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Firing of Coaches would put Iowa in a tough spot

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First, I don't want KF fired.. I think he's doing just fine! Also, I wanted him fired the year prior to 12-0.. anybody who thinks "Iowa can go get..." so and so. Those days have sailed due to the massive amount of turnover! This year alone these teams would be ahead of us in the pecking order. This would leave Iowa with a decent MAC coach or a coordinator who has never been a head man..

Texas AM
UCLA
Ole Miss
LSU
Tennessee
Nebraska (not better as a program but would probably get Frost)

So if those were all taken up first I guess I'm curious who you think Iowa would bring in that's better?
 
Suterman said:
The coaches aren't going to get fired and they shouldn't. If we lose to Illinois perhaps some flogging is in order but no firings.
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I realize that! This is for the dozens of posters who think it should
 
There is no way In Hades that coaches are getting fired. Nothing short of a huge cheating scandal would get coaches fired.
 
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Part of KF's master plan was to have a coaching tree so bare that if he were fired BF would be likely the only candidate for the job. BRILLIANT!
 
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I don't think Kirk should be fired. I did think that several years ago.

However, I do think that after a year or two off, Bobby Stoops would definitely come back and retire at Iowa.
 
Suterman said:
The coaches aren't going to get fired and they shouldn't. If we lose to Illinois perhaps some flogging is in order but no firings.
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Ya know, despite the mess we seem to have at this point, I didn't even CONSIDER a potential loss to Illinois. That would undoubtedly be the absolute worst loss I would have had to endure in the Fry/Ferentz era, in terms of losing to a team so bad that you just didn't think your team could possibly be that incompetent. The Michigan directional school losses, Northwestern '06 and Iowa St & Minnesota '98 wouldn't touch it. Holy cow, this could be serious.
 
I don't think any rational person is wanting/thinking the coaches be fired. We lost 2 crossover games by 9 points and have a young qb and seem to want to interject youth in the offense. I will say that if this time period has been an audition for BF to take over he certainly hasn't locked it up yet. That being said he is 4 games in, you gotta give him a chance to show.
 
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Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll said:
I don't think any rational person is wanting/thinking the coaches be fired. We lost 2 crossover games by 9 points and have a young qb and seem to want to interject youth in the offense. I will say that if this time period has been an audition for BF to take over he certainly hasn't locked it up yet. That being said he is 4 games in, you gotta give him a chance to show.
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How much time does he need? My God u people with your just give him time nonsense
 
The person I am saying needs time to show a body if work is Brian, the guy has been in his new position 6 months. Believe me I too wanted KF gone prior to '15. Asking for a coaches head when we have lost 2 games, one of which was against a very good team, is hot headed. Idk about you guys but I didn't see 15-0 this year so where we are at so far isn't overly surprising. I would have been more upset if we lost to ISU or Wyoming. Right now when we get to bowl season neither of our losses will be viewed as "bad".
 
SotaHawk87 said:
First, I don't want KF fired.. I think he's doing just fine! Also, I wanted him fired the year prior to 12-0.. anybody who thinks "Iowa can go get..." so and so. Those days have sailed due to the massive amount of turnover! This year alone these teams would be ahead of us in the pecking order. This would leave Iowa with a decent MAC coach or a coordinator who has never been a head man..

Texas AM
UCLA
Ole Miss
LSU
Tennessee
Nebraska (not better as a program but would probably get Frost)

So if those were all taken up first I guess I'm curious who you think Iowa would bring in that's better?
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Iowa is a better program than TAMU, Tennessee, Ole Miss and Nebraska right now. And, you could argue, on the same page as LSU.
 
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See Nebraska. That should end any thought of a coaching change currently.
 
IMO it is not the right time for a staff change, even at the end of the season. That being said, BF is leaving alot to be disired on his resume to take over HC at this time and people are WAY to scared od change. Believe it or not when the dust settles on KF's tenure blowing it up and starting over might not be a bad idea. There is a reason organizations change CEO's and a couple of decades of the same regime might need a total rebuild.
 
Perhaps big name programs don't attract like they think they should. What coach would want the lack of stability and over rated expectations?
 
ChrisVarick said:
Part of KF's master plan was to have a coaching tree so bare that if he were fired BF would be likely the only candidate for the job. BRILLIANT!
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I imagine this is in jest, but that theory isn't sensible. The only chance, and I think it's a slim one in the best of circumstances, for Brian to take over would be if Kirk went out a resounding success.
 
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Yeah from an employee prospective I wouldn't touch Nebraska with a 10 foot pole. That being said we are on the opposite side of the spectrum. We can offer top notch facilities, with access to close decent recruiting hotbeds. (Chi, St. Louis, twin cities) a history of "career" coaches that will have time, unlike nebby, to implement their system with realistic expectations.
 
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SotaHawk87 said:
First, I don't want KF fired.. I think he's doing just fine! Also, I wanted him fired the year prior to 12-0.. anybody who thinks "Iowa can go get..." so and so. Those days have sailed due to the massive amount of turnover! This year alone these teams would be ahead of us in the pecking order. This would leave Iowa with a decent MAC coach or a coordinator who has never been a head man..

