March 13: IOWA ends up #34 in the NET Rankings with 8 Quad 1 Wins, 5 Quad 2 Wins. 2 Quad 3 LOSSES

[Franisdaman]

It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, after today's game.

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
2 2 Ohio St. Big Ten 11-1 1-1 1-0 9-0 0-0
16 18 Penn St. Big Ten 10-2 1-1 1-1 8-0 0-0
18 16 Michigan Big Ten 9-3 0-2 3-0 6-1 0-0
19 20 Maryland Big Ten 10-2 0-2 3-0 7-0 0-0
22 22 Michigan St. Big Ten 9-3 2-0 3-2 4-1 0-0
25 26 Iowa Big Ten 9-3 2-1 2-1 5-1 0-0
28 28 Minnesota Big Ten 7-5 0-3 1-1 6-1 0-0
29 44 Wisconsin Big Ten 7-5 1-2 0-3 6-0 0-0
30 30 Indiana Big Ten 11-1 0-1 2-0 9-0 0-0
42 40 Rutgers Big Ten 9-3 0-2 0-1 9-0 0-0
46 45 Purdue Big Ten 8-5 1-2 1-2 6-1 0-0
50 48 Illinois Big Ten 7-4 1-2 0-1 6-1 1-0
140 145 Northwestern Big Ten 5-6 1-2 1-1 3-3 0-0
174 176 Nebraska Big Ten 5-7 0-3 2-1 3-3 0-0

Iowa's NET ranking keeps dropping:
#25 December 29
#26 December 23-December 28
#27 December 22
#28 December 21
#33 December 16 (initial ranking)

 

[HawkLand]

Very surprised Iowa moved up after Kennesaw game. NET is a much bigger fan of Iowa this year. Or better phrased, a big fan of our much improved NCSOS.

 

[Franisdaman]

Very surprised Iowa moved up after Kennesaw game. NET is a much bigger fan of Iowa this year. Or better phrased, a big fan of our much improved NCSOS.

Yeah, I thought we would drop a few spots.

Good grief; Northwestern dropped 40 spots in one day!

I updated the orig post with this:


SORTING OF #24 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (10-3) INTO THE 4 QUADS:

NOTE: Rankings listed below are from Dec 26, 2019. There may be some fluidity from one day to the next.

Quadrant 1 (3-2): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WIN #32 Texas Tech (N)
WIN #28 Minnesota (H)
WIN #69 Iowa State (A)

LOSS #1 San Diego State (N)
LOSS #16 Michigan (A)


Quadrant 2 (2-1): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

WIN #79 Syracuse (A)
WIN #87 Cincinnati (N)

LOSS #36: DePaul (H)


Quadrant 3 (1-0): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

WIN #109: Oral Roberts (H)


Quadrant 4 (4-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WIN #349: SIU-Edwardsville (H)
WIN #208: North Florida (H)
WIN #322: Cal Poly (H)
WIN #345 Kennesaw State (H)


18 games left on the 2019-2020 reg season schedule:

Quadrant 1 (11 games): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75
Ohio State
Penn State (N)
Penn State
Maryland
at Maryland
Michigan
at Mich State
at Indiana
at Illinois
at Purdue
at Minnesota
.
Quadrant 2 (4 games): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.
Illinois
Purdue
Wisconsin
Rutgers

Quadrant 3 (2 games): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
at Nebraska
at Northwestern

Quadrant 4 (1 games): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

Nebraska


2019-2020 NET Rankings for Iowa (notice the fluidity):

#24 on December 30
#25 December 29
#26 December 23-December 28
#27 December 22
#28 December 21
#33 December 16 (initial ranking)

ALL B1G TEAMS' (Dec 30, 2019) NET RANKINGS:

