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March 6 NET Rankings: Iowa Drops 4 Spots to #37 (was #60 on Jan 8). Has 6 Quad 1 Wins (Purdue leads the B1G w/ 9)

How is it possible for Minnesota to be so bad when they have fertile recruiting ground in Minneapolis and Big 10 prestige?

Good question but the problem is that schools like Gonzaga and Wisconsin (and even Iowa State) have come in and taken some very good players. Ben Johnson said he was going to put an end to it (or at least try). We'll see.
 
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Another big Quad 1 game coming up:

* Thur Feb 9 at #4 NET Purdue (6:00 pm CT, ESPN2).


Feb 5 NET Rankings:

Quad 1:
Home (1-30), Neutral (1-50), Away (1-75)

IOWA's Quad 1 wins:
at #51 Seton Hall
#12 Iowa State
at #19 Rutgers
#21 Indiana
#19 Rutgers
#28 Maryland
#26 Illinois


Quad 2: Home (31-75), Neutral (51-100), Away (76-135)

IOWA's Quad 2 wins:
#64 Clemson (neutral site)
#57 Northwestern
#74 Michigan


NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


43PurdueBig Ten22-27-14-011-19-23-05-05-0
1919RutgersBig Ten16-72-40-114-24-44-21-17-0
2122IndianaBig Ten16-73-51-112-13-64-13-06-0
2625IllinoisBig Ten16-73-32-211-23-64-13-06-0
2832MarylandBig Ten16-72-52-112-13-74-02-07-0
3334IowaBig Ten15-82-41-212-27-53-20-05-1
3636Ohio St.Big Ten11-111-62-28-32-83-20-06-1
4546Michigan St.Big Ten14-93-52-29-24-73-13-14-0
5354Penn St.Big Ten14-81-52-111-22-73-14-05-0
5757NorthwesternBig Ten15-74-21-110-44-42-31-08-0
6968WisconsinBig Ten13-83-43-17-34-63-21-05-0
7471MichiganBig Ten12-102-42-38-32-83-12-05-1
10199NebraskaBig Ten10-132-81-27-31-102-31-06-0
237224MinnesotaBig Ten7-151-61-15-81-100-31-15-1


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The day after Iowa beat Illinois, their NET Ranking did not drop 2 spots and Illinois' did not raise 1 spot.

As you can see, Iowa's NET IMPROVED from #34 to #33 and Illinois' NET DROPPED from #25 to #26.

NET Rankings, of course, fluctuate a bit from day to day. Today, for example, Iowa is #35 based on results from last night. No big deal.

Today's NET Rankings:

NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


44PurdueBig Ten22-27-14-011-19-23-05-05-0
1919RutgersBig Ten16-72-40-114-24-44-21-17-0
2222IndianaBig Ten16-73-51-112-13-63-14-06-0
2526IllinoisBig Ten16-73-32-211-22-64-14-06-0
2728MarylandBig Ten16-72-52-112-13-63-13-07-0
3533IowaBig Ten15-82-41-212-27-53-10-15-1
4241Ohio St.Big Ten11-121-72-28-32-93-10-16-1
4545Michigan St.Big Ten14-93-52-29-23-74-13-14-0
5252NorthwesternBig Ten16-75-21-110-44-42-33-07-0
5858Penn St.Big Ten14-91-62-111-22-63-34-05-0
6868MichiganBig Ten13-102-42-39-32-84-12-05-1
7777WisconsinBig Ten13-93-43-17-44-63-31-05-0
9696NebraskaBig Ten11-132-81-28-31-103-31-06-0
236235MinnesotaBig Ten7-151-61-15-81-90-41-25-0
 
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Thanks, Fran. I love me some NET rankings.

I hadn't checked to see where NW was recently. I figured they would be in the low 40s. With the way they started conference play, I thought they were headed to the Dance (Collins has 1 other appearance in 2017).

We still have some work to do. Can't lose to OSU or Nebbie again.
 
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Thanks, Fran. I love me some NET rankings.

I hadn't checked to see where NW was recently. I figured they would be in the low 40s. With the way they started conference play, I thought they were headed to the Dance (Collins has 1 other appearance in 2017).

We still have some work to do. Can't lose to OSU or Nebbie again.

Speaking of Northwestern, this is an interesting thank you.

 
A bizarre distribution but if you told me we at the beginning of the year we would be tied for 3rd in the B1G after 12 league games I would have taken it for sure. Great shot at a double bye in the Conference tourney.

Here is the current log jam.

We've beaten every team except the one at the top and the one at the bottom.

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As usual, there is some minor changes in the daily NET rankings.

NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


44PurdueBig Ten22-27-14-011-19-23-05-05-0
1919RutgersBig Ten16-82-50-114-24-54-21-17-0
2022IndianaBig Ten17-73-51-113-14-63-14-06-0
2625IllinoisBig Ten16-73-32-211-22-64-14-06-0
2827MarylandBig Ten16-82-62-112-13-73-13-07-0
3435IowaBig Ten15-82-41-212-27-53-10-15-1
4042Ohio St.Big Ten11-121-72-28-32-93-10-16-1
4345Michigan St.Big Ten15-93-52-210-24-74-13-14-0
5352NorthwesternBig Ten16-75-21-110-44-42-33-07-0
5858Penn St.Big Ten14-91-62-111-22-63-34-05-0
7068MichiganBig Ten13-102-42-39-32-84-12-05-1
7777WisconsinBig Ten13-93-43-17-44-63-31-05-0
9596NebraskaBig Ten11-132-81-28-31-103-31-06-0
238236MinnesotaBig Ten7-151-61-15-81-90-41-25-0
 
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As usual, there is some minor changes in the daily NET rankings.

NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


44PurdueBig Ten22-27-14-011-19-23-05-05-0
1919RutgersBig Ten16-82-50-114-24-54-21-17-0
2022IndianaBig Ten17-73-51-113-14-63-14-06-0
2625IllinoisBig Ten16-73-32-211-22-64-14-06-0
2827MarylandBig Ten16-82-62-112-13-73-13-07-0
3435IowaBig Ten15-82-41-212-27-53-10-15-1
4042Ohio St.Big Ten11-121-72-28-32-93-10-16-1
4345Michigan St.Big Ten15-93-52-210-24-74-13-14-0
5352NorthwesternBig Ten16-75-21-110-44-42-33-07-0
5858Penn St.Big Ten14-91-62-111-22-63-34-05-0
7068MichiganBig Ten13-102-42-39-32-84-12-05-1
7777WisconsinBig Ten13-93-43-17-44-63-31-05-0
9596NebraskaBig Ten11-132-81-28-31-103-31-06-0
238236MinnesotaBig Ten7-151-61-15-81-90-41-25-0
I would need somebody to explain OSU's lofty NET. I don't actually care but it would probably be interesting. I'm clearly missing something...didn't review their schedule.
 
I would need somebody to explain OSU's lofty NET. I don't actually care but it would probably be interesting. I'm clearly missing something...didn't review their schedule.
I think it's because they beat last place in B12 Texas Tech, who beat the world champion Cyclones, and by transitive property OSU is now world champion.
(Really it makes no sense other than they lose to quality teams (except Minnesota at home, oof), and is another example of why the Net has its flaws and is not solely relied upon by the Committee for the Tournament).
 
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Wisconsin improved from #77 to #72 with their win at now #62 PSU. As a result, IOWA's home loss to Wisconsin went from from Quad 3 to Quad 2.

Feb 9 NET Rankings:

NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


44PurdueBig Ten22-27-14-011-19-23-05-05-0
2020IndianaBig Ten17-73-51-113-14-64-13-06-0
2119RutgersBig Ten16-82-50-114-24-54-21-17-0
2626IllinoisBig Ten16-73-32-211-23-64-13-06-0
2828MarylandBig Ten16-82-62-112-13-84-02-07-0
3434IowaBig Ten15-82-41-212-27-53-20-05-1
4140Ohio St.Big Ten11-121-72-28-32-93-20-06-1
4243Michigan St.Big Ten15-93-52-210-25-73-13-14-0
5253NorthwesternBig Ten16-75-21-110-45-42-31-08-0
6258Penn St.Big Ten14-101-62-111-32-63-44-05-0
6470MichiganBig Ten14-102-42-310-32-84-13-05-1
7277WisconsinBig Ten14-94-43-17-46-62-31-05-0
10295NebraskaBig Ten11-142-91-28-31-113-31-06-0
238238MinnesotaBig Ten7-151-61-15-81-100-31-15-1
 
A win at #237 Minny is a must


Feb 10 NET Rankings:

Quad 1:
Home (1-30), Neutral (1-50), Away (1-75)

IOWA's Quad 1 wins:
at #59 Seton Hall
#13 Iowa State
at #21 Rutgers
#20 Indiana
#21 Rutgers
#28 Maryland
#26 Illinois


Quad 2: Home (31-75), Neutral (51-100), Away (76-135)

