Fickle Fans

[GunnerHawk]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

 

[83Hawk]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

Two losses? I can easily see only 2 more wins. And next year is going to be worse.

 

[JasonTAlexanderJR]

Can you please summarize your post in 3 sentences or less? Its Sunday.

 

[SolarHawk]

Questionable? LOFL, Gunner, wake the fvck up dude. Kirk is lost and he’s not finding his way back.

 

[Bierhalter]

Can you please summarize your post in 3 sentences or less? Its Sunday.

1. People suck for saying mean things about KF and CM.
2. Allow me to say mean things about KF and CM.

 

[peacehawk]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

“Nebraska is much improved”. How drunk are you??

 

[JasonTAlexanderJR]

1. People suck for saying mean things about KF and CM.
2. Allow me to say mean things about KF and CM.

Thanks. 😂

 

[TampaHawkfan]

Didn't read all of that.

Yeah, sports fans are fickle but I'm ready for some new blood. KF has accomplished little to nothing the past 15 years other than to get blown out when his team does actually get to the big stage (Rose Bowl, B10 title games). 26 years is plenty..

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Yes, playing on the road in the B1G is hard. A simple loss to MSU would not have been shocking. A total beat down by a 3-3 team was completely unexpected.

MSU scored 8 times. 8 times. If they convert a couple of those FG's into TD's the score would look more representative of the game we watched - 40-20.

Edit: 32 First downs for Sparty? 32?

It's just an L on the record, but it felt much worse.

 

[shrinkhawk]

hope no longer springs eternal apparently

 

[Beattheohiostate]

hope no longer springs eternal apparently

Hope is not, never was, and never will be a strategy. You need a plan. Not a concept of a plan. You need a real plan. Iowa's should be to can KF and his ENTIRE staff ASAP. But if you're looking for hope, cast your eyes on Bloomington, Indiana, where a first-year coach has Indiana poised to play for a Big Ten title in his first season on the job. When he arrived, he said he planned on doing two things: winning and entertaining. Check and check.

Of course, Indiana is a football factory that went to the Rose Bowl for its first and only time as recently as 1967, so the guy did step into a pretty sweet gig . . .

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

12.

 

[QChawks]

 

[jonesy5960]

“Nebraska is much improved”. How drunk are you??

Yeah. The problem isn't Nebraska. The problem is Iowa. They looked bad on both sides of the ball yesterday and if they play like that the rest of the year it's going to end with a thud. They need Castro back, and I'm not sure what he did to get benched, but we need Lee out on that right corner as well because the others were really bad yesterday.

The QB thing is a total mystery as well, but there's nothing new there. The passing game has dragged the team all year.

 

[1inamillion]

Hope is not, never was, and never will be a strategy. You need a plan. Not a concept of a plan. You need a real plan. Iowa's should be to can KF and his ENTIRE staff ASAP. But if you're looking for hope, cast your eyes on Bloomington, Indiana, where a first-year coach has Indiana poised to play for a Big Ten title in his first season on the job. When he arrived, he said he planned oTn doing two things: winning and entertaining. Check and check.

Of course, Indiana is a football factory that went to the Rose Bowl for its first and only time as recently as 1967, so the guy did step into a pretty sweet gig . . .

There is indiana this year. Hawks have been good to very good for 45 years. Then you have minnesota, nebraska, purdue, jnw, illinois, rutgers, Maryland that would love to have 45 decent years.

 

[Iron Doc]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

Sounds like a case of Lester having to take orders from Capt Fossil, to our ruin.
Not at all convinced that Lester has been given meaningful autonomy.

 

[BonzoFury]

I don't see "fickle" fans...I see a bunch of people very passionate about their team. If they were fickle...they wouldn't be here. Calling it like you see it, is not fickle.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

Speak for yourself, old timer.

Ain’t no one who can call me fickle.

This is the same script nearly every year. I said it during the Minnesota game and I am saying it now. Iowa will get blown out against legit top 25 teams, have one surprise performance like vs. Washington, and will have a WTF game like at MSU.

Next week, Iowa will “right the ship” against Northwestern, winning a barn burner 16-10, and you will be back on here riding Kirk’s dick while flexing.

Iowa will go to the Outback Bowl and get their ass kicked and you will be here flexing again about Kirk’s integrity and clean program.

I would say rinse and repeat but next year will be a lot different with an actual P5 schedule.

 

[texas twister]

Nothing fickle about the fans. They get excited about a win and want Captain Kirk gone at the same time. Continiously marching Cade out there for another 3 and out was embarrassing.

 

[nu2u]

GunnerHawk has explicitly stated that Kirk Ferentz is entitled to retire “on his own terms”.

Think about that for a second.

If KF wants to coach at Iowa until he is 75, Beth Goetz is obligated to extend his current employment contract.

Bonehead.

 

[WaterTower]

Yes, playing on the road in the B1G is hard. A simple loss to MSU would not have been shocking. A total beat down by a 3-3 team was completely unexpected.

MSU scored 8 times. 8 times. If they convert a couple of those FG's into TD's the score would look more representative of the game we watched - 40-20.

Edit: 32 First downs for Sparty? 32?

It's just an L on the record, but it felt much worse.

They never had to punt.

 

[BurgHawk87]

There is indiana this year. Hawks have been good to very good for 45 years. Then you have minnesota, nebraska, purdue, jnw, illinois, rutgers, Maryland that would love to have 45 decent years.

1980 has zero bearing on the last 3 years. Unless that tight end from Miami is going to transfer to Iowa in the offseason.