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
3 2 Ohio St. Big Ten 11-2 1-1 1-1 9-0 0-0
15 16 Penn St. Big Ten 11-2 1-1 1-1 9-0 0-0
16 19 Maryland Big Ten 11-2 0-2 3-0 8-0 0-0
17 18 Michigan Big Ten 10-3 0-2 3-0 7-1 0-0
19 22 Michigan St. Big Ten 10-3 2-0 3-2 5-1 0-0
24 25 Iowa Big Ten 10-3 2-1 2-1 6-1 0-0
28 28 Minnesota Big Ten 7-5 0-3 1-1 6-1 0-0
34 29 Wisconsin Big Ten 7-5 1-2 0-3 6-0 0-0
37 42 Rutgers Big Ten 9-3 0-2 0-1 9-0 0-0
47 50 Illinois Big Ten 8-4 1-2 0-1 7-1 1-0
50 46 Purdue Big Ten 8-5 1-2 1-2 6-1 0-0
56 30 Indiana Big Ten 11-2 0-1 2-0 9-1 0-0
169 174 Nebraska Big Ten 6-7 0-3 2-1 4-3 0-0
180 140 Northwestern Big Ten 5-7 1-2 1-1 3-4 0-0

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

Has anyone found downloadable (ideally excel -- .txt, .csv, etc.) NET information? It appears they're only posting pdf of the team sheets on the archive site this year.

 

[IllQChawk]

Can someone explain why Penn St. has a Net Ranking of 16? Home game wins against Maryland Eastern Shore, Wagner, Bucknell, Yale, Wake Forest, Maryland, Alabama, Central Connecticut State, and Cornell, they beat Georgetown at Georgetown in the Gavitt Tipoff game, Lost to Ole Miss and beat Syracuse on a neutral court in New York, and lost by 32 to Ohio St in Columbus.
Is that schedule really that much better then Iowa's with their Net Ranking of 25?

 

[go-hawks37]

Would be nice if Syracuse road win and Cincinnati neutral site win moved up to Quad 1 wins.

 

[Ronman]

I think I read that San Diego St., with the exception of their upcoming game at Utah St., will be favored in the rest of their contests this season.

 

[HawkLand]

Iowa state has moved into a solid Quad 1 win for us at #59. Unless they collapse they shouldn’t have too much trouble staying in that Quad 1 win range of 70 or better. ISU has moved from #82 to #59 while playing one game against Fort Wayne. The NET can be very volatile this time of year.

 

[tjb]

Can someone explain why Penn St. has a Net Ranking of 16?

If the NET hasn't been tweaked, a reverse-engineering type look last year by Sports Illustrated credited raw victory margins (apparently regardless of opponent) with juicing the NET.

Penn State has 7 20+ wins, 4 25+ and 2 30+. Iowa has 4 20+, 3 25+ and 1 30+.

Maybe...

 

[paladinhawk]

If the NET hasn't been tweaked, a reverse-engineering type look last year by Sports Illustrated credited raw victory margins (apparently regardless of opponent) with juicing the NET.

Penn State has 7 20+ wins, 4 25+ and 2 30+. Iowa has 4 20+, 3 25+ and 1 30+.

Maybe...

thanks for the link:

When it comes to scheduling, the elimination of the RPI’s punishment for playing cupcakes and this reward for net efficiency could result in teams scheduling efficiency-boosting bottom feeders in nonconference play. (And with the NET’s adjusted winning percentage giving road wins more than twice the value of home wins, might a bubble-conscious team dare to kill two birds with one stone and hunt for a blowout road win? If it gets an ACC team in a MAAC gym, count me in.)

I hope the bolded sentence isn't accurate but Penn St.'s NET ranking (along with other examples in the article) have me liking NET a little less.

Also could explain why IA went up after blowing out Kennesaw St.

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

thanks for the link:

When it comes to scheduling, the elimination of the RPI’s punishment for playing cupcakes and this reward for net efficiency could result in teams scheduling efficiency-boosting bottom feeders in nonconference play. (And with the NET’s adjusted winning percentage giving road wins more than twice the value of home wins, might a bubble-conscious team dare to kill two birds with one stone and hunt for a blowout road win? If it gets an ACC team in a MAAC gym, count me in.)

