No. I want the victims to get more money than the lawyers. I'm surprised you don't too. But the Dems and lefties just love the class action slip and fall lawyers. I thought you were a little more progressive than this.
firefighters suing siren maker
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No. I want the victims to get more money than the lawyers. I'm surprised you don't too. But the Dems and lefties just love the class action slip and fall lawyers. I thought you were a little more progressive than this.
Did I not just say I was for a more direct regulatory solution? I suspect it's the cons who might object, not the libs. Even here, how do you propose shifting the funds from the people who brought the lawsuit often at their own risk to the plaintiffs many who don't even have to testify to get paid? Are you not calling for some regulations to accomplish this or are you just wishing into the wind?
If it is causing injuries of course you should. And when you do you will be a hero to all those future hockey fans you save.
No, you can't sue for that. It says right on the ticket that the ticket-holder assumes all risk of injury.
I think they are lying to you and hoping you won't challenge them in court. A real hero would push back against that assault on rights. Go sue them.
I wouldn't object to a regulatory solution to mass tort or product liability damages. It would warm my heart to rid the world of the class action vulture attorneys.
Be careful what you wish for. Getting rid of class actions mean we now have the need for more regulation and oversight to accomplish the same task the private sector does for us now. That's a very liberal path you are walking down, I'm proud of you.
Or we could get rid of both and let people be free from both instances of tyranny.
I keep telling you, deal in the real. Most people see the tyranny of problems as more concerning than the tyranny of addressing the problems. That's why they are called problems.
Having a few problems is preferable. It's people's asinine idea that all issues should be eradicated that is leading the world to voluntary slavery.
Tell any guy a problem. How does the conversation go? They start telling you how to solve it. Even if their plan is crap, they always have a plan. Tell any woman a problem. How does the conversation go? They start telling you about their own problem and break out the cheese cake. If you want problems to sit around unresolved, elect women.
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Can't argue with any of that although at 105 dB all you would need is an hour worth to hit the 90 TWA. He'll just at 110 dB you're already over if you go to like two or more calls in an 8hr shift.
Saving grace is that like 90% of fire departments are volunteer. I know in Iowa OSHA won't go after volunteer FD, after some bad publicity dealing with citing a volunteer department after two members died while responding to a tank that was on fire and ended up exploding in Truesdale sometime in the 90's.
A little bit of clarification. There is no way the noise level of a siren inside of a truck is 105 decibels. The scale I found is that is a car horn standing in front of the car. Inside a trick, a siren isn't as loud as a conversation with your partner, at least in trucks made in the last 20 years. Our radio is typically much louder. Sirens are mounted on the grill or bumper so the sound is directed down and forward. In the old days, 30 years ago, the sirens were mounted on the roof and were much louder.
I can't believe this fire fighter can prove that his tinnitus is relatable to sirens. When I'm in the back of an ambulance I can barely hear the siren at all.
I can't believe this fire fighter can prove that his tinnitus is relatable to sirens. When I'm in the back of an ambulance I can barely hear the siren at all.
Not on any trucks made in the last couple of decades. There are a few out there but not many. Guessing on the number of years but at least 20.
Define open seating.
I have read on here that a siren is 130db. I can't imagine it's over 90db in the cabin.
I figured I'd highlight (one of) your misconceptions: it appears that these firemen did not know of the long-term repercussions...which is usually the case. In fact, in many instances the owners/people in charge affirmatively know about the dangers yet do nothing about it, never tell the employees.
Look at coal mining, they weren't required to take those jobs, right? Black lung be damned. That $30,000/year they made was worth it.
Agree.
But, he didn't work for the siren company. He worked for the city who purchased and utilized the siren.
Sue your employer.
