
 
The first NET rankings for this season should be coming out shortly.

I am guessing what follows will be our sorted results thus far (NET rankings listed are the teams' April rankings, at the end of last season).

We still have these 2 likely Quad 4 games:
#343: Kennesaw
#333: Cal Poly

Sorting of our 3-1 Record:

Quadrant 1 (0-0): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

Quadrant 2 (0-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

Quadrant 3 (0-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
LOSS #109: DePaul

Quadrant 4 (3-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
WIN #329: SIU-Edwardsville
WIN #297: Oral Roberts
WIN #181: North Florida
 
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Here's a guess of where we stand.

Sorting of our 4-1 Record:

Quadrant 1 (0-0): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

Quadrant 2 (0-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

Quadrant 3 (0-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
LOSS #109: DePaul

Quadrant 4 (4-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
WIN #329: SIU-Edwardsville
WIN #297: Oral Roberts
WIN #181: North Florida
WIN #333: Cal Poly
 
Franisdaman said:
Here's a guess of where we stand.

Sorting of our 4-1 Record:

Quadrant 1 (0-0): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

Quadrant 2 (0-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

Quadrant 3 (0-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
LOSS #109: DePaul

Quadrant 4 (4-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
WIN #329: SIU-Edwardsville
WIN #297: Oral Roberts
WIN #181: North Florida
WIN #333: Cal Poly
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Is DePaul only 109? On Kenpom they're 64 which would be a Q2.
 
If the goal is an at large bid to the NCAA tourney, then nothing about the results to date helps their case. The next 7 games could very well tell the story when it comes to the possibility of an at large bid.
 
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Is DePaul only 109? On Kenpom they're 64 which would be a Q2.
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The NET numbers I am currently using were the team's April 2019, season ending NET rankings.

I hope you are right regarding DePaul, so that it is not as bad a loss.

I am guessing that the initial 2019-2020 NET rankings come out this or next week.
 
SDHawkDoc said:
If the goal is an at large bid to the NCAA tourney, then nothing about the results to date helps their case. The next 7 games could very well tell the story when it comes to the possibility of an at large bid.
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Last year we were not overly impressive when it came to Quad 1 wins (we were 4-10).

Do you think most of our next 7 games will end up being Quad 1 (Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75) & Quad 2? Unfortunately, I think we win 2 or maybe 3 (at best) of the next 7.

Texas Tech (Nov 28)
Creighton/San Diego St
at Syracuse
at Michigan
Minny
at ISU
Cincy (Dec 21)
 
Here's a guess of where we stand.

The NET numbers I am currently using were the team's April 8, 2019, season ending NET rankings.

Sorting of our 5-1 Record:

Quadrant 1 (1-0): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WIN #7 Texas Tech

Quadrant 2 (0-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

Quadrant 3 (0-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

LOSS #109: DePaul

Quadrant 4 (4-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WIN #329: SIU-Edwardsville
WIN #297: Oral Roberts
WIN #181: North Florida
WIN #333: Cal Poly
 
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Here's a guess of where we currently stand.

The NET numbers I am currently using were the team's April 8, 2019, season ending NET rankings.

Sorting of our 5-2 Record:

Quadrant 1 (1-0): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WIN #7 Texas Tech


Quadrant 2 (0-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.


Quadrant 3 (0-2): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

LOSS #109: DePaul
LOSS #116 San Diego State


Quadrant 4 (4-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WIN #329: SIU-Edwardsville
WIN #297: Oral Roberts
WIN #181: North Florida
WIN #333: Cal Poly
 
Agree with the comments above, DePaul and San Diego St. will be quad 2 and quad 1.

Both are undefeated and significantly higher in computer rankings than they were last year.
 
BrunoMars420 said:
Those quad 3 losses hurt
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srams21 said:
I think both will end up being Quad 2 losses. One might even be a Quad one loss.
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Underscore2 said:
DePaul and SDSU will not be quad 3 losses.
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Yep. Right now it is just a guess on which bucket the losses fall into. Unfortunately, I think 4 of our wins are safely in quadrant 4.

The NET numbers I am currently using were the team's April 8, 2019, season ending NET rankings.

And whatever quadrant the losses fall into now might not be the quadrant they end up in March. There was movement last year and there will be movement this year as well.
 
DePaul and SDSU are highly likely to move up from quad 3.
Probably won't see anything from the quad 4 group, but could be helpful if one of those turds would manage to sneak into quad 3.
 
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I still think it’s stupid to weight the overall rankings based on game locations, and then weight them AGAIN by using location to categorize wins and losses.

If the want to use quadrants that’s fine, but the rankings already account for home/away/neutral so there’s no need to do it again when analyzing a resume.
 
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