I hope the bolded sentence isn't accurate but Penn St.'s NET ranking (along with other examples in the article) have me liking NET a little less.

Also could explain why IA went up after blowing out Kennesaw St.

To be fair, Iowa blew out Kennesaw St. by 12 more than we were supposed to, per vegas... we deserved to creep up.

 

[paladinhawk]

To be fair, Iowa blew out Kennesaw St. by 12 more than we were supposed to, per vegas... we deserved to creep up.

The issue as I see it is that getting Quad 4 win versus a really bad team (Kennesaw St.) might be better for a team's NET ranking (due to the offensive efficiency metric) than getting a Quad 2 against a much better opponent ( where presumably Iowa would have a lower offensive efficiency).

 

[go-hawks37]

8-5 Wisconsin is up to 27 in the Net Rankings and UNI dropped 44 spots to 66 after there loss. Things change fast this time of year.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Iowa state has moved into a solid Quad 1 win for us at #59. Unless they collapse they shouldn’t have too much trouble staying in that Quad 1 win range of 70 or better. ISU has moved from #82 to #59 while playing one game against Fort Wayne. The NET can be very volatile this time of year.

Welp..........

 

[HawkLand]

Welp is right. Good lord ISU.

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

It would be really interesting to know how the NET would be if ISU had hit a heave at the buzzer for a 1 point win. Doesn't really change the performance, but I expect the impact to the NET ranking would be significantly different.

 

[Franisdaman]

8-5 Wisconsin is up to 27 in the Net Rankings and UNI dropped 44 spots to 66 after there loss. Things change fast this time of year.

So far for Iowa there has been mostly good movement in their NET ranking.

#26 on December 31 & Jan 1
#24 on December 30
#25 December 29
#26 December 23-December 28
#27 December 22
#28 December 21
#33 December 16 (initial ranking)

 

[Franisdaman]

Welp is right. Good lord ISU.

IS-who went from 59 (Quad 1 win) yesterday to 86 (Quad 2 win) today.

It was worth them getting embarrassed

 

[go-hawks37]

Iowa State can easily move back up in the Net rankings with a good win. They’ll have plenty of chances.

 

[Franisdaman]

Today, Jan 2, Iowa is #23.

Last season, Iowa got as low as #22 on two separate occasions: Jan 23 and Feb 2.

As you can see, TWELVE B1G teams are in the Top 51 of the NET rankings.


Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
3 3 Ohio St. Big Ten 11-2 1-1 1-1 9-0 0-0
15 15 Penn St. Big Ten 11-2 1-1 1-1 9-0 0-0
16 18 Michigan Big Ten 10-3 0-2 3-0 7-1 0-0
18 17 Maryland Big Ten 11-2 0-2 3-0 8-0 0-0
19 19 Michigan St. Big Ten 10-3 2-0 3-2 5-1 0-0
23 26 Iowa Big Ten 10-3 2-1 2-1 6-1 0-0
28 27 Wisconsin Big Ten 8-5 1-2 0-3 7-0 0-0
30 32 Minnesota Big Ten 7-5 0-3 1-1 6-1 0-0
31 33 Rutgers Big Ten 9-3 0-2 0-1 9-0 1-0
44 43 Purdue Big Ten 8-5 1-2 1-2 6-1 0-0
46 45 Illinois Big Ten 8-4 1-2 0-1 7-1 1-0
51 51 Indiana Big Ten 11-2 0-1 2-0 9-1 0-0
177 174 Northwestern Big Ten 5-7 1-2 1-1 3-4 0-0
178 175 Nebraska Big Ten 6-7 0-3 2-1 4-3 0-0

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Unlike other predictive metrics the NET uses only data from this season. There are still too few data points to get overly worried about it.