 

[swagsurfer02]

“Nebraska is much improved”. How drunk are you??

I do think Nebraska, Wisconsin are gonna give us a run for our money. I also don’t like playing at Maryland and UCLA either.

 

[DewHawk]

I do think Nebraska, Wisconsin are gonna give us a run for our money. I also don’t like playing at Maryland and UCLA either.

I think Iowa could very easily lose all four of those games.

 

[doughuddl2]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

Well at least YOU admitted Iowa is not as good as you think they are.

 

[swagsurfer02]

I think Iowa could very easily lose all four of those games.

Completely possible. I don’t think Indiana is 49 points better than Nebraska. Also, had MSU actually put the ball in the end zone instead of just kicking FGs they would have hit close to 50 points yesterday.

 

[rfgiowa]

Hey gunnerfickle..."fickle" fans, huh? Take a look into the mirror. 🤪

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

People like you, are why Iowa's football program can be double lapped by the likes of Indiana--do they even have a weight room--in less than 1/2 year.

 

[kegan]

After last week's beat down of Washington - everybody was amped about the Hawks. This week, they suck, coaches suck and the sky is falling. To add to the negativity the same cast of characters piled on about firing Kirk, benching McNamara, record inflated because we play bad teams, etc.

Nobody wants to admit that it is tough to win on the road, especially at MSU. I was there for our last two wins in East Lansing, the crowd is loud and hostile. I'm willing to bet few of the board whiners have been there.

My honest take for this game. We were flat and they came out fresh and ready to go. The bye week really helped them. Our defense played way too conservative against Chiles. Instead of pinning our ears back and going after him, we held our blocks and let him pick us apart. They had well over 200 yards of offense on first down, we were always backing up. Once again we played one half of football.

Yes, our secondary is not good. Losing Castro is a huge loss for us. Then Entringer went down. DB depth wasn't good to start the year. Parker has been saying that since the start of the year. McNamara played one decent half, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the first half. I thought Hill was playing.

Lester needs to open it up early. Our stubborness to run when they stack the box is not good. Getting stuffed on first and second down and having third and long, doesn't work. That is Bob Cummings football.

Bottom line, MSU played better. They have better team speed. RB's were elusive and strong runners. They beat us on the edge all day. They won both lines if scrimmage and moved the ball well.

MY 9-3 prediction now looks to be questionable. Wiscy looks very good, UCLA is getting better and it's a Friday night game out there, Maryland beat USC yesterday and Nebraska is much improved. I easily could see two losses.

Not everyone was amped. Like many of us said earlier in the season, if you enjoy following a team that consistently under performs in key areas like recruiting, QB play, overall offense philosophy/decision-making and enjoys average seasons (outside of 1 or 2 good seasons every decade), then KF's program is for you. If you're not happy with it, stop donating resources to this mess.

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

12.

BTW ...for anyone wondering, 12 is the number of times OP criticized or outright insulted coaches or players in his post chastising all of us for having the audacity to criticize coaches and players.

Rules for thee....

 

[DewHawk]

BTW ...for anyone wondering, 12 is the number of times OP criticized or outright insulted coaches or players in his post chastising all of us for having the audacity to criticize coaches and players.

Rules for thee....

Yeah, but he has been to MIchigan State a couple of times, so he is obviously an expert. I guess............

 

[doughuddl2]

Sounds like a case of Lester having to take orders from Capt Fossil, to our ruin.
Not at all convinced that Lester has been given meaningful autonomy.

Yeah watching Lester's O run the ball into a brick wall 20 times a game is eerily similar to what BF did. Wonder why that is. 🤔

 

[DewHawk]

Yeah watching Lester's O run the ball into a brick wall 20 times a game is eerily similar to what BF did. Wonder why that is. 🤔

yes, quite a coincidence to say the least. Maybe if we think really really hard, we can figure out the reason.

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

yes, quite a coincidence to say the least. Maybe if we think really really hard, we can figure out the reason.

Mathematicians refer to something called a common denominator.

But Ol' Doodle's not a mathematician....so this will just have to remain one of life's unsolved mysteries.

 

[markfromj]

Two losses? I can easily see only 2 more wins.

Right. Because you are knee jerk negative.

 

[the24fan]

Yes, playing on the road in the B1G is hard. A simple loss to MSU would not have been shocking. A total beat down by a 3-3 team was completely unexpected.

MSU scored 8 times. 8 times. If they convert a couple of those FG's into TD's the score would look more representative of the game we watched - 40-20.

Edit: 32 First downs for Sparty? 32?

It's just an L on the record, but it felt much worse.

Post of day…
This times a million. We weren’t even in the same zip code yesterday .

 

[Bow.to.the.Narrative]

Tired of losing and looking like crap on network tv all the time. Kirk needs to go.

 

[Bierhalter]

Tired of losing on network tv all the time.

Good point but for a different reason. Not sure what about that matchup warranted a game under the lights on NBC. In years past I'm sure it would have been relegated to BTN.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Well at least YOU admitted Iowa is not as good as you think they are.

Yeah watching Lester's O run the ball into a brick wall 20 times a game is eerily similar to what BF did. Wonder why that is. 🤔

I think you owe me an apology, dougie. 😝

 

[spiderland]

Right. Because you are knee jerk negative.

Finally, another superfan comes in to the defense.

BTW, your fellow superfan said (and I quote) he could “easily see two losses,” which if my math is working right, translates directly into “easily seeing only three more wins.”

But “easily seeing only two more wins” is being knee jerk negative. Lol.

Never change, mark, never change.