IOWA's Quad 2 wins:
#70 Clemson (neutral site)
#49 Northwestern
#64 Michigan


NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


44PurdueBig Ten23-27-14-012-19-24-05-05-0
2020IndianaBig Ten17-73-51-113-14-64-13-06-0
2121RutgersBig Ten16-82-50-114-24-54-21-17-0
2626IllinoisBig Ten16-73-32-211-23-54-23-06-0
2828MarylandBig Ten16-82-62-112-13-84-02-07-0
3534IowaBig Ten15-92-51-212-27-63-20-05-1
4142Michigan St.Big Ten15-93-52-210-26-72-13-14-0
4641Ohio St.Big Ten11-131-72-28-42-93-30-06-1
4952NorthwesternBig Ten17-76-21-110-46-42-31-08-0
6262Penn St.Big Ten14-101-62-111-32-63-44-05-0
6464MichiganBig Ten14-102-42-310-32-84-13-05-1
7272WisconsinBig Ten14-94-43-17-45-63-31-05-0
103102NebraskaBig Ten11-142-91-28-31-113-31-06-0
237238MinnesotaBig Ten7-151-61-15-81-100-31-15-1
 
Iowa is one of just SIX teams in the country with 7 or more Quad 1 wins.

Only Texas (8) Purdue (9) and Kansas (10) have more Q1 wins than Iowa.

The 6 Teams, by Power 6 Conference:

4: Big 12
(Kansas, Baylor, Texas, Iowa State)
2: B1G (Purdue, IOWA)

0: ACC
0: SEC
0: PAC 12
0: Big East


Here are those 6 teams in more detail:

NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


910KansasBig 1219-54-33-112-110-54-02-03-0
44PurdueBig Ten23-27-14-012-19-24-05-05-0
109TexasBig 1219-54-32-113-18-52-03-06-0
1313Iowa St.Big 1216-72-62-112-07-72-01-06-0
1111BaylorBig 1218-63-33-112-27-64-00-07-0
3534IowaBig Ten15-92-51-212-27-63-20-05-1
 
The quad 4 loss is still killing Iowa.

when you look at the SIX teams in the country with 7 Quad 1 wins or more, that Eastern Illinois loss looks like it cost us around 20 spots in the NET.

do you agree?


NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


910KansasBig 1219-54-33-112-110-54-02-03-0
44PurdueBig Ten23-27-14-012-19-24-05-05-0
109TexasBig 1219-54-32-113-18-52-03-06-0
1313Iowa St.Big 1216-72-62-112-07-72-01-06-0
1111BaylorBig 1218-63-33-112-27-64-00-07-0
3534IowaBig Ten15-92-51-212-27-63-20-05-1
 
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when you look at the SIX teams in the country with 7 Quad 1 wins or more, that Eastern Illinois loss looks like it cost us around 20 spots in the NET.

do you agree?


NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


910KansasBig 1219-54-33-112-110-54-02-03-0
44PurdueBig Ten23-27-14-012-19-24-05-05-0
109TexasBig 1219-54-32-113-18-52-03-06-0
1313Iowa St.Big 1216-72-62-112-07-72-01-06-0
1111BaylorBig 1218-63-33-112-27-64-00-07-0
3534IowaBig Ten15-92-51-212-27-63-20-05-1
The 2 Quad 2 losses have some effect as well.
 
The quad 4 loss is still killing Iowa.
The NET rankings are still a little goofy to me. I think rankings should be judged by how good your wins are and how bad your losses are. but take this example:

Iowa has 7 Q1 wins and 1 Q4 loss.

Utah St. has 0 Q1 wins and 2 Q4 losses.

Yet Utah St. is two spots HIGHER than Iowa!!! I get defensive efficiency is probably hurting, but Iowa plays far superior offensive players on a nightly basis than Utah St.

Make this make sense.

(Edit: and Boise St. only has 2 Q1 wins, and a Q3 loss and Q4 loss yet they are 8 spots higher than Iowa?! Bad losses don't hurt everyone equally it seems).
 
The NET rankings are still a little goofy to me. I think rankings should be judged by how good your wins are and how bad your losses are. but take this example:

Iowa has 7 Q1 wins and 1 Q4 loss.

Utah St. has 0 Q1 wins and 2 Q4 losses.

Yet Utah St. is two spots HIGHER than Iowa!!! I get defensive efficiency is probably hurting, but Iowa plays far superior offensive players on a nightly basis than Utah St.

Make this make sense.

(Edit: and Boise St. only has 2 Q1 wins, and a Q3 loss and Q4 loss yet they are 8 spots higher than Iowa?! Bad losses don't hurt everyone equally it seems).
The NET rankings are just another efficiency metric at the end of the day. It's just a sorting tool to determine whether a win is good and a loss is bad. We should care very little about our own NET ranking and care more about our opponents NET ranking. Your own NET has very little to do with seeding a team or even getting into the tournament--it's no different than the other efficiency metrics that are on the team sheet: KenPom, BPI and Sagarin.
We are in the 5th year of using the NET and folks still not understanding how to utilize it is seems to indicate the NCAA needs to do more education around it.