I also believe the margin of victory effect is capped at 10 per game.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Big opportunity Saturday.

 

[UnionBarForever]

Big opportunity Saturday.

I wonder if the Penn State game will be treated as a neutral site game vs. an away game with it being in Philadelphia.

 

[Chishawk1425]

I wonder if the Penn State game will be treated as a neutral site game vs. an away game with it being in Philadelphia.

Great question. I could see it either way.

 

[Franisdaman]

I wonder if the Penn State game will be treated as a neutral site game vs. an away game with it being in Philadelphia.

ugh; i think its considered neutral

 

[Franisdaman]

Today, Jan 4, Iowa is #30.

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
10 3 Ohio St. Big Ten 11-3 1-1 1-1 9-1 0-0
14 14 Michigan St. Big Ten 11-3 2-0 3-2 6-1 0-0
16 18 Michigan Big Ten 10-3 0-2 3-0 7-1 0-0
17 19 Maryland Big Ten 11-2 0-2 3-0 8-0 0-0
18 16 Penn St. Big Ten 11-2 1-1 1-1 9-0 0-0
24 29 Wisconsin Big Ten 9-5 2-2 0-3 7-0 0-0
29 31 Rutgers Big Ten 10-3 1-2 0-1 9-0 1-0
30 26 Iowa Big Ten 10-3 2-1 2-1 6-1 0-0
35 35 Minnesota Big Ten 7-6 0-4 1-1 6-1 0-0
37 39 Purdue Big Ten 9-5 1-2 1-2 7-1 0-0
44 47 Indiana Big Ten 11-2 0-1 2-0 9-1 0-0
53 55 Illinois Big Ten 8-5 1-3 0-1 7-1 1-0
165 164 Northwestern Big Ten 5-7 1-2 1-1 3-4 0-0
172 171 Nebraska Big Ten 6-8 0-3 2-1 4-4 0-0

 

[Hawksfor3]

As you've said, it is fluid.

 

[Franisdaman]

what sucks is today's game, since not played in Happy Valley, is considered Neutral.

 

[Hawksfor3]

what sucks is today's game, since not played in Happy Valley, is considered Neutral.

It does. I'm so mad I think I'm going to watch the Bills and Houston.

 

[Franisdaman]

It does. I'm so mad I think I'm going to watch the Bills and Houston.

ughhhhh.....I hear Booger McFarland's voice....

 

[Hawksfor3]

My goodness what a run by Watson!

 

[Franisdaman]

SORTING OF #32 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (10-4) INTO THE 4 QUADS:

NOTE: Rankings listed below are from Dec 26, 2019, unless otherwise noted. There may be some fluidity from one day to the next.

Quadrant 1 (3-3): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WIN #32 Texas Tech (N)
WIN #28 Minnesota (H)
WIN #69 Iowa State (A)

LOSS #1 San Diego State (N)
LOSS #16 Michigan (A)
LOSS Penn State (N); #17 on Jan 5


Quadrant 2 (2-1): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

WIN #79 Syracuse (A)
WIN #87 Cincinnati (N)

LOSS #36: DePaul (H)


Quadrant 3 (1-0): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

WIN #109: Oral Roberts (H)


Quadrant 4 (4-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WIN #349: SIU-Edwardsville (H)
WIN #208: North Florida (H)
WIN #322: Cal Poly (H)
WIN #345 Kennesaw State (H)


17 games left on the 2019-2020 reg season schedule:

Quadrant 1 (10 games): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75
Ohio State
Penn State
Maryland
at Maryland
Michigan
at Mich State
at Indiana
at Illinois
at Purdue
at Minnesota
.
Quadrant 2 (4 games): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.
Illinois
Purdue
Wisconsin
Rutgers

Quadrant 3 (2 games): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
at Nebraska
at Northwestern

Quadrant 4 (1 games): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
Nebraska


2019-2020 NET Rankings for Iowa (notice the fluidity):

