Finally...it's over!

[MitchLL]

You, Rico, are quite delirious.

Rico thinks passing lots of legislation is the only criteria to determine success.

In reality, having a super majority reduces compromise and shoves bills through without discussion and public input.
It's the EXACT OPPOSITE of good legislation.
Rico is dumber than his Governor.

 

[MitchLL]

You're such a liar, you just keep spouting absolutes lies.

You're still pissed that we've been laughing at you for your investment debacle!

You're dumber than a box of rocks.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Rico thinks passing lots of legislation is the only criteria to determine success.

In reality, having a super majority reduces compromise and shoves bills through without discussion and public input.
It's the EXACT OPPOSITE of good legislation.
Rico is dumber than his Governor.

Rico is smarter and definitely better of financially than you.

Besides you are a liar.

 

[MitchLL]

Rico is smarter and definitely better of financially than you.

Besides you are a liar.

You need another time out?
Mom tell you to go to bed yet?

 

[RicoSuave102954]

You need another time out?
Mom tell you to go to bed yet?

You want Iowa to transition (liberal term) to a California East and it pisses you off to no end that our illustrious Governor and the state legislature doesn't allow it. In fact, they work hard to hold fast to our conservative values.

 

[Gus is dead]

Got a couple that stand out...

Stripping AEA of funding to divert $$$ to voucher program.

Not that simple......As many already know, my wife is a teacher. She is very non-political. Has opinions but has no agenda. At all. Just goes in and does her job and comes home.

She and I were talking the other day and she started complaining about a consultant at work. A speech pathologist. The complaint was that the person hadnt been addressing well voiced concerns about a child's progress. My wife asked her (actually a they/them) to re-assess the child. The speech pathologist was shocked that the work she had been working with wasn't actually making any significant progress. Apparently, and I am no teacher, this oft requested re-assessment was late and now the child missed out on the chance to continue getting help over the summer. Something about a deadline. Educators on here can chime in.

My wife was furious. She'd been asking for 2 months to get the child looked at for this sort of help. And once the child got it, the realization that the child hadn't progressed, was a surprise to the pathologist. I asked my wife where the consultant came from. You guessed it. The AEA. I asked her if the school was happy with the services the AEA provided and she said more teachers than not admit that the service they get from the local AEA hasn't been good enough. Most were unhappy about the defunding discussion but admitted that they would love to have other options when the AEA is failing. As it has been locally.

I suspect that this 'defund' the AEA didn't come from the ether. It came from districts coming to the state saying they'd like other options when this sort of scenario comes up.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

The most damaging legislative session in the history of Iowa politics has finally ended.

Gonna be quite the challenge to surpass some of the horrible, mean spirited actions of this group.

Mississippi North strikes again.

Thought you meant that Biden and Trump were no longer presidential candidates........my bad.

 

[Gus is dead]

And no background check required for that teacher, just go to a class for approval.

WTF could go wrong?

Iowa school district teachers already get a background check. The fact you posted this nonsense without even checking on information you clearly assumed, disqualifies you from any further discussion.

Before entering into an initial contract with a teacher who holds a standard license through the Board of Educational Examiners (BOEE), districts must conduct a background check that includes:

• a review of an applicant’s state criminal history through the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation (DCI),
• a review of an applicant’s national criminal history through a fingerprint analysis conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI,)
• a review of sex offender registry information,
• a review of child abuse registry information, and
• a review of dependent adult abuse registry information

Edit: Sorry that this is duplicate information. I was so irritated by the deliberate malpractice or distortion of facts that I posted before going to the end of the thread.

 

[Gus is dead]

@MitchLL here's your link.

Background Checks - School Administrators of Iowa

www.sai-iowa.org

 

[Gus is dead]

Nothing I posted was wring or an exaggeration.

Wrong.

1. This law applies to teachers.
2. Teachers cant be teachers without a background check.
3. Only some teachers will apply for a firearms permit.

This is basic Kamala Harris Venn Diagram stuff dude.

Now the reality is that there are other reasons you are wrong but in regard to your out of your ass statement about 'not even having to have a background check' you look like a liar or at a bare minimum, incapable of actually considering looking into your assumptions before tossing them out there.

Now admit you were wrong and we can move on.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Clarification request for those of us not in Iowa. Are these:
- legal immigrants?
- Illegal trespassers?
- Illegal trespassers who have committed a crime?

