Nice - thanks!So here’s my list of saltwater Florida fish that you can catch yourself or get at restaurants and to make it easy I’m breaking it up by flavor and texture profiles. Within each category only an expert can tell them apart without without seeing the fish whole and intact, once cooked you’re not going to know the difference between a gag or a hind grouper or a mutton or a red snapper which are closely related and you’re probably not going to tell the difference between completely unrelated fish like a striped bass, black grouper or snook once they’re cooked. I’ll put an x next to fish you PROBABLY won’t get in restaurants and would likely have to catch yourself and a xxx next to those that are completely illegal for commercial harvest but which taste great when caught recreationally.
Mild White Flesh with Firm “Porky” Texture, less like fish and more like a pork sirloin that’s slightly softer
Swordfish
Cobia
Wahoo
Marlin (White and Blue) xxx
Sailfish xxx
Spearfish xxx
Mako Shark x
Blacktip Shark x
Mild White Fish with Big Meaty Flakes like Cod
Grouper (various species including gag, scamp, rock hind, red hind, “regular” red, coney, black, snowy, marbled, strawberry, etc)
Striped Bass
Black Seabass x
Snook xxx
MahiMahi/Dolphin
Tripletail x
Mild White Fish with medium sized flakes like walleye or speckled perch
Snapper (various species including red, gray/mangrove, vermillion/“Beeliner”, mutton, queen, lane, cubera, yellowtail)
grunts (various species including white, key west, blue striped, French etc…) x
porgies (various species including jolthead, knobbed, littlehead, grass) x
Redfish/red drum
black drum x
lionfish
hogfish/hog snapper
spadefish x
yellow jack x
almaco jack x
croaker x
Mild White Fish with finegrain flakes but mostly firm texture
Flounder (Southern, Summer,
Fluke
Skate/stingray x
pompano
permit x
triggerfish (gray and queen)
monkfish
filefish xxx
Mild White Fish with a mushy texture like tilapia
Seatrout/”Trout” (Various Species including Speckled/Spotted/”Gator”, Sand, Silver, White)
Whiting
ladyfish x
Oily White Fish which need to be immediately fried or baked in person or else commercially only available smoked
Mullet
Kingfish/King Mackerel x
Spanish Mackerel x
Amberjack
Crevalle Jack x
Red fleshed fish best for sushi, ceviche or other raw prep
Bonito x
Blackfin tuna x
Yellowfin Tuna
Bluefin Tuna
Bigeye Tuna x
You ranked redfish below grunts????
The best fish dinner I've ever had was fried redfish that was swimming earlier in the day.
We go to Crabbys on the Pass near our place on Treasure Island. Nothing spectacular but it's on the water across from Madeira Beach. We've never eaten a meal there but for just sitting by the water and watching dolphins and grabbing drinks and snacking on appetizers it's the superior option compared to the many tourist traps on the Johns Pass side. Don't get me wrong we spend a lot of time in Johns Pass, but there's no need to wait and pay a premium for the generic overpriced restaurants in there.I think we saw that all those Frenchy’s Crabby's places are related restaurants, and found that they were all basically interchangeable. Pretty good, but nothing mind blowing.
We have been to Clearwater Beach around 10X. Always eat one meal at Frenchy's Rockaway. Sits right on the beach. Like the atmosphere. We have ate at several different places in area.We will be on vacation and dressed like it, so we want to keep it casual. Most interested in restaurants with fresh seafood. Preferably within walking distance of the Hilton Clearwater Beach Resort. Although, isn't there some kind of trolly? We could drive as well, although I would prefer not to. Thoughts?
That‘s not a ranking order that’s a general taste and texture order. No one other than a real expert is telling the difference between a cooked yellowfin flounder filet and a key west grunt once they’ve been fried. Any flavor difference is going to be more about how they’ve been handled and which one sat on the boat deck longest than what species it was when they’re within the categories.