#32 Jan 5
#30 Jan 4
#26 Jan 3
#23 Jan 2
#26 December 31 & Jan 1
#24 on December 30
#25 December 29
#26 December 23-December 28
#27 December 22
#28 December 21
#33 December 16 (initial ranking)

ALL B1G TEAMS' (Jan 5, 2020) NET RANKINGS:

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
11 10 Ohio St. Big Ten 11-3 1-1 1-1 9-1 0-0
12 14 Michigan St. Big Ten 11-3 2-0 3-2 6-1 0-0
14 17 Maryland Big Ten 12-2 0-2 3-0 9-0 0-0
17 18 Penn St. Big Ten 12-2 1-1 2-1 9-0 0-0
19 16 Michigan Big Ten 10-3 0-2 3-0 7-1 0-0
28 24 Wisconsin Big Ten 9-5 2-2 0-3 7-0 0-0
30 29 Rutgers Big Ten 10-3 1-2 0-1 9-0 1-0
32 30 Iowa Big Ten 10-4 2-1 2-2 6-1 0-0
35 37 Purdue Big Ten 9-5 1-2 1-2 7-1 0-0
37 35 Minnesota Big Ten 7-6 0-4 1-1 6-1 0-0
45 44 Indiana Big Ten 11-3 0-2 2-0 9-1 0-0
49 53 Illinois Big Ten 8-5 1-3 0-1 7-1 1-0
163 165 Northwestern Big Ten 5-7 1-2 1-1 3-4 0-0
167 172 Nebraska Big Ten 6-8 0-3 2-1 4-4 0-0

 

[Franisdaman]

Today, 12 of the B1G teams are in the Top 48 in the NET rankings.

Iowa has to beat the worst team (#168 Debbie) in the B1G tomorrow.

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
10 12 Michigan St. Big Ten 12-3 2-0 3-2 7-1 0-0
11 11 Ohio St. Big Ten 11-3 1-1 1-1 9-1 0-0
14 14 Maryland Big Ten 12-2 0-2 3-0 9-0 0-0
17 17 Penn St. Big Ten 12-2 1-1 2-1 9-0 0-0
20 19 Michigan Big Ten 10-4 0-3 3-0 7-1 0-0
26 28 Wisconsin Big Ten 9-5 2-2 0-3 7-0 0-0
29 30 Rutgers Big Ten 10-3 1-2 0-1 9-0 1-0
33 32 Iowa Big Ten 10-4 2-1 2-2 6-1 0-0
38 49 Illinois Big Ten 9-5 1-3 0-1 8-1 1-0
40 37 Minnesota Big Ten 8-6 0-4 1-1 7-1 0-0
46 45 Indiana Big Ten 11-3 0-2 2-0 9-1 0-0
48 35 Purdue Big Ten 9-6 1-3 1-2 7-1 0-0
167 163 Northwestern Big Ten 5-8 1-3 1-1 3-4 0-0
168 167 Nebraska Big Ten 6-8 0-3 2-1 4-4 0-0

 

[Hawksfor3]

PSU didn't move and we lost one spot. Not bad. But I agree. Don't pee the bed tomorrow.

 

[Franisdaman]

PSU didn't move and we lost one spot. Not bad. But I agree. Don't pee the bed tomorrow.

if you didn't see it:

* Connor was sick & didn't practice yesterday (Sunday)

* CJ's status (foot/ankle) is still up in the air; I would say he's doubtful for tomorrow

 

[Hawksfor3]

if you didn't see it:

* Connor was sick & didn't practice yesterday (Sunday)

* CJ's status (foot/ankle) is still up in the air; I would say he's doubtful for tomorrow

Will we ever be healthy again?

 

[Franisdaman]

Will we ever be healthy again?

Hopefully Riley doesn't get sick again and have to go to San Fran for treatment

 

[Franisdaman]

SORTING OF #47 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (10-5) INTO THE 4 QUADS:

NOTE: Rankings listed below are from Dec 26, 2019, unless otherwise noted. There may be some fluidity from one day to the next.