Illegal trespassers who have committed a crime

 

[MitchLL]

Not that simple......As many already know, my wife is a teacher. She is very non-political. Has opinions but has no agenda. At all. Just goes in and does her job and comes home.

She and I were talking the other day and she started complaining about a consultant at work. A speech pathologist. The complaint was that the person hadnt been addressing well voiced concerns about a child's progress. My wife asked her (actually a they/them) to re-assess the child. The speech pathologist was shocked that the work she had been working with wasn't actually making any significant progress. Apparently, and I am no teacher, this oft requested re-assessment was late and now the child missed out on the chance to continue getting help over the summer. Something about a deadline. Educators on here can chime in.

My wife was furious. She'd been asking for 2 months to get the child looked at for this sort of help. And once the child got it, the realization that the child hadn't progressed, was a surprise to the pathologist. I asked my wife where the consultant came from. You guessed it. The AEA. I asked her if the school was happy with the services the AEA provided and she said more teachers than not admit that the service they get from the local AEA hasn't been good enough. Most were unhappy about the defunding discussion but admitted that they would love to have other options when the AEA is failing. As it has been locally.

I suspect that this 'defund' the AEA didn't come from the ether. It came from districts coming to the state saying they'd like other options when this sort of scenario comes up.

Well, your wife and her district will now be able to find another option to the AEA.

With inadequate funding from the State of Iowa, good luck finding the financial resources to hire the necessary specialists when public $$$ is going to private schools.

 

[Gus is dead]

Well, your wife and her district will now be able to find another option to the AEA.

With inadequate funding from the State of Iowa, good luck finding the financial resources to hire the necessary specialists when public $$$ is going to private schools.

Well then they can utilize the AEA. This law simply gives them options. It is not a defunding of the AEA. If they do a good job and provide quality service they have nothing to worry about. If they do a crap job, as this speech pathologist was doing, then yeah they probably should be updating their resume.

For some that arent inclined naturally to work hard, nothing inspires laziness and incompetence quite like a guaranteed government job.

And as a side note, there is zero chance Id offer a job to a they/them. Zero. Not because they wouldnt be capable of doing a good job, it would be because their entire presence on the job would be a distraction and a lawsuit waiting to happen. No thanks. Go work at a hair salon or bartend.

 

[lucas80]

Some of Iowa’s police chiefs are uncertain how our new “papers, please”, law will be enforced.

Inside Iowa Politics: Iowa police chief explains why departments will struggle with new deportation law

Iowa police chief said that law enforcement will struggle trying to carry out new deportation law.

www.kcrg.com

 

[MitchLL]

Well then they can utilize the AEA. This law simply gives them options. It is not a defunding of the AEA. If they do a good job and provide quality service they have nothing to worry about. If they do a crap job, as this speech pathologist was doing, then yeah they probably should be updating their resume.

For some that arent inclined naturally to work hard, nothing inspires laziness and incompetence quite like a guaranteed government job.

And as a side note, there is zero chance Id offer a job to a they/them. Zero. Not because they wouldnt be capable of doing a good job, it would be because their entire presence on the job would be a distraction and a lawsuit waiting to happen. No thanks. Go work at a hair salon orbartend.

You lost me with the comment "the AEA is not being defunded".
That is 100% false and consequently calls into question everything you said.

The DOE has mandated a 30%-50% budget reduction for AEAs. But the intent from Reynolds is clear...cut funding, eliminate staff which reduces services and you can claim they aren't needed or aren't doing their jobs.
Unless your wife teaches in the Des Moines area, the shit will hit the fan in 2-3 years as smaller districts can't compete for those specialists with the Waukees/Ankenys/Johnstons of the world.

 

[win1forthe]

Ha good joke.

The facts indicate this was the most successful legislative session in the history of Iowa. The citizens of Iowa are pleased with the ongoing efforts of our elected politicians to safeguard the financial health of our state.

The Honorable Governor Reynolds, her staff and vast majority of legislative members of the Iowa House and Senate should be given a big round of applause for a job well done.

Says the Russian troll

 

[MitchLL]

Says the Russian troll

Investment genius.

Don't forget investment genius.

 

[win1forthe]

Oh, don't worry, they'll try to top it next time

Perhaps they’ll try to take voting rights away from certain groups, that wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Well, your wife and her district will now be able to find another option to the AEA.

With inadequate funding from the State of Iowa, good luck finding the financial resources to hire the necessary specialists when public $$$ is going to private schools.

More lies!