As far as what fish I love the most it depends on what is being prepared. For baked and grilled dishes I absolutely love Pompano and its bigger cousin permit, but spadefish and lionfish work great as well. For standard southern fried in flour and corn starch fillets the best are either smaller snapper like yellowtail or beeliners or flounder. For fried fish sandwiches where you want a bigger and meatier chunk fried I prefer wahoo, Cobia or grouper. For English style fish and chips I prefer any shark that’s first been soaked in a half beer half milk solution or grouper. Grunts may Be the very best fish For Japanese tempura batter. For Mississippi style cornmeal batter, our saltwater gafftopsail is as good or better than farmed channel cats or wild flathead cats as the best fish for that prep. For ceviche, sushi, poke and other raw preps nothing beats a Florida bluefin, yellowfin or blackfin tuna than the best sockeye salmon at peak fattiness before their river runs. And for smoked fish I’m actually partial to Spanish and king mackerel over Amberjack, Cobia and mullet.
When my boys were adolescents, we went on a "guys only" trip to the Keys and went on a fishing charter. Got skunked except for grunts and a barracuda (my oldest son won the pool for "biggest fish" by catching that stupid thing). No option to cook the grunts at the hotel except for a grill. They were good, but I lost a few filets through the grates.
Wow, I am impressed with your list. A lot of good information on it.So here’s my list of saltwater Florida fish that you can catch yourself or get at restaurants and to make it easy I’m breaking it up by flavor and texture profiles. Within each category only an expert can tell them apart without without seeing the fish whole and intact, once cooked you’re not going to know the difference between a gag or a hind grouper or a mutton or a red snapper which are closely related and you’re probably not going to tell the difference between completely unrelated fish like a striped bass, black grouper or snook once they’re cooked. I’ll put an x next to fish you PROBABLY won’t get in restaurants and would likely have to catch yourself and a xxx next to those that are completely illegal for commercial harvest but which taste great when caught recreationally.
Mild White Flesh with Firm “Porky” Texture, less like fish and more like a pork sirloin that’s slightly softer
Swordfish
Cobia
Wahoo
Marlin (White and Blue) xxx
Sailfish xxx
Spearfish xxx
Mako Shark x
Blacktip Shark x
Mild White Fish with Big Meaty Flakes like Cod
Grouper (various species including gag, scamp, rock hind, red hind, “regular” red, coney, black, snowy, marbled, strawberry, etc)
Striped Bass
Black Seabass x
Snook xxx
MahiMahi/Dolphin
Tripletail x
Mild White Fish with medium sized flakes like walleye or speckled perch
Snapper (various species including red, gray/mangrove, vermillion/“Beeliner”, mutton, queen, lane, cubera, yellowtail)
grunts (various species including white, key west, blue striped, French etc…) x
porgies (various species including jolthead, knobbed, littlehead, grass) x
Redfish/red drum
black drum x
lionfish
hogfish/hog snapper
spadefish x
yellow jack x
almaco jack x
croaker x
Mild White Fish with finegrain flakes but mostly firm texture
Flounder (Southern, Summer,
Fluke
Skate/stingray x
pompano
permit x
triggerfish (gray and queen)
monkfish
filefish xxx
Mild White Fish with a mushy texture like tilapia
Seatrout/”Trout” (Various Species including Speckled/Spotted/”Gator”, Sand, Silver, White)
Whiting
ladyfish xxx
Oily White Fish which need to be immediately fried or baked in person or else commercially only available smoked
Mullet
Kingfish/King Mackerel x
Spanish Mackerel x
Amberjack
Crevalle Jack x
Red fleshed fish best for sushi, ceviche or other raw prep
Bonito x
Blackfin tuna x
Yellowfin Tuna
Bluefin Tuna
Bigeye Tuna x
Skipjack Tuna x
When my boys were adolescents, we went on a "guys only" trip to the Keys and went on a fishing charter. Got skunked except for grunts and a barracuda (my oldest son won the pool for "biggest fish" by catching that stupid thing). No option to cook the grunts at the hotel except for a grill. They were good, but I lost a few filets through the grates.
I've eaten barracuda more than a few times when I was younger. We'd keep the small ones. They're good eating.
some stuff-We will be on vacation and dressed like it, so we want to keep it casual. Most interested in restaurants with fresh seafood. Preferably within walking distance of the Hilton Clearwater Beach Resort. Although, isn't there some kind of trolly? We could drive as well, although I would prefer not to. Thoughts?
Is that the one owned by Mike Alscott just across the bridge? If so we really liked it.Very surprised to see no mention of Island Way Grill.
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Also, it doesn’t look like much but I was pleasantly surprised by the pizza from King’s Pizza on Coronado Dr.