Quadrant 1 (3-3): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WIN #32 Texas Tech (N)
WIN #28 Minnesota (H)
WIN #69 Iowa State (A)

LOSS #1 San Diego State (N)
LOSS #16 Michigan (A)
LOSS Penn State (N); #17 on Jan 5


Quadrant 2 (2-1): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

WIN #79 Syracuse (A)
WIN #87 Cincinnati (N)

LOSS #36: DePaul (H)


Quadrant 3 (1-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

WIN #109: Oral Roberts (H)

LOSS Nebraska (A); #150 on Jan 8


Quadrant 4 (4-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WIN #349: SIU-Edwardsville (H)
WIN #208: North Florida (H)
WIN #322: Cal Poly (H)
WIN #345 Kennesaw State (H)


16 games left on the 2019-2020 reg season schedule:

Quadrant 1 (10 games): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75

Ohio State
Penn State
Maryland
at Maryland
Michigan
at Mich State
at Indiana
at Illinois
at Purdue
at Minnesota
.
Quadrant 2 (4 games): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

Illinois
Purdue
Wisconsin
Rutgers

Quadrant 3 (1 game): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

at Northwestern

Quadrant 4 (1 game): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

Nebraska


2019-2020 NET Rankings for Iowa (notice the fluidity):

#47 Jan 8
#33 Jan 6 & Jan 7
#32 Jan 5
#30 Jan 4
#26 Jan 3
#23 Jan 2
#26 December 31 & Jan 1
#24 on December 30
#25 December 29
#26 December 23-December 28
#27 December 22
#28 December 21
#33 December 16 (initial ranking)

ALL B1G TEAMS' (Jan 8, 2020) NET RANKINGS:

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
9 10 Michigan St. Big Ten 12-3 2-0 3-2 7-1 0-0
12 14 Maryland Big Ten 13-2 0-2 3-0 10-0 0-0
14 12 Ohio St. Big Ten 11-4 1-2 1-1 9-1 0-0
20 29 Rutgers Big Ten 11-3 1-2 0-1 10-0 1-0
23 20 Michigan Big Ten 10-4 0-3 3-0 7-1 0-0
24 17 Penn St. Big Ten 12-3 1-2 2-1 9-0 0-0
26 26 Wisconsin Big Ten 9-5 2-2 0-3 7-0 0-0
37 38 Illinois Big Ten 9-5 1-3 0-1 8-1 1-0
40 41 Minnesota Big Ten 8-6 0-4 1-1 7-1 0-0
44 44 Indiana Big Ten 11-3 0-2 2-0 9-1 0-0
47 33 Iowa Big Ten 10-5 2-2 2-2 6-1 0-0
51 49 Purdue Big Ten 9-6 1-3 1-2 7-1 0-0
150 170 Nebraska Big Ten 7-8 0-3 2-1 5-4 0-0
161 163 Northwestern Big Ten 5-8 1-3 1-1 3-4 0-0

 

[Franisdaman]

Remember, we are now half way thru the reg season (15 of 31 games) and have just one bad loss.

A lot of teams out there have at least one bad loss. Even Duke!

 

[Hawksfor3]

Remember, we are now half way thru the reg season (15 of 31 games) and have just one bad loss.

A lot of teams out there have at least one bad loss. Even Duke!

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Until CJ gets to where he can play again, and until we can get more point production from Cordell and Bakari, then maybe we can get our offense flowing again like it was when we had success. I know Bakari is able to, since he had 15 pts vs Cincy. He has scored 3 points since that game. Guys need to step up coming off the bench. I hate to beat this dead horse, but for gosh sake, if the 3's aren't falling, then make some adjustments. When Garza gets double and triple teamed in the post, then kick it out fast to the guards. But when our jumpers aren't falling it doesn't help.