 
The NET rankings are still a little goofy to me. I think rankings should be judged by how good your wins are and how bad your losses are. but take this example:

Iowa has 7 Q1 wins and 1 Q4 loss.

Utah St. has 0 Q1 wins and 2 Q4 losses.

Yet Utah St. is two spots HIGHER than Iowa!!! I get defensive efficiency is probably hurting, but Iowa plays far superior offensive players on a nightly basis than Utah St.

Make this make sense.

(Edit: and Boise St. only has 2 Q1 wins, and a Q3 loss and Q4 loss yet they are 8 spots higher than Iowa?! Bad losses don't hurt everyone equally it seems).

Our NET ranking today is unchanged (still #35). There's a lot that goes into it, of course.

KenPom, similarly, has us at #32. He has our offense ranked 5th in the country & our defense #159.

Iowa is dead last in the B1G in defense.

The B1G teams ranked by defense:

Defense..Offense...Team
Rank
........Rank........Rank
2.................124............17.....Rutgers
18.................52...........25....Illinois
20..................3.............5.....Purdue
25.................41...........24.....Maryland
26.................75...........42....Michigan State
28...............135...........64....Wisconsin
29................95...........50....Northwestern
42................18............21.....Indiana
60..............187..........104....Nebraska
72................42...........51.....Michigan
93................19...........39.....Ohio State
106.............23...........56.....Penn State
150............281..........221....Minnesota
159..............5..........32....Iowa
 
Games this week:

Quad 2: Thu Feb 16 vs #54 NET Ohio State. 8 pm CT, ESPN2
Quad 1: Sun Feb 19 at #44 NET Northwestern, 5:30 pm CT, BTN

Note that Wisconsin (#80) is now a Quad 3 loss.


Feb 13 NET Rankings:

Quad 1:
Home (1-30), Neutral (1-50), Away (1-75)

IOWA's Quad 1 wins:
at #61 Seton Hall
#16 Iowa State
at #21 Rutgers
#17 Indiana
#21 Rutgers
#28 Maryland
#22 Illinois


Quad 2: Home (31-75), Neutral (51-100), Away (76-135)

IOWA's Quad 2 wins:
#77 Clemson (neutral site)
#44 Northwestern
#68 Michigan


Quad 3: Home (76-160), Neutral (101-200), Away (136-240)
Quad 4: Home (161-358), Neutral (201-358), Away (241-358)


NET
Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4


44PurdueBig Ten23-37-24-012-19-34-04-06-0
1717IndianaBig Ten18-74-51-113-15-63-13-07-0
2121RutgersBig Ten16-92-60-114-24-64-21-17-0
2222IllinoisBig Ten17-73-32-212-23-64-13-07-0
2828MarylandBig Ten17-82-62-113-13-73-13-08-0
3241Michigan St.Big Ten16-94-52-210-26-73-13-14-0
3938IowaBig Ten16-93-51-212-27-63-10-16-1
4449NorthwesternBig Ten18-76-21-111-46-42-32-08-0
5448Ohio St.Big Ten11-141-72-28-52-93-30-16-1
6766Penn St.Big Ten14-111-72-111-32-53-54-15-0
6867MichiganBig Ten14-112-42-310-42-94-12-06-1
8080WisconsinBig Ten14-104-53-17-45-63-41-05-0
100100NebraskaBig Ten12-142-91-29-31-113-31-07-0
241239MinnesotaBig Ten7-161-61-15-91-90-51-15-1
 
Yesterday, Feb 12, Iowa's NET dropped from 35 to 38 (thanks to Clemson, Iowa St, etc).

Today it dropped one spot even with the win at Minny.
 
Here's where our 6 remaining games fall.

We have TWO more Quad 1 opportunities at the moment.


Quad 1: Home (1-30), Neutral (1-50), Away (1-75)

Sun Feb 19 at # 44 N'western, 5:30 pm CT, BTN
Tue Feb 28 at #17 Indiana, 6 pm CT, ESPN or ESPN2



Quad 2: Home (31-75), Neutral (51-100), Away (76-135)

Thu Feb 16 vs # 54 Ohio State, 8 pm CT, ESPN2
Wed Feb 22 at #80 Wisconsin, 8 pm CT, BTN
Sat Feb 25 vs # 32 Michigan State, 11 am CT, ESPN or ESPN2



Quad 3: Home (76-160), Neutral (101-200), Away (136-240)

Sun Mar 5 vs # 100 Nebraska, 1 pm CT, BTN


Quad 4: Home (161-358), Neutral (201-358), Away (241-358)

N/A
 
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