I had no idea Alstott owned it! But yeah, that’s the one, I’ve been there three times and each visit was damn good.Is that the one owned by Mike Alscott just across the bridge? If so we really liked it.
Very good. One of my favorites, but I kinda forgot about it because we havent went the last two times in CWB. Good rec!I had no idea Alstott owned it! But yeah, that’s the one, I’ve been there three times and each visit was damn good.
Love itsome stuff-
1. Free Beach Ride phone number is 727-776-7553. They will take you from CWB down to StPB for a free will donation. This is a legit no BS number that you can (and will) check out when you get to CWB.
2. Frenchy's is garbage.
3. BLACKENED grouper.
4. Fresh fish can be purchased at John's Pass, and can be cooked to your preference at most restaurant's.
5. Our fav place to eat is Rum Fish Grill in StPB. Stop at Beachcomber and hit the sports bar for cheap drinks and tabasco flavored popcorn at happy hour. Also bands on the beach deck from 3 to 9.
Is that the one owned by Mike Alscott just across the bridge? If so we really liked it.
I’d probably pass on that one, too. 🤪This one was around six feet long.
1.5 days in and this place is my jam, I have to say. Beautiful beaches. Beaches themselves aren’t too crowded but it is very busy around our hotel on the main drag. Beaches have a nice mix of people of all ages, races, and nationalities - not all old people. Food has been pretty good when I followed my heart, and there is live entertainment in the bar across the street from the hotel. This place is awesome, imho.It's a tourist trap is all. I'm only half joking that it's the worst, but for a family vacation it'll be a good time. Next time hit me up before you book on the beach as I have tons of recommendations in this area.
I’m going to get booed off the stage, but I’ve had grouper twice now. The first time it was blackened. It was okay. Second time I had it fried. It was also okay. My son had a burger and I snuck a bite and wished I had ordered it both times. Guess I’m a midwestern boy at heart…some stuff-
1. Free Beach Ride phone number is 727-776-7553. They will take you from CWB down to StPB for a free will donation. This is a legit no BS number that you can (and will) check out when you get to CWB.
2. Frenchy's is garbage.
3. BLACKENED grouper.
4. Fresh fish can be purchased at John's Pass, and can be cooked to your preference at most restaurant's.
5. Our fav place to eat is Rum Fish Grill in StPB. Stop at Beachcomber and hit the sports bar for cheap drinks and tabasco flavored popcorn at happy hour. Also bands on the beach deck from 3 to 9.
I’m going to get booed off the stage, but I’ve had grouper twice now. The first time it was blackened. It was okay. Second time I had it fried. It was also okay. My son had a burger and I snuck a bite and wished I had ordered it both times. Guess I’m a midwestern boy at heart…
Same one across the street, surf side tap house. I asked if it was fresh and they said it was. Was I led astray?At what restaurants?
Probably fresh frozen, or a novice chef. To each his own, I love blackened grouper.Same one across the street, surf side tap house. I asked if it was fresh and they said it was. Was I led astray?
Here is the menu to Rumfish in StPBSame one across the street, surf side tap house. I asked if it was fresh and they said it was. Was I led astray?
I’m going to get booed off the stage, but I’ve had grouper twice now. The first time it was blackened. It was okay. Second time I had it fried. It was also okay. My son had a burger and I snuck a bite and wished I had ordered it both times. Guess I’m a midwestern boy at heart…
It’s really good, but I grew up eating what I caught. At restaurants I’m a cheapskate, so sitting on the water eating a $12.95 grouper sandwich with fries and hush puppies and a cold beer is heaven. Eating a small $32 piece of grouper on a plate with rice and asparagus…not so much.I’m going to get booed off the stage, but I’ve had grouper twice now. The first time it was blackened. It was okay. Second time I had it fried. It was also okay. My son had a burger and I snuck a bite and wished I had ordered it both times. Guess I’m a midwestern boy at heart…
We don't go out for pizza much around here but I may have to try some of the places he was at. The pics look pretty good and many are close the Casa de DQ.
I love the obnox Surf Style gear. Best jingle ever!Dave Portnoy visited a bunch of Pinellas County pizzerias yesterday. Toby’s Little Italy and Madison Avenue Pizza are the ones I have seen so far.
Santoros near University of Tampa. He also went to Lee’s Grocery which is on the other side of the projects from me. Lee’s Grocery has terrible pizza.
So what's your pick as the best pizza in the Tampa area?