The money is going to the families to find their children a better education.

 

[win1forthe]

Well then they can utilize the AEA. This law simply gives them options. It is not a defunding of the AEA. If they do a good job and provide quality service they have nothing to worry about. If they do a crap job, as this speech pathologist was doing, then yeah they probably should be updating their resume.

For some that arent inclined naturally to work hard, nothing inspires laziness and incompetence quite like a guaranteed government job.

And as a side note, there is zero chance Id offer a job to a they/them. Zero. Not because they wouldnt be capable of doing a good job, it would be because their entire presence on the job would be a distraction and a lawsuit waiting to happen. No thanks. Go work at a hair salon or bartend.

I work in education in Illinois. Here, there are not enough speech paths to fill all of the positions. In fact, the trend is for speech paths to work for an agency and not the district, they can make way more money which hurts the district’s budget..big time. Hearing what Iowa is going through, it’s going to be even more challenging to find quality speech paths and other related service providers moving forward. This will not be good financially for individual districts.

 

[fredjr82]

I don't disagree, I am just posting more information.

Between this thread and the jerk off therapy, you really are doing God's work. Blessed

 

[TylerJ23]

I read the story off the WOI website and their story says the bill doesn't require a background check to carry.
I'm merely asking you to prove they do.

And I did.

In the bill, it states they have to have a professional permit to carry.

If you did any research, you would see that one of the requirements to get that permit is a background check.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure all teachers are required to take a background check anyways, are they not??

You've been caught either making things up or just flat out lying in this thread.

Just take the L.

 

[thewop]

Bent out of shape is an understatement.

The education legislation alone gives a D- grade to this session.
Topping it off is the approval of a Dept of Education leader who's not even remotely qualified.
So, yeah, I'm disgusted.

Would you rather be proven right or wrong in the coming months and years?

 

[ButtersHawk]

"Facts, links, research, and differing but correct opinions = trash"

MitchLL.......... probably

 

[jonesy5960]

The bill does require annual background checks for teachers who are permitted to carry guns and mandates that they go through regular training on how to provide emergency medical care, how to communicate with law enforcement, and how to respond to a scene with an active shooter.

“This bill sets a very high standard,” Thompson said. “Because we're talking about the safety of our children, the bar must be high. We recognize that this responsibility must be taken very seriously. The strict training regimen outlined in this bill ensures that the employees who acquire this permit are equipped with the skills and the proficiency to act appropriately in the event of an emergency.”

Another section of the bill requires districts with more than 8,000 students to have at least one school resource officer or a private security officer guarding any building that enrolls high school students, although it includes a clause that allows school boards to opt-out of the requirement.

It also creates a grant program to help districts pay for security officers.

The bill passed on a vote of 61-34 with only GOP members of the House voting in favor.

The first time a 3rd grader grabs a teacher's gun out of their desk and shoots them and the other kids they have a beef with all we'll hear is that it wasn't the fault of the gun, or the gun manufacturer, or the legislative body that encouraged this situation. It was just a very sad and unfortunate accident which could not possibly have been foreseen by bringing a bunch of guns into buildings full of children.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The first time a 3rd grader grabs a teacher's gun out of their desk and shoots them and the other kids they have a beef with all we'll hear is that it wasn't the fault of the gun, or the gun manufacturer, or the legislative body that encouraged this situation. It was just a very sad and unfortunate accident which could not possibly have been foreseen by bringing a bunch of guns into buildings full of children.

Why would the gun be in a desk?

 

[Gus is dead]

I see @MitchLL has yet to admit he was wrong about the background check stuff. BAU. He's becoming the new Joes Place (who is on ignore FTR).

 

[Gus is dead]

I work in education in Illinois. Here, there are not enough speech paths to fill all of the positions. In fact, the trend is for speech paths to work for an agency and not the district, they can make way more money which hurts the district’s budget..big time. Hearing what Iowa is going through, it’s going to be even more challenging to find quality speech paths and other related service providers moving forward. This will not be good financially for individual districts.

Well that isnt the point of the bill. If the speech pathologists are few, they use the AEA. If they have options, and want to use those, they can.

Local small school districts will not move away from the AEA if they don't have options. Larger districts that have options may start to use them not the AEA. This might actually help the smaller districts paradoxically as the AEA support staff may end up moving from the areas with competition to areas that don't. I could see this enhancing the efficiency of the AEA. Sure, some current AEA employees may have to face hard choices. That's life. Working for the AEA was never supposed to be a guaranteed lifetime gig for these people. Perform or move on. Just like the private sector.