Texas AM
UCLA
Ole Miss
LSU
Tennessee
Nebraska (not better as a program but would probably get Frost)

So if those were all taken up first I guess I'm curious who you think Iowa would bring in that's better?
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I don't like calling people names, but you are the one exception. Can you lock up your keyboard and never post again, please.
  • First, it is only 5 games in
  • We have a fairly young team
  • We have turned seasons around before
  • We have a first year starter at QB
  • We have a first year OC
  • We have one loss that no one is ashamed of
  • One loss out of 5 that we thought we could have won...but many predicted we would lose one of our first 3 games.
  • But most importantly, we have high school recruits coming on this board to see what people are saying. We don't need a bunch of idiots talking about firing the coaches because of one bad loss. We are not Nebraska!, so stop it. These are young men that make mistakes, just like everyone on this board probably has over the years. So OP, please stop your hate ridiculed posts, only to say you want us to do well(which I am not buying). If you feel compelled to start a post, why don't you start a post about the cheer leaders or the water tower. You definitely don't know Iowa football!
 
First of all I understand Iowa will not fire Ferentz.

Lets venture into the realm of magical alternatives forest as you have in this thread. Where does Iowa stand in comparison to these high profile jobs? Can you recruit at Iowa? How are the facilities and fan support? Job security? Program prestige and access to titles? Lastly pay?

To these questions you would conceivably group the first question with location and coach ability. Middle of the pack in the BIG. Second question I would say top notch. Third question and last question ... Forever and top notch. Fourth I would say decent, you win the west and win the BIG you will always be in the conversation. You just have to beat Wisconsin and one of the three powers from the east to get there. Sometimes more than one or two.
 
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Ya know, despite the mess we seem to have at this point, I didn't even CONSIDER a potential loss to Illinois. That would undoubtedly be the absolute worst loss I would have had to endure in the Fry/Ferentz era, in terms of losing to a team so bad that you just didn't think your team could possibly be that incompetent. The Michigan directional school losses, Northwestern '06 and Iowa St & Minnesota '98 wouldn't touch it. Holy cow, this could be serious.
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I think the worst loss was Central Michigan, although the loss to Western Michigan might actually be the worst. Hawks choked away the Central Michigan game....Western Michigan dominated us....in Kinnick....on Senior Day...with a bowl bid on the line.
 
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HoustonHawkeye said:
I don't like calling people names, but you are the one exception. Can you lock up your keyboard and never post again, please.
  • First, it is only 5 games in
  • We have a fairly young team
  • We have turned seasons around before
  • We have a first year starter at QB
  • We have a first year OC
  • We have one loss that no one is ashamed of
  • One loss out of 5 that we thought we could have won...but many predicted we would lose one of our first 3 games.
  • But most importantly, we have high school recruits coming on this board to see what people are saying. We don't need a bunch of idiots talking about firing the coaches because of one bad loss. We are not Nebraska!, so stop it. These are young men that make mistakes, just like everyone on this board probably has over the years. So OP, please stop your hate ridiculed posts, only to say you want us to do well(which I am not buying). If you feel compelled to start a post, why don't you start a post about the cheer leaders or the water tower. You definitely don't know Iowa football!
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I don't think you read my post! I'm all for KF and was saying anyone who thought we could and should go get a big name is off their rocker
 
83Hawk said:
I think the worst loss was Central Michigan, although the loss to Western Michigan might actually be the worst. Hawks choked away the Central Michigan game....Western Michigan dominated us....in Kinnick....on Senior Day...with a bowl bid on the line.
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Central Michigan was far and away the worst loss I've ever witnessed. Saw that one up close and personal. Greg Castillo. Western Michigan was bad, but that CM game was straight up embarrassing. The feeling after the CM loss was the worst I've ever had outside of the Northwestern State NCAA BB game. I broke shit in the middle of S. Van Buren street after that one. Sorry.

UNI would have been a really bad loss too if we didn't block two kicks in a row to win. We can't ever lose to UNI like ISU does on occasion. No excuse for it.
 
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SotaHawk87 said:
I don't think you read my post! I'm all for KF and was saying anyone who thought we could and should go get a big name is off their rocker
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You obviously didn't get my point. I am tired of people starting threads, talking about coaching changes. Just sick and tired, especially after 19 years. We have seen multiple times where he has brought the team around. Then look at Illinois and Nebraska. Time to quit starting new threads on coaching.
 
Western mich before fleck? Nw before Barnett? Florida before spurrier? FSU before Bowden? KSU before Snyder? Believe it or not if the athletic department is competent enough to hold the position they should be able to make a hire to improve or hold serve with the current regime. If they cannot be trusted to do this, they shouldn't be there. Again, no one is going anywhere.
 
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HoustonHawkeye said:
You obviously didn't get my point. I am tired of people starting threads, talking about coaching changes. Just sick and tired, especially after 19 years. We have seen multiple times where he has brought the team around. Then look at Illinois and Nebraska. Time to quit starting new threads on coaching.
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Lol it's a message board bud relax!!
 
It's hard to get excited about a thread that has a 99.9999999999999999999999999994 chance of not coming into play. Besides, it isn't like this thread hasn't been touched on multiple times each year. Well, it this is what the forum is coming to tonight, think I'll go back to watching South Park
 
This thread is hilarious. Completely goes off the rails from the jump.

I disagree with the premise of your actual post. I think/hope the guy that is targeted would be turned off by programs like A&M or Ole Miss. They might have better success recruiting, but the donors, administration and media are much easier to deal with in Iowa City.
 
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