My wife tells me that in her district the AEA staff are lazy. To a man/women/NB. She also tells me the professional development people waste their time. They turn what should be a 30 min talk/take home packet into a 4 hour staff meeting. All to justify their funding in her opinion.

 

[MitchLL]

Well that isnt the point of the bill. If the speech pathologists are few, they use the AEA. If they have options, and want to use those, they can.

Local small school districts will not move away from the AEA if they don't have options. Larger districts that have options may start to use them not the AEA. This might actually help the smaller districts paradoxically as the AEA support staff may end up moving from the areas with competition to areas that don't. I could see this enhancing the efficiency of the AEA. Sure, some current AEA employees may have to face hard choices. That's life. Working for the AEA was never supposed to be a guaranteed lifetime gig for these people. Perform or move on. Just like the private sector.

My wife tells me that in her district the AEA staff are lazy. To a man/women/NB. She also tells me the professional development people waste their time. They turn what should be a 30 min talk/take home packet into a 4 hour staff meeting. All to justify their funding in her opinion.

Your true motives in this thread have been exposed.

And you're using these "supposed" comments from your "imaginary" wife to back up your argument.
You support the actions of the Governor to give guns to school staff and you lie about defunding of the AEA.
My guess is you're not even married.
Admit it.

 

[MitchLL]

Would you rather be proven right or wrong in the coming months and years?

Rather be proven wrong, but Reynold's track record is questionable, at best.

It's clear to me she couldn't govern without the super majority in the Iowa legislature she currently has.
She can't compromise.
Just look at how she had to "primary" the 8-10 Republican House members that voted against her first voucher attempt in 2021.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Rather be proven wrong, but Reynold's track record is questionable, at best.

It's clear to me she couldn't govern without the super majority in the Iowa legislature she currently has.
She can't compromise.
Just look at how she had to "primary" the 8-10 Republican House members that voted against her first voucher attempt in 2021.

She doesn't have to compromise.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Rather be proven wrong, but Reynold's track record is questionable, at best.

It's clear to me she couldn't govern without the super majority in the Iowa legislature she currently has.
She can't compromise.
Just look at how she had to "primary" the 8-10 Republican House members that voted against her first voucher attempt in 2021.

Why would anyone want to compromise on perfection in legislation?

 

[ZachJump]

Indeed they have. Back then I would vote for some Republicans. Now....not so much

Back then I would vote for some Democrats. Now....not so much

 

[joelbc1]

For those of us not in touch with Iowa politics, could you share some of the highlights?

The highlight has to be the taking of public tax money away from public schools and gifting it to parochial/private schools. Separation of “church and state” be damned…my voters send their kids to private schools!

 

[RicoSuave102954]

The highlight has to be the taking of public tax money away from public schools and gifting it to parochial/private schools. Separation of “church and state” be damned…my voters send their kids to private schools!

Tired old Dem response.

 

[joelbc1]

Tired old Dem response.

Yeah…those pesky principles our country was founded upon are so bullshit nowadays. After all, today we are MAGA!

 

[MitchLL]

Tired old Dem response.

You live in this State?

Cause your comments seem like you might be blind to what's happening here.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

You live in this State?

Cause your comments seem like you might be blind to what's happening here.

Iowa is considered to be one of the top states in America to live in.

Our Governor is considered to be one of if not the best governor in the nation, many believe she may run for President someday.

What's happening here in Iowa should be used as a model for all states to hope to achieve.

We have zero intent to become California East!!!!

 

[joelbc1]

Iowa is considered to be one of the top states in America to live in.

Our Governor is considered to be one of if not the best governor in the nation, many believe she may run for President someday.

What's happening here in Iowa should be used as a model for all states to hope to achieve.

We have zero intent to become California East!!!!

By whom? By what measures? People sure as hell aren’t flocking here to live. Young folks are leaving Iowa to seek their fortunes…other than “fluff news pieces” that expound the virtues of Iowa life…can you show me the numbers that give this statement any validity?

 

[MitchLL]

Iowa is considered to be one of the top states in America to live in.

Our Governor is considered to be one of if not the best governor in the nation, many believe she may run for President someday.

What's happening here in Iowa should be used as a model for all states to hope to achieve.

We have zero intent to become California East!!!!

California East???

Clever!

Have you ever